ScoobyNet.com - Subaru Enthusiast Forum

ScoobyNet.com - Subaru Enthusiast Forum (https://www.scoobynet.com/)
-   ScoobyNet General (https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-general-1/)
-   -   Pedders sportsryder suspension kit (https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-general-1/1065519-pedders-sportsryder-suspension-kit.html)

evil.soup 20 October 2021 04:53 PM

Pedders sportsryder suspension kit
 
Hi all, I know this is just the general chat and someone may move it to the technical section, hopefully not, but I am after real world experience of the below and not everyone will be in the technical section who may have these on their car.

I have the usual shock knock and my car is on lowered Eibach progressive springs, I am happy with the current ride height, feel etc. I have owned the car for almost 16 years, 2006 Hawkeye WRX, and replaced the suspension in the past with standard replacement KYB units. I was going to replace once again with the standard KYB set up as I am happy with the feel, but I have been doing a little research and come across the below.

https://pedders.co.uk/pedders-ezifit...and-sti-803035

So the main questions are:

Does anyone have this set up?
Does it feel near standard?
What ride height have you got? (Photos would be great, who needs an excuse!)
Is it a harsh ride?
Are there any other suggestions?

I have done coilovers before by the way and it was hateful, so no need to recommend those thanks.

Thanks in advance.

Ian

Vxr2010 21 October 2021 08:52 AM

Hi ,
give pedders a call they can advise you , they are very helpful , it will be more or less to what was fitted on the car as standard in the first place , i have the pedders xa set up on my monaro they work very well , the kit you are talking about is not height or re bound adjustable , just because you have coilovers fitted does not mean they have to be a harsh ride , i have some BC on the mrs Fsti , the height is a bit lower than standard so it looks better , re bound is set to one click off the softest setting , it does handle well , my other cars are a firmer set up , the pedders xa kit i have transformed the car , it’s been on the car for a good number of years , the only mild issue is some paint has flaked off the springs but that’s not unusual as same with my tein and bc set up , not putting pedders done tein do a non rebound height adjustable set up , they also work well 👍

stockcar 21 October 2021 09:01 AM

have supplied and fitted various Pedders kits over the years and generally had very good results........

evil.soup 21 October 2021 09:53 AM

Thanks for the replies so far, very useful information, I will give them a call.

VXR, as for the coilovers, I had BC's on the WRX for about 6 months and had to take them off. I opted for the softer spring rate and adjusted them to their softest settings, in fact, I tried all bloody set ups, I even had the ride height set to it's maximum to allow more travel, but over even cats eyes it was like being kicked in the kidneys!

Don't get me wrong, on the right smooth road they were almost perfect, I particularly miss them on motorway runs as the car felt smooth as silk at speed, but on our usual B roads, they could feel dangerous at times and the car felt a little skippy over bumps etc. I am sure there are coilover set ups that can work very well on our roads, but I don't have the budget for a set like that.


2pot 21 October 2021 10:39 AM

Did your car originally come with inverted struts?
Did you replace with Subaru/KYb Ultra SR inverted struts? Or, did you replace with KYB AGX/Ultra SR/Excel-g non-inverted?

TECHNOPUG 21 October 2021 12:07 PM

KYB Excel Gs with Prodrive Blue springs. They do lower the car a fair bit but handling is greatly improved with little compromise in comfort.

Or a slightly stiffer shock (Koni etc) if you want a bit more fast road focus whilst sacrificing a little comfort.

evil.soup 21 October 2021 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by 2pot (Post 12112057)
Did your car originally come with inverted struts?
Did you replace with Subaru/KYb Ultra SR inverted struts? Or, did you replace with KYB AGX/Ultra SR/Excel-g non-inverted?

I went with the standard replacement KYB Excel-G struts. To be fair, it was only the fronts that have been replaced but the rears are now knocking but only after almost 100,000 miles, so for a Subaru, that is good going. The fronts are still sound, but if there is a full replacement kit that can work like the standard set up while being lower, then it may be a better long term option.

evil.soup 21 October 2021 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by TECHNOPUG (Post 12112061)
KYB Excel Gs with Prodrive Blue springs. They do lower the car a fair bit but handling is greatly improved with little compromise in comfort.

Or a slightly stiffer shock (Koni etc) if you want a bit more fast road focus whilst sacrificing a little comfort.

Yeah KYB Excel-G was my original thinking until I saw the Pedders.
What drop do the Prodrive springs give? I already have Eibach lowered springs so I can't imagine there would be a big difference?

TECHNOPUG 21 October 2021 12:21 PM

https://www.pcadynamics.com/products/subaru/

evil.soup 21 October 2021 01:10 PM

Cheers mate, I would imagine these are the same as the progressive Eibach ones I already have then, just mine are black.

TECHNOPUG 21 October 2021 01:42 PM

I don't think that they are the same.

2pot 21 October 2021 02:34 PM

Check the current spring rates on the Pedders wrx, were: 156/127lb/in
Eibach wrx were 171/188lb/in

evil.soup 21 October 2021 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by 2pot (Post 12112081)
Check the current spring rates on the Pedders wrx, were: 156/127lb/in
Eibach wrx were 171/188lb/in

Ok thanks for that, so there will be a significant difference in feel then given the difference between them?

RichDobie 29 October 2021 09:06 PM

I’m planning on fitting the Pedders Ezifit front struts to my 05’ STI this weekend if I get chance. I’ll let you know how I get on if I get around to it.

evil.soup 30 October 2021 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by RichDobie (Post 12112473)
I’m planning on fitting the Pedders Ezifit front struts to my 05’ STI this weekend if I get chance. I’ll let you know how I get on if I get around to it.

Ah fantastic will be interesting to find out, cheers👍

RichDobie 06 November 2021 11:34 PM


Originally Posted by evil.soup (Post 12112478)
Ah fantastic will be interesting to find out, cheers👍

I got the old struts out today but didn’t fit the new struts because they look too long compared with the old struts. Going to give Pedders a call on Monday to confirm whether they are the correct ones for my 05’ STI widetrack 114. The ref. no. for the new one is 909990R (for the right one) - Scoobyworx has it as the correct one but Pedders has a different ref. no.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...f5e673e16.jpeg

evil.soup 07 November 2021 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by RichDobie (Post 12112765)
I got the old struts out today but didn’t fit the new struts because they look too long compared with the old struts. Going to give Pedders a call on Monday to confirm whether they are the correct ones for my 05’ STI widetrack 114. The ref. no. for the new one is 909990R (for the right one) - Scoobyworx has it as the correct one but Pedders has a different ref. no.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...f5e673e16.jpeg

That's a significant difference, doesn't look right at all! Thanks for the post, very interested to see the ride height difference from your current set up.

2pot 07 November 2021 12:48 AM

Your oem '05 sti struts are inverted - chrome rod 39mm diameter
Pedders replacement struts are non-inverted - chromed rod 22mm diameter
Non-inverted struts are longer.
However, you appear to have Pedders wrx/non-widetrack sti struts (100mm pcd), not Pedders '05-'07 sti widetrack struts (114.3mm pcd).
The lower mounting holes on a front sti widetrack strut are further apart, compared to a wrx strut. Measure the hole centre distances, compared to your old struts. The distance in-between the two mounting brackets is also wider on an sti widetrack strut.

RichDobie 07 November 2021 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by 2pot (Post 12112768)
Your oem '05 sti struts are inverted - chrome rod 39mm diameter
Pedders replacement struts are non-inverted - chromed rod 22mm diameter
Non-inverted struts are longer.
However, you appear to have Pedders wrx/non-widetrack sti struts (100mm pcd), not Pedders '05-'07 sti widetrack struts (114.3mm pcd).
The lower mounting holes on a front sti widetrack strut are further apart, compared to a wrx strut. Measure the hole centre distances, compared to your old struts. The distance in-between the two mounting brackets is also wider on an sti widetrack strut.

Thanks 2pot - spot on. Just measured the lower mounting holes and on the old strut they are c.75mm apart and on the new struts they’re 65mm. The wrong struts!!! Argh!!!!


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:54 AM.


© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands