Cameron and the great betrayal
13 November 2018, 07:07 PM
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Cameron and the great betrayal
Everything we are facing today is a result of Cameron's 'look how big I am' foolishness.
What a foofin mess.
Rees-mog is the best we can hope for.
You wouldn't call him if your house was on fire but We're listening to him when it comes to the mess that is his want.
What a foofin mess.
Rees-mog is the best we can hope for.
You wouldn't call him if your house was on fire but We're listening to him when it comes to the mess that is his want.
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14 November 2018, 09:13 AM
#5
What else was he supposed to do?
Equally, whats the government supposed to do now - ignore the people and have another crack at a vote, hoping we get a remain this time, or carry out the request of the original voters?
It is a right mess though, don't think anyone will argue with that.
Today will see it get even more messy, as the DUP will not support the PM, so I guess this afternoon we'll know more
Equally, whats the government supposed to do now - ignore the people and have another crack at a vote, hoping we get a remain this time, or carry out the request of the original voters?
It is a right mess though, don't think anyone will argue with that.
Today will see it get even more messy, as the DUP will not support the PM, so I guess this afternoon we'll know more
14 November 2018, 10:21 AM
#6
What else was he supposed to do?
Equally, whats the government supposed to do now - ignore the people and have another crack at a vote, hoping we get a remain this time, or carry out the request of the original voters?
It is a right mess though, don't think anyone will argue with that.
Today will see it get even more messy, as the DUP will not support the PM, so I guess this afternoon we'll know more
Equally, whats the government supposed to do now - ignore the people and have another crack at a vote, hoping we get a remain this time, or carry out the request of the original voters?
It is a right mess though, don't think anyone will argue with that.
Today will see it get even more messy, as the DUP will not support the PM, so I guess this afternoon we'll know more
14 November 2018, 10:28 AM
#7
What else was he supposed to do?
Equally, whats the government supposed to do now - ignore the people and have another crack at a vote, hoping we get a remain this time, or carry out the request of the original voters?
It is a right mess though, don't think anyone will argue with that.
Today will see it get even more messy, as the DUP will not support the PM, so I guess this afternoon we'll know more
Equally, whats the government supposed to do now - ignore the people and have another crack at a vote, hoping we get a remain this time, or carry out the request of the original voters?
It is a right mess though, don't think anyone will argue with that.
Today will see it get even more messy, as the DUP will not support the PM, so I guess this afternoon we'll know more
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14 November 2018, 10:50 AM
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The referendum was rushed! Camoron promised the referendum for 2017 but had it in 2016 instead. He also promised to reverse the previous Labour governments restrictions on Ex-pat voting rights before holding the referendum.
The result was 17 million for leave and 16 million to remain, but there were 1 million Brits in the EU who are directly affected by this an were not eligible to vote, not to mention many more elsewhere around the world who would likely have voted to remain. With Ex-pat votes allowed, the result probably would have gone the other way!
The result was 17 million for leave and 16 million to remain, but there were 1 million Brits in the EU who are directly affected by this an were not eligible to vote, not to mention many more elsewhere around the world who would likely have voted to remain. With Ex-pat votes allowed, the result probably would have gone the other way!
14 November 2018, 03:05 PM
#23
More of the usual bullshine on here.
Assertions that we are in a mess...no proof.
Assumptions that all ex-pats would vote stay...no proof.
"All that we are facing".....what, exactly...and REAL things, not what might happen, please?
And finally, Cameron fulfilling an election pledge..and apparently he had no choice???? What, like they almost IMMEDIATE cancellation of loads of rail electrification in the north, all pledged on the Tory election manifesto.
Assertions that we are in a mess...no proof.
Assumptions that all ex-pats would vote stay...no proof.
"All that we are facing".....what, exactly...and REAL things, not what might happen, please?
And finally, Cameron fulfilling an election pledge..and apparently he had no choice???? What, like they almost IMMEDIATE cancellation of loads of rail electrification in the north, all pledged on the Tory election manifesto.
14 November 2018, 03:26 PM
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I'm sure there's a number of welll off chateau owning Leaver pensioner types
Nigel Lawson etc etc
Probably even now applying for Foreign citizenship
Nigel Lawson etc etc
Probably even now applying for Foreign citizenship
14 November 2018, 04:03 PM
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As for our resident chateau owning leaver type, he never committed to living in France and only uses it as a holiday home. Once you really live somewhere else, your attitude changes and the longer you are there, the bigger the change! It currently takes 15 years before you lose your UK voting rights, for me, the vote came one year too late! After that amount of time living abroad, you're outlook on the EU would certainly have become more positive and is very unlikely you would vote to leave - apart from perhaps those Benidorm to$$ers who, for all intents and purposes, just live in a sunnier region of the UK!
Personally, I don't know and haven't met a single British ex-pat (in or outside of the EU) who would have voted to leave if they had a vote!
14 November 2018, 04:50 PM
#26
It was pointed out in the EU parliament yesterday that Farage has made sure his kids have German nationality!
As for our resident chateau owning leaver type, he never committed to living in France and only uses it as a holiday home. Once you really live somewhere else, your attitude changes and the longer you are there, the bigger the change! It currently takes 15 years before you lose your UK voting rights, for me, the vote came one year too late! After that amount of time living abroad, you're outlook on the EU would certainly have become more positive and is very unlikely you would vote to leave - apart from perhaps those Benidorm to$$ers who, for all intents and purposes, just live in a sunnier region of the UK!
Personally, I don't know and haven't met a single British ex-pat (in or outside of the EU) who would have voted to leave if they had a vote!
As for our resident chateau owning leaver type, he never committed to living in France and only uses it as a holiday home. Once you really live somewhere else, your attitude changes and the longer you are there, the bigger the change! It currently takes 15 years before you lose your UK voting rights, for me, the vote came one year too late! After that amount of time living abroad, you're outlook on the EU would certainly have become more positive and is very unlikely you would vote to leave - apart from perhaps those Benidorm to$$ers who, for all intents and purposes, just live in a sunnier region of the UK!
Personally, I don't know and haven't met a single British ex-pat (in or outside of the EU) who would have voted to leave if they had a vote!
Nigel Farage separated from his German wife (his 2nd) some time ago. The children already have german nationality from their mother and have done so for quite some time.
14 November 2018, 05:03 PM
#27
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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a3989496.html
Didn't know (care) that he'd separated from his wife, she obviously realised how much of a **** he is!
14 November 2018, 06:14 PM
#28
It was pointed out in the EU parliament yesterday that Farage has made sure his kids have German nationality!
As for our resident chateau owning leaver type, he never committed to living in France and only uses it as a holiday home. Once you really live somewhere else, your attitude changes and the longer you are there, the bigger the change! It currently takes 15 years before you lose your UK voting rights, for me, the vote came one year too late! After that amount of time living abroad, you're outlook on the EU would certainly have become more positive and is very unlikely you would vote to leave - apart from perhaps those Benidorm to$$ers who, for all intents and purposes, just live in a sunnier region of the UK!
Personally, I don't know and haven't met a single British ex-pat (in or outside of the EU) who would have voted to leave if they had a vote!
As for our resident chateau owning leaver type, he never committed to living in France and only uses it as a holiday home. Once you really live somewhere else, your attitude changes and the longer you are there, the bigger the change! It currently takes 15 years before you lose your UK voting rights, for me, the vote came one year too late! After that amount of time living abroad, you're outlook on the EU would certainly have become more positive and is very unlikely you would vote to leave - apart from perhaps those Benidorm to$$ers who, for all intents and purposes, just live in a sunnier region of the UK!
Personally, I don't know and haven't met a single British ex-pat (in or outside of the EU) who would have voted to leave if they had a vote!
Obviously not travelled much in Spain. I’d advise you alter Benidorm (which is still mostly Spanish during off season) for Torrevieja, there you will find loads of Stereotypical expats all year round (almost double the % of Benidorm at its peak) .
Last edited by ALi-B; 14 November 2018 at 06:19 PM.
14 November 2018, 08:57 PM
#29
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The closest I've been to Benidorm is driving past on the motorway after landing in Alicante (that was bad enough) and its obvious enough from that distance I don't want to go anywhere near it 
Its not limited to Benedorm or Torrevieja, just those types of places. Of all the nice places to live in Spain, why anyone would want to go and live in a horrible concrete holiday resort full of other "foreigners" is beyond me!
15 November 2018, 07:56 AM
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Yes Bendorms brit population is mostly seasonal (with varying “waves” of invasions during each season; Stags/Hens, The Smith Family followed by the OAPs in winter
If you want ghastly concrete mass production boxes with little all else surrounding it where Brits inhabit all year round and can exist all year round without needing to meet or talk to a Spaniard, Torrevieja is the place to be.
Think Benidorm = Blackpool, Torrevieja = Scunthorpe
If you want ghastly concrete mass production boxes with little all else surrounding it where Brits inhabit all year round and can exist all year round without needing to meet or talk to a Spaniard, Torrevieja is the place to be.
Think Benidorm = Blackpool, Torrevieja = Scunthorpe
Last edited by ALi-B; 15 November 2018 at 08:19 AM.