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Cameron and the great betrayal
Everything we are facing today is a result of Cameron's 'look how big I am' foolishness.
What a foofin mess. Rees-mog is the best we can hope for. You wouldn't call him if your house was on fire but We're listening to him when it comes to the mess that is his want. |
Tried to be a smart arse..Thought a remain win would create a mandate for easier EU alignment with future issues. Failed to realise half of the country’s voting public have had enough of current politics. |
From memory, didn't Cameron agree to the ref in order to cling to power?
As above he didn't think for a minute that leave would win, and nor did most people, hence we are now in a right old mess. |
But it was an Election pledge he saw through.
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
(Post 12034501)
But it was an Election pledge he saw through.
Equally, whats the government supposed to do now - ignore the people and have another crack at a vote, hoping we get a remain this time, or carry out the request of the original voters? It is a right mess though, don't think anyone will argue with that. Today will see it get even more messy, as the DUP will not support the PM, so I guess this afternoon we'll know more |
Originally Posted by urban
(Post 12034513)
What else was he supposed to do?
Equally, whats the government supposed to do now - ignore the people and have another crack at a vote, hoping we get a remain this time, or carry out the request of the original voters? It is a right mess though, don't think anyone will argue with that. Today will see it get even more messy, as the DUP will not support the PM, so I guess this afternoon we'll know more |
Originally Posted by urban
(Post 12034513)
What else was he supposed to do?
Equally, whats the government supposed to do now - ignore the people and have another crack at a vote, hoping we get a remain this time, or carry out the request of the original voters? It is a right mess though, don't think anyone will argue with that. Today will see it get even more messy, as the DUP will not support the PM, so I guess this afternoon we'll know more |
The referendum was rushed! Camoron promised the referendum for 2017 but had it in 2016 instead. He also promised to reverse the previous Labour governments restrictions on Ex-pat voting rights before holding the referendum.
The result was 17 million for leave and 16 million to remain, but there were 1 million Brits in the EU who are directly affected by this an were not eligible to vote, not to mention many more elsewhere around the world who would likely have voted to remain. With Ex-pat votes allowed, the result probably would have gone the other way! |
Originally Posted by 1509joe
(Post 12034523)
:lol1: Profile change :thumb: The only thing the DUP are interested in doing is filling their pockets with illegal taxpayers money and their worried this could hinder their objectives :D
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**** hits the fan time
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Originally Posted by urban
(Post 12034527)
The DUP do not want a border between NI and the UK, nor do they want NI treated any differently as a result.
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
(Post 12034533)
What has that to do with my post :wonder:
The only thing the DUP are interested in doing is filling their pockets |
Originally Posted by urban
(Post 12034539)
You said this
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
(Post 12034543)
What the truth.
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Your going round in circles here what are you trying to say.
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Trying to understand WTF you're writing :)
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You know exactly. Enoughs enough. Good luck
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Originally Posted by urban
(Post 12034550)
Trying to understand WTF you're writing :)
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Originally Posted by coupe_20vt
(Post 12034557)
:lol1::lol1:
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
(Post 12034566)
What's so funny he knows exactly what I'm saying and if your that deluded you don't keep your nose out.
You read that back, and tell me it makes sense. Earlier you write. What the truth. |
Originally Posted by coupe_20vt
(Post 12034557)
:lol1::lol1:
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Originally Posted by urban
(Post 12034567)
See.
You read that back, and tell me it makes sense. Earlier you write. Something else that doesn't make a lot of sense. |
More of the usual bullshine on here.
Assertions that we are in a mess...no proof. Assumptions that all ex-pats would vote stay...no proof. "All that we are facing".....what, exactly...and REAL things, not what might happen, please? And finally, Cameron fulfilling an election pledge..and apparently he had no choice???? What, like they almost IMMEDIATE cancellation of loads of rail electrification in the north, all pledged on the Tory election manifesto.:rolleyes: |
I'm sure there's a number of welll off chateau owning Leaver pensioner types Nigel Lawson etc etc Probably even now applying for Foreign citizenship |
Originally Posted by dpb
(Post 12034587)
I'm sure there's a number of welll off chateau owning Leaver pensioner types Nigel Lawson etc etc Probably even now applying for Foreign citizenship As for our resident chateau owning leaver type, he never committed to living in France and only uses it as a holiday home. Once you really live somewhere else, your attitude changes and the longer you are there, the bigger the change! It currently takes 15 years before you lose your UK voting rights, for me, the vote came one year too late! After that amount of time living abroad, you're outlook on the EU would certainly have become more positive and is very unlikely you would vote to leave - apart from perhaps those Benidorm to$$ers who, for all intents and purposes, just live in a sunnier region of the UK! Personally, I don't know and haven't met a single British ex-pat (in or outside of the EU) who would have voted to leave if they had a vote! |
Originally Posted by BMWhere?
(Post 12034593)
It was pointed out in the EU parliament yesterday that Farage has made sure his kids have German nationality!
As for our resident chateau owning leaver type, he never committed to living in France and only uses it as a holiday home. Once you really live somewhere else, your attitude changes and the longer you are there, the bigger the change! It currently takes 15 years before you lose your UK voting rights, for me, the vote came one year too late! After that amount of time living abroad, you're outlook on the EU would certainly have become more positive and is very unlikely you would vote to leave - apart from perhaps those Benidorm to$$ers who, for all intents and purposes, just live in a sunnier region of the UK! Personally, I don't know and haven't met a single British ex-pat (in or outside of the EU) who would have voted to leave if they had a vote! Nigel Farage separated from his German wife (his 2nd) some time ago. The children already have german nationality from their mother and have done so for quite some time. |
Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
(Post 12034603)
Nigel Farage separated from his German wife (his 2nd) some time ago. The children already have german nationality from their mother and have done so for quite some time. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a3989496.html Didn't know (care) that he'd separated from his wife, she obviously realised how much of a **** he is! |
Originally Posted by BMWhere?
(Post 12034593)
It was pointed out in the EU parliament yesterday that Farage has made sure his kids have German nationality!
As for our resident chateau owning leaver type, he never committed to living in France and only uses it as a holiday home. Once you really live somewhere else, your attitude changes and the longer you are there, the bigger the change! It currently takes 15 years before you lose your UK voting rights, for me, the vote came one year too late! After that amount of time living abroad, you're outlook on the EU would certainly have become more positive and is very unlikely you would vote to leave - apart from perhaps those Benidorm to$$ers who, for all intents and purposes, just live in a sunnier region of the UK! Personally, I don't know and haven't met a single British ex-pat (in or outside of the EU) who would have voted to leave if they had a vote! Obviously not travelled much in Spain. I’d advise you alter Benidorm (which is still mostly Spanish during off season) for Torrevieja, there you will find loads of Stereotypical expats all year round (almost double the % of Benidorm at its peak) . :lol1: |
Originally Posted by ALi-B
(Post 12034623)
Obviously not travelled much in Spain. I’d advise you alter Benidorm (which is still mostly Spanish during off season) for Torrevieja, there you will find loads of Stereotypical expats all year round (almost double the % of Benidorm at its peak) . :lol1: Its not limited to Benedorm or Torrevieja, just those types of places. Of all the nice places to live in Spain, why anyone would want to go and live in a horrible concrete holiday resort full of other "foreigners" is beyond me! |
Yes Bendorms brit population is mostly seasonal (with varying “waves” of invasions during each season; Stags/Hens, The Smith Family followed by the OAPs in winter If you want ghastly concrete mass production boxes with little all else surrounding it where Brits inhabit all year round and can exist all year round without needing to meet or talk to a Spaniard, Torrevieja is the place to be. :thumb: Think Benidorm = Blackpool, Torrevieja = Scunthorpe ;) |
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