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North Korea - so what would YOU do?
Now climate change may do us all in in a couple of hundred years but Kim-Jong-Il, the totally evil b,astard who runs North Korea could well destroy much of the world in the next decade as he develops nukes that may work. He is possibly the only world leader that would be prepared to sacrifice his own country to make a point. So what should we do about him? The West seems to have kept a lid on Iran's nuclear ambitions and Israel could always step in if Iran breaks too many rules. A N Korean coup seems unlikely and what a bloodbath that would be. More sanctions just means more starvation to the mass of N Korean citizens and S Korea would be reluctant to take on the might of the N Korean military. Interesting that China supported the recent UN condemnation and may be reluctant to give N Korea much support. Is the US missile defence system fool proof? A US/Japanese/S Korea take over is a big call. Ideas into suggestion box please before he kills us all. David |
Collaboration between several governments, to the tune of say £500mil Could tempt a hit man or team of mercenarys to take him out.
Off the books of course :D Or the UK could donate a fully armed Trident for him to test fire, much the same effect really :) |
TBH its getting to the stage where need to hit his military structure. It's not like ISIS where your trying to find military in civilian areas. NK has airbases, army bases etc etc. which will be mince meat for most military forces, also china wont step in and start a war over NK given they are p!ssed off with them.
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We don't need do anything, sooner later he may actually attack but I reckon highly unlikely
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You may as well ask what should we do about radical Islam.
There is nothing to be done other than for his own countrymen (supporters) to decide he no longer represents their interest. How many heads of foreign governments are we allowed to depose simply because we don't like their bullying ways? |
Originally Posted by Blue by You
(Post 11919309)
You may as well ask what should we do about radical Islam.
There is nothing to be done other than for his own countrymen (supporters) to decide he no longer represents their interest. How many heads of foreign governments are we allowed to depose simply because we don't like their bullying ways? Very different situations. |
Originally Posted by Blue by You
(Post 11919309)
You may as well ask what should we do about radical Islam.
There is nothing to be done other than for his own countrymen (supporters) to decide he no longer represents their interest. How many heads of foreign governments are we allowed to depose simply because we don't like their bullying ways? |
Seems the Malaysians have the right idea :thumb:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-38971655 Just read the article and..... Mr Kim was poisoned at the airport by two women, believed to be North Korean operatives. This is to be confirmed BUT this nutter has a long history of doing in relatives, and he potentially has a finger hovering over the 'button' Scary https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...c9f4f5be1c.jpg |
Originally Posted by Steve001
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Originally Posted by Puff The Magic Wagon!
(Post 11919319)
Or more likely a bit of fratricide
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Originally Posted by David Lock
(Post 11919288)
Now climate change may do us all in in a couple of hundred years but Kim-Jong-Il, the totally evil b,astard who runs North Korea could well destroy much of the world in the next decade as he develops nukes that may work. He is possibly the only world leader that would be prepared to sacrifice his own country to make a point. So what should we do about him? The West seems to have kept a lid on Iran's nuclear ambitions and Israel could always step in if Iran breaks too many rules. A N Korean coup seems unlikely and what a bloodbath that would be. More sanctions just means more starvation to the mass of N Korean citizens and S Korea would be reluctant to take on the might of the N Korean military. Interesting that China supported the recent UN condemnation and may be reluctant to give N Korea much support. Is the US missile defence system fool proof? A US/Japanese/S Korea take over is a big call. Ideas into suggestion box please before he kills us all. David https://www.engadget.com/2014/11/13/...mpanies-first/ http://uk.businessinsider.com/zero-d...16-7?r=US&IR=T |
Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
(Post 11919366)
Cyber tech will have an effect, just like it did on the Iranian centrifuges.
https://www.engadget.com/2014/11/13/...mpanies-first/ http://uk.businessinsider.com/zero-d...16-7?r=US&IR=T |
Originally Posted by On-the-bog
(Post 11919314)
Very different situations.
Originally Posted by Steve001
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Unlike 'other' heads of government, on a scale of 'Crazy individual most likely to launch a nuclear weapon' he's way way up there :(
I'm not saying I know the answer, he's a crackpot for sure, but any attempt at aggressive suppression is going to leave the west with egg on its face - again. |
Originally Posted by Steve001
(Post 11919298)
Collaboration between several governments, to the tune of say £500mil Could tempt a hit man or team of mercenarys to take him out.
Off the books of course :D Or the UK could donate a fully armed Trident for him to test fire, much the same effect really :) |
Originally Posted by Blue by You
(Post 11919380)
I disagree. Both situations are idealogical, and you can't defeat an idea with external intervention.
And Saddam was the equivalent 'smoking gun', albeit of a chemical weapon (supposedly). That piece of intervention worked well didn't it? I'm not saying I know the answer, he's a crackpot for sure, but any attempt at aggressive suppression is going to leave the west with egg on its face - again. There's a major difference between a chemical weapon and a nuclear bomb. Perhaps we should stand by until he explodes one or more on a Western mainland and then act? That doesn't sound like a workable solution to me. |
How about for once the yanks and their british lap dogs mind your own business let's not forget how the last weapons of mass destruction witch hunt ended
Sort your own **** at home |
Originally Posted by neil-h
(Post 11919370)
Thing is C&I security has come on leaps and bounds since Stuxnet, pureley because a lot of companies realised they were just as vulnerable as the Iranians were.
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
(Post 11919385)
How about for once the yanks and their british lap dogs mind your own business let's not forget how the last weapons of mass destruction witch hunt ended
Sort your own **** at home You might try that yourself |
Were a neutral country always have been
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Why don't they do what they usually do and kill him then we can see how screwed up his country will be without him. Although he doesn't have any oil so NATO will have no interest in dealing with him.
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True that no telling these murdering ex army nuts
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Next time he fires off a missile, shoot it down - then wait and see what happens.
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Mindless propaganda I'll take my chances
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
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Close, the test fired Trident was American.
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Anyone who thinks a quick, convenient assassination is even a remote possibility should have a read of
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Originally Posted by markjmd
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Anyone who thinks a quick, convenient assassination is even a remote possibility should have a read of this.
That looks like a good read |
Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
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Were a neutral country always have been
That action negates any claim of neutrality mate. |
And thousand of irish men who died fighting in the British army what about that?
The Irish republic were neutral |
Originally Posted by Blue by You
(Post 11919380)
I disagree. Both situations are idealogical, and you can't defeat an idea with external intervention.
While the leadership seem to have fanatical support it isn't as strong as made out. Even the senior members struggle to toe the party line, look how many are continually executed. Plus the issue isn't with NK going around blowing places up, at the minute, it's more to do with the threat they pose when they have the capability. T he affect of taking out NK military structure but leaving the hierarchy in place would remove any risk to outside country's. Which is where it differs from ISIS. |
Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
(Post 11919505)
And thousand of irish men who died fighting in the British army what about that?
The Irish republic were neutral You need to check your history before you boast about that. It's very true, there were many Irish who joined the Allies in the fight against fascism. Disgracefully, instead of being greeted as heroes when they returned to their own country they were treated like dogs. Their names were distributed throughout the country so that they found it impossible to find work and support their families. This was because the majority of Irish so hated the British they wanted the Nazis to win. So much for neutrality. |
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