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UK General Election 2019
Just thought the Brexit/Remain thread was getting entwined with discussions for the GE
So I thought I would start another just for the election news |
I live in a Conservative safe seat (David Davis), who appears to do f'all for the area compared to Andrew Percy south of the River who engages with people on a near daily basis. It's about time he went out to pasture and some new young blood was brought in who actually gives a toss.So at the moment I'm on don't know/not voting.
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Added spoilt ballot if you don’t mind: Its counted and means more than not voting.
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Good idea.
My Mrs helps with the count for elections and every time they get one spoilt ballot paper where the person writes war and peace as to why they are not voting for any of the above. Same hand writing, so it must be the same person. Nothing abusive or nasty but its funny that they use their time to make such a protest which ultimately goes in the bin. |
Its amazing how many people put a tick in the box instead of a 'X'
Or strike through the ones they don't want to vote for |
Unfortunately I have to pick not voting, not because I don't want to vote, but because as an ex pat of more than 15 years, I'm denied a vote even though the Tories promised to reinstate ex pat votes!
If I was voting, it wouldn't be for the Tories, even though they are historically who I used to support. This time I would probably vote tactically in a bid to ensure the Tories lose! Regardless of Brexit, the Tories have fecked up the country for long enough! |
Polls are not looking good for labour. Wouldn't surprise me if cons get a bigger majority this time round.
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
(Post 12065753)
Polls are not looking good for labour. Wouldn't surprise me if cons get a bigger majority this time round.
Gina Miller is deluded in thinking Lib dems will get any further than the last time they showed any promise (based on promises they broke ;) ). Brexit party...as always FPTP will ensure even if they get more overall votes than Lib-Dem, they’ll probably manage one or two seats. |
Originally Posted by ALi-B
(Post 12065799)
Hard to guess, I reckon it’ll be pretty close, but with a very low turnout. So the die hard ‘I vote xxx because I always have’ bunch will ensure it’s as always, a two horse race.
Gina Miller is deluded in thinking Lib dems will get any further than the last time they showed any promise (based on promises they broke ;) ). Brexit party...as always FPTP will ensure even if they get more overall votes than Lib-Dem, they’ll probably manage one or two seats. |
Originally Posted by Tidgy
(Post 12065822)
tbh i think lib dems will do ok, their strong stance on brexit, or canceling it, will pull votes away from the others, expecialy labour and there wishy washy indecsion.
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Originally Posted by Sad Weevil
(Post 12065829)
Lib Dems have withdrawn from my constituency under an agreement with the Greens, who poll well here. Our sitting Labour MP has a 36,000 majority (She's a remainer, which is just as well since the constituency was 80% remain in the referendum). Conservatives are nowhere, so it's between Labour and the Green party.
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Anyone who votes Lib-Lab-Con after the last 3 years deserves to lose their right to vote... to put it politely!
Wake up people :wall: |
Tory stronghold for me, but they were decimated in the local elections by the Lib Dem’s who now have a majority...will be interesting to see how that swing relates to the GE results.
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Brexit party and Tories join in common aim.
At last, Common sense prevails |
Originally Posted by andy97
(Post 12065887)
Brexit party and Tories join in common aim.
At last, Common sense prevails |
Originally Posted by BMWhere?
(Post 12065890)
Sounds like the Tories and Farage are running scared they are going to lose! Wonder what promises Boris had to make to get Farage to stand down?
Polls are showing tories ahead on their own, let alone wit brexit party helping out. so i dont think its anything to do with loosing. |
Originally Posted by Tidgy
(Post 12065892)
please tell me you don't believe that lol
Polls are showing tories ahead on their own, let alone wit brexit party helping out. so i dont think its anything to do with loosing. The polls will also narrow as we get closer to the date. One big part of this election will be the youth vote. The youth could well deliver a big surprise at this election, particularly if the old fogies don't go to vote because its too cold! The Tories will be shatting themselves if it snows :lol1: |
Hopefully Labour will get trashed, kick Corbyn out and get someone in who can pull together a party that can offer a credible alternative to the Conservative, which will in turn force them to up their game.
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
(Post 12065893)
If we had PR, then the Tories would be looking good, but with FPTP the polls are useless without the underlying geographic data and election boundaries.
The polls will also narrow as we get closer to the date. One big part of this election will be the youth vote. The youth could well deliver a big surprise at this election, particularly if the old fogies don't go to vote because its too cold! The Tories will be shatting themselves if it snows :lol1: So it's the only indication we have on where things are at the min. |
Originally Posted by andy97
(Post 12065887)
Brexit party and Tories join in common aim.
At last, Common sense prevails |
Originally Posted by andy97
(Post 12065887)
Brexit party and Tories join in common aim.
At last, Common sense prevails |
You or I dont know what agreement, hand shake has been done.
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Originally Posted by andy97
(Post 12065903)
You or I dont know what agreement, hand shake has been done.
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Shrewd move by Farage...in full knowledge that FPTP prevents his party of ever getting anywhere this is a good strategy (for a brexiteer) to block Lib and Labour without diluting seats that would already be pushing to leave the EU
As I live in areas that are Labour strongholds yet mainly voted to leave the EU, this is a tempting carrot for these areas and also an amusing reply to little wee Krankie’s SNP-Lab/Lib coalition. |
I'm not voting. Conservative keep saying we are leaving on x date and haven't delivered.
Labour and lib dems both want remain so they are crossed off too. |
Conservatives cannot deliver because of the lack of seats to command a majority (Hence pandering to the DUP...seems the media have entirely forgotten this parliaments is a coalition government:rolleyes:). That and some rebel MPs of which are gradually being weeded out; Something Boris has been better at than May.
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I have to pay huge EU import taxes weekly so I'll probably vote Brexit Party. Though if people are 50/50 on Cons or Brexit Party then this split vote will keep the abhorrent Anti-Semitic Party in local government. :(
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
(Post 12065969)
I have to pay huge EU import taxes weekly so I'll probably vote Brexit Party. Though if people are 50/50 on Cons or Brexit Party then this split vote will keep the abhorrent Anti-Semitic Party in local government. :(
Also, this isn't a local government election, so you're local government isn't going to change, only possibly your local MP! |
Originally Posted by RS_Matt
(Post 12065969)
I have to pay huge EU import taxes weekly so I'll probably vote Brexit Party. . :(
I voted Lib Dems in this poll but as I think it will come down to tactical voting I will look at the anti-Brexit sites that track the tactical vote and may change to whichever vote will bring the largest likelihood stopping Brexit. |
I will be voting LibDem, but I'm in a 20k+ Tory majority seat, so my vote will go uncounted.
The UK _really_ needs electoral reform. It's ridiculous that any vote for a smaller party is completely ignored, because of the voting system. For example, it's bonkers that th 20% or so of Brexit Party supporters will be mostly ignored, or the 15% that vote for the Lib Dems etc (or indeed Greens). A proportional representation system would be _much_ fairer and probably make people feel more like their opinion mattered. |
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