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the shreksta 30 September 2018 04:23 PM

engine options for hawkeye sti
 
so next year i will be upping the power on my hawkeye to around 450-500bhp but im unsure of which way to go with the engine, i was going to replace the rods in my current engine and give it a refresh whilst its apart.

what would be needed to run a 2.1 stroker in my car? i was talking with a highly rated engine builder about this earlier this year and was told that unless i have a syvecs it wouldnt be possible as the 2.5 DBW cam triggers are 3 wire and the 2.0 are 2 wire and not interchangeable. also the front left hand cam pulley trigger is not on the 2.5. is there any other ecu that could sort this? really liking the sound of the link g4 ecu at present.

i do love the torque of the 2.5 but hate the feeling in the back of my head that at any point it could fail as the bore-wall thickness is wafer thin.

i think the 2.35 engine may be out of price range from what ive read.

i can budget around £10k for this at the minute.

hackisfun 30 September 2018 04:56 PM

Roger Clark motorsport

https://rogerclarkmotorsport.co.uk/store/product/617-rcm500-235l-closed-deck-block-short-engine

Sell up old engine and used towards rest of build/ donor parts etc. Budget probably won't stretch for the turbo capable but doing the main build the way u want then upgrading at a later date to get the power u want

the shreksta 30 September 2018 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by hackisfun (Post 12028874)
Roger Clark motorsport

https://rogerclarkmotorsport.co.uk/s...k-short-engine

Sell up old engine and used towards rest of build/ donor parts etc. Budget probably won't stretch for the turbo capable but doing the main build the way u want then upgrading at a later date to get the power u want

saw that earlier buddy but until i know which heads will fit it and my car i cant comment on it

Pete 30 September 2018 05:38 PM

Have you not spoken to Mark @ TDR Shreksta?? I thought they were your tuner??

the shreksta 30 September 2018 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Pete (Post 12028879)
Have you not spoken to Mark @ TDR Shreksta?? I thought they were your tuner??

i plan on going there either this week or next to speak with mark, last time i spoke to michael they were really really busy until mid october so thought i would give them a few weeks to catch up after the week they were closed

Pete 30 September 2018 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 12028880)
i plan on going there either this week or next to speak with mark, last time i spoke to michael they were really really busy until mid october so thought i would give them a few weeks to catch up after the week they were closed


Sounds good, be interesting to see which direction you go buddy, all the best with it too ;)

the shreksta 30 September 2018 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Pete (Post 12028881)



Sounds good, be interesting to see which direction you go buddy, all the best with it too ;)

thanks buddy, its something I've always wanted to do but had bad luck with last 2 imprezas so whilst I'm financially comfortable I see no reason for not doing it.


hackisfun 30 September 2018 09:24 PM

Matty on here is selling an 800bhp capable engine for £6500 was rebuild and check by him and has a total estimated build costs for £13000 might be worth a look

the shreksta 01 October 2018 05:58 AM

Does anybody know if 2.5 avcs heads fit onto an ej22 2.35 block?

stockcar 01 October 2018 09:22 AM

at the level your looking at a properly specced / built 2.5 with a CDB insert from AS Performance would be the way to go..............

the shreksta 01 October 2018 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by stockcar (Post 12028922)
at the level your looking at a properly specced / built 2.5 with a CDB insert from AS Performance would be the way to go..............

I have a closed deck block from scoobyclinic, who supplies their closed deck inserts? Is it as performance? Im sure you will know :)

stockcar 01 October 2018 02:46 PM

pretty sure they are about the only supplier and do them for most of the rest...............

the shreksta 01 October 2018 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by stockcar (Post 12028991)
pretty sure they are about the only supplier and do them for most of the rest...............

what are darton liners? is that instead of the closed deck conversion?

S744hdv 01 October 2018 07:32 PM

What's the cost of having a 2.5 block converted?

96sti 01 October 2018 09:24 PM

I may have a 2.1 stroker block for sale running 430bhp atm

stockcar 02 October 2018 08:54 AM

Darton (or otherwise) liners are a massive expense and overkill at this level, CDB is far more cost effective and works

personally you would only liner a block you were trying to extract the maximum from or to recover a damaged block........

the shreksta 02 October 2018 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by stockcar (Post 12029065)
Darton (or otherwise) liners are a massive expense and overkill at this level, CDB is far more cost effective and works

personally you would only liner a block you were trying to extract the maximum from or to recover a damaged block........

so a closed deck conversion is plenty for 500bhp then?

the shreksta 02 October 2018 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by 96sti (Post 12029041)
I may have a 2.1 stroker block for sale running 430bhp atm

thanks buddy but not really looking at 2nd hand engines

rsjohn 02 October 2018 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by 96sti (Post 12029041)
I may have a 2.1 stroker block for sale running 430bhp atm

Whats spec, miles etc and price please?

96sti 02 October 2018 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by rsjohn (Post 12029112)
Whats spec, miles etc and price please?

Full engine rebuild in March this year consisting of:
New block bored and honed to 2.1 ltrs, matched Mahle pistons, forged rods, cosworth bearings, cosworth mlr steel head gaskets, uprated 12mm oil pump, deutchworks 300 fuel pump, 650cc injectors, arp head bolts, rcm400 billet turbo, front mount intercooler and 3" alley pipework, new radiator, hks induction kit, ACT HDSS clutch kit, full turbo-back 3" decatted exhaust system, black diamond vented/cross-drilled/grooved discs all round with ebc pads, new rear shocks, new driveshafts, new battery, fully re-mapped running 430bhp/400nm.18" Wolfrace wheels with Toyo T1S tyres all round, jvc cd player, 10" subwoofer with amplifier in the boot. The car itself has done 99k im breaking it

rsjohn 02 October 2018 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by 96sti (Post 12029128)
Full engine rebuild in March this year consisting of:
New block bored and honed to 2.1 ltrs, matched Mahle pistons, forged rods, cosworth bearings, cosworth mlr steel head gaskets, uprated 12mm oil pump, deutchworks 300 fuel pump, 650cc injectors, arp head bolts, rcm400 billet turbo, front mount intercooler and 3" alley pipework, new radiator, hks induction kit, ACT HDSS clutch kit, full turbo-back 3" decatted exhaust system, black diamond vented/cross-drilled/grooved discs all round with ebc pads, new rear shocks, new driveshafts, new battery, fully re-mapped running 430bhp/400nm.18" Wolfrace wheels with Toyo T1S tyres all round, jvc cd player, 10" subwoofer with amplifier in the boot. The car itself has done 99k im breaking it

How many miles has the engine covered and whats the price please?
Also would AVCS heads fit?

the shreksta 02 October 2018 06:08 PM

looking more likely that i will remove my current engine and split the heads from it and sell the forged bottom end to generate some funds to put towards a short block with the spec i require.

S744hdv 02 October 2018 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 12029136)
looking more likely that i will remove my current engine and split the heads from it and sell the forged bottom end to generate some funds to put towards a short block with the spec i require.

how much would you want for your block?

S744hdv 02 October 2018 06:32 PM

Surely a well built 2.5 would be better than 2.1?

the shreksta 02 October 2018 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by S744hdv (Post 12029144)
how much would you want for your block?

hi

not really gave it much thought, it was built in august 2016 and covered 11k @352bhp with no track use just fast road use and so far had 4 oil changes

spec of the block is

2.5 closed deck conversion
mahle 2618 pistons
standard rods with arp rod bolts
new crank
acl bearings throughout
genuine subaru block seal kit

i will have the engine compression and leak down tested before sale for new owners peace of mind

the shreksta 02 October 2018 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by S744hdv (Post 12029145)
Surely a well built 2.5 would be better than 2.1?

will be having the 2.5 i think but built to handle 500+bhp

S744hdv 02 October 2018 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 12029147)
will be having the 2.5 i think but built to handle 500+bhp

thinking about swapping my 2.1 out for a 2.5 at the moment, that's unless I get rid completely and get something a bit newer.

the shreksta 04 October 2018 01:16 PM

Off to mark @ thwaites now for meeting to discuss my options

ScottyPPP 04 October 2018 03:34 PM

My Closed Deck 2.5 is fine at 477Bhp :thumb:

the shreksta 04 October 2018 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by ScottyPPP (Post 12029382)
My Closed Deck 2.5 is fine at 477Bhp :thumb:

whats the spec of yours buddy?


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