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Felix. 09 November 2019 09:13 AM

UK General Election 2019
 
Just thought the Brexit/Remain thread was getting entwined with discussions for the GE
So I thought I would start another just for the election news

^Qwerty^ 09 November 2019 09:53 AM

I live in a Conservative safe seat (David Davis), who appears to do f'all for the area compared to Andrew Percy south of the River who engages with people on a near daily basis. It's about time he went out to pasture and some new young blood was brought in who actually gives a toss.So at the moment I'm on don't know/not voting.

ALi-B 09 November 2019 10:50 AM

Added spoilt ballot if you don’t mind: Its counted and means more than not voting.

Felix. 09 November 2019 11:19 AM

Good idea.

My Mrs helps with the count for elections and every time they get one spoilt ballot paper where the person writes war and peace as to why they are not voting for any of the above. Same hand writing, so it must be the same person. Nothing abusive or nasty but its funny that they use their time to make such a protest which ultimately goes in the bin.

Felix. 09 November 2019 11:23 AM

Its amazing how many people put a tick in the box instead of a 'X'
Or strike through the ones they don't want to vote for

BMWhere? 09 November 2019 06:16 PM

Unfortunately I have to pick not voting, not because I don't want to vote, but because as an ex pat of more than 15 years, I'm denied a vote even though the Tories promised to reinstate ex pat votes!

If I was voting, it wouldn't be for the Tories, even though they are historically who I used to support. This time I would probably vote tactically in a bid to ensure the Tories lose! Regardless of Brexit, the Tories have fecked up the country for long enough!

Tidgy 10 November 2019 12:07 AM

Polls are not looking good for labour. Wouldn't surprise me if cons get a bigger majority this time round.

ALi-B 10 November 2019 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 12065753)
Polls are not looking good for labour. Wouldn't surprise me if cons get a bigger majority this time round.

Hard to guess, I reckon it’ll be pretty close, but with a very low turnout. So the die hard ‘I vote xxx because I always have’ bunch will ensure it’s as always, a two horse race.

Gina Miller is deluded in thinking Lib dems will get any further than the last time they showed any promise (based on promises they broke ;) ). Brexit party...as always FPTP will ensure even if they get more overall votes than Lib-Dem, they’ll probably manage one or two seats.

Tidgy 10 November 2019 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by ALi-B (Post 12065799)
Hard to guess, I reckon it’ll be pretty close, but with a very low turnout. So the die hard ‘I vote xxx because I always have’ bunch will ensure it’s as always, a two horse race.

Gina Miller is deluded in thinking Lib dems will get any further than the last time they showed any promise (based on promises they broke ;) ). Brexit party...as always FPTP will ensure even if they get more overall votes than Lib-Dem, they’ll probably manage one or two seats.

tbh i think lib dems will do ok, their strong stance on brexit, or canceling it, will pull votes away from the others, expecialy labour and there wishy washy indecsion.

Sad Weevil 10 November 2019 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 12065822)
tbh i think lib dems will do ok, their strong stance on brexit, or canceling it, will pull votes away from the others, expecialy labour and there wishy washy indecsion.

Lib Dems have withdrawn from my constituency under an agreement with the Greens, who poll well here. Our sitting Labour MP has a 36,000 majority (She's a remainer, which is just as well since the constituency was 80% remain in the referendum). Conservatives are nowhere, so it's between Labour and the Green party.

Tidgy 10 November 2019 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Sad Weevil (Post 12065829)
Lib Dems have withdrawn from my constituency under an agreement with the Greens, who poll well here. Our sitting Labour MP has a 36,000 majority (She's a remainer, which is just as well since the constituency was 80% remain in the referendum). Conservatives are nowhere, so it's between Labour and the Green party.

tbh if its that strong to labour i doubt it will change the result, only question is by how much

S10WRC 10 November 2019 07:41 PM

Anyone who votes Lib-Lab-Con after the last 3 years deserves to lose their right to vote... to put it politely!

Wake up people :wall:

trails 11 November 2019 10:14 AM

Tory stronghold for me, but they were decimated in the local elections by the Lib Dem’s who now have a majority...will be interesting to see how that swing relates to the GE results.

andy97 11 November 2019 12:25 PM

Brexit party and Tories join in common aim.

At last, Common sense prevails

BMWhere? 11 November 2019 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by andy97 (Post 12065887)
Brexit party and Tories join in common aim.

At last, Common sense prevails

Sounds like the Tories and Farage are running scared they are going to lose! Wonder what promises Boris had to make to get Farage to stand down?

Tidgy 11 November 2019 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by BMWhere? (Post 12065890)
Sounds like the Tories and Farage are running scared they are going to lose! Wonder what promises Boris had to make to get Farage to stand down?

please tell me you don't believe that lol

Polls are showing tories ahead on their own, let alone wit brexit party helping out. so i dont think its anything to do with loosing.

BMWhere? 11 November 2019 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 12065892)
please tell me you don't believe that lol

Polls are showing tories ahead on their own, let alone wit brexit party helping out. so i dont think its anything to do with loosing.

If we had PR, then the Tories would be looking good, but with FPTP the polls are useless without the underlying geographic data and election boundaries.

The polls will also narrow as we get closer to the date.

One big part of this election will be the youth vote. The youth could well deliver a big surprise at this election, particularly if the old fogies don't go to vote because its too cold! The Tories will be shatting themselves if it snows :lol1:

^Qwerty^ 11 November 2019 01:16 PM

Hopefully Labour will get trashed, kick Corbyn out and get someone in who can pull together a party that can offer a credible alternative to the Conservative, which will in turn force them to up their game.

Tidgy 11 November 2019 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by BMWhere? (Post 12065893)
If we had PR, then the Tories would be looking good, but with FPTP the polls are useless without the underlying geographic data and election boundaries.

The polls will also narrow as we get closer to the date.

One big part of this election will be the youth vote. The youth could well deliver a big surprise at this election, particularly if the old fogies don't go to vote because its too cold! The Tories will be shatting themselves if it snows :lol1:

o dont get me wrong, polls are only an indication and can be very wrong, look at brexit.

So it's the only indication we have on where things are at the min.

trails 11 November 2019 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by andy97 (Post 12065887)
Brexit party and Tories join in common aim.

At last, Common sense prevails

It's not an alliance though is it...isn't it just Farage being pragmatic about what his party can really achieve and a pre-emptive face saving move?

Mr Fuji 11 November 2019 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by andy97 (Post 12065887)
Brexit party and Tories join in common aim.

At last, Common sense prevails

Your wish for Brexit aside, do you honestly think Boris or Nigel are capable of any common sense?

andy97 11 November 2019 02:41 PM

You or I dont know what agreement, hand shake has been done.

trails 11 November 2019 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by andy97 (Post 12065903)
You or I dont know what agreement, hand shake has been done.

Totally agree Andy...in truth we all know very little about what goes on and who has agreed what, it's all just guess work; spectators the lot of us.

ALi-B 11 November 2019 10:16 PM

Shrewd move by Farage...in full knowledge that FPTP prevents his party of ever getting anywhere this is a good strategy (for a brexiteer) to block Lib and Labour without diluting seats that would already be pushing to leave the EU

As I live in areas that are Labour strongholds yet mainly voted to leave the EU, this is a tempting carrot for these areas and also an amusing reply to little wee Krankie’s SNP-Lab/Lib coalition.

RobsyUK 11 November 2019 10:19 PM

I'm not voting. Conservative keep saying we are leaving on x date and haven't delivered.
Labour and lib dems both want remain so they are crossed off too.

ALi-B 11 November 2019 11:07 PM

Conservatives cannot deliver because of the lack of seats to command a majority (Hence pandering to the DUP...seems the media have entirely forgotten this parliaments is a coalition government:rolleyes:). That and some rebel MPs of which are gradually being weeded out; Something Boris has been better at than May.

RS_Matt 12 November 2019 08:27 AM

I have to pay huge EU import taxes weekly so I'll probably vote Brexit Party. Though if people are 50/50 on Cons or Brexit Party then this split vote will keep the abhorrent Anti-Semitic Party in local government. :(

BMWhere? 12 November 2019 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 12065969)
I have to pay huge EU import taxes weekly so I'll probably vote Brexit Party. Though if people are 50/50 on Cons or Brexit Party then this split vote will keep the abhorrent Anti-Semitic Party in local government. :(

You are probably the only person in the UK paying taxes on imports from the EU! Or did you mean YOU WANT to pay huge EU import taxes so you'll vote for Brexit party!

Also, this isn't a local government election, so you're local government isn't going to change, only possibly your local MP!

mrtheedge2u2 13 November 2019 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by RS_Matt (Post 12065969)
I have to pay huge EU import taxes weekly so I'll probably vote Brexit Party. . :(

Then you are doing it wrong.

I voted Lib Dems in this poll but as I think it will come down to tactical voting I will look at the anti-Brexit sites that track the tactical vote and may change to whichever vote will bring the largest likelihood stopping Brexit.

Henrik 13 November 2019 03:08 PM

I will be voting LibDem, but I'm in a 20k+ Tory majority seat, so my vote will go uncounted.

The UK _really_ needs electoral reform. It's ridiculous that any vote for a smaller party is completely ignored, because of the voting system.

For example, it's bonkers that th 20% or so of Brexit Party supporters will be mostly ignored, or the 15% that vote for the Lib Dems etc (or indeed Greens). A proportional representation system would be _much_ fairer and probably make people feel more like their opinion mattered.


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