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Now climate change may do us all in in a couple of hundred years but Kim-Jong-Il, the totally evil b,astard who runs North Korea could well destroy much of the world in the next decade as he develops nukes that may work. He is possibly the only world leader that would be prepared to sacrifice his own country to make a point.
So what should we do about him? The West seems to have kept a lid on Iran's nuclear ambitions and Israel could always step in if Iran breaks too many rules.
A N Korean coup seems unlikely and what a bloodbath that would be. More sanctions just means more starvation to the mass of N Korean citizens and S Korea would be reluctant to take on the might of the N Korean military. Interesting that China supported the recent UN condemnation and may be reluctant to give N Korea much support. Is the US missile defence system fool proof? A US/Japanese/S Korea take over is a big call.
Ideas into suggestion box please before he kills us all.
David
Last edited by David Lock; 14 February 2017 at 12:21 PM.
TBH its getting to the stage where need to hit his military structure. It's not like ISIS where your trying to find military in civilian areas. NK has airbases, army bases etc etc. which will be mince meat for most military forces, also china wont step in and start a war over NK given they are p!ssed off with them.
You may as well ask what should we do about radical Islam.
There is nothing to be done other than for his own countrymen (supporters) to decide he no longer represents their interest.
How many heads of foreign governments are we allowed to depose simply because we don't like their bullying ways?
You may as well ask what should we do about radical Islam.
There is nothing to be done other than for his own countrymen (supporters) to decide he no longer represents their interest.
How many heads of foreign governments are we allowed to depose simply because we don't like their bullying ways?
You may as well ask what should we do about radical Islam.
There is nothing to be done other than for his own countrymen (supporters) to decide he no longer represents their interest.
How many heads of foreign governments are we allowed to depose simply because we don't like their bullying ways?
Unlike 'other' heads of government, on a scale of 'Crazy individual most likely to launch a nuclear weapon' he's way way up there
Just read the article and.....
Mr Kim was poisoned at the airport by two women, believed to be North Korean operatives.
This is to be confirmed BUT this nutter has a long history of doing in relatives, and he potentially has a finger hovering over the 'button'
Scary
Last edited by Steve001; 14 February 2017 at 02:42 PM.
Now climate change may do us all in in a couple of hundred years but Kim-Jong-Il, the totally evil b,astard who runs North Korea could well destroy much of the world in the next decade as he develops nukes that may work. He is possibly the only world leader that would be prepared to sacrifice his own country to make a point.
So what should we do about him? The West seems to have kept a lid on Iran's nuclear ambitions and Israel could always step in if Iran breaks too many rules.
A N Korean coup seems unlikely and what a bloodbath that would be. More sanctions just means more starvation to the mass of N Korean citizens and S Korea would be reluctant to take on the might of the N Korean military. Interesting that China supported the recent UN condemnation and may be reluctant to give N Korea much support. Is the US missile defence system fool proof? A US/Japanese/S Korea take over is a big call.
Ideas into suggestion box please before he kills us all.
David
Cyber tech will have an effect, just like it did on the Iranian centrifuges.
Thing is C&I security has come on leaps and bounds since Stuxnet, pureley because a lot of companies realised they were just as vulnerable as the Iranians were.
I disagree. Both situations are idealogical, and you can't defeat an idea with external intervention.
Originally Posted by Steve001
Unlike 'other' heads of government, on a scale of 'Crazy individual most likely to launch a nuclear weapon' he's way way up there
And Saddam was the equivalent 'smoking gun', albeit of a chemical weapon (supposedly). That piece of intervention worked well didn't it?
I'm not saying I know the answer, he's a crackpot for sure, but any attempt at aggressive suppression is going to leave the west with egg on its face - again.
I disagree. Both situations are idealogical, and you can't defeat an idea with external intervention.
And Saddam was the equivalent 'smoking gun', albeit of a chemical weapon (supposedly). That piece of intervention worked well didn't it?
I'm not saying I know the answer, he's a crackpot for sure, but any attempt at aggressive suppression is going to leave the west with egg on its face - again.
There's a major difference between a chemical weapon and a nuclear bomb. Perhaps we should stand by until he explodes one or more on a Western mainland and then act? That doesn't sound like a workable solution to me.
How about for once the yanks and their british lap dogs mind your own business let's not forget how the last weapons of mass destruction witch hunt ended
Sort your own **** at home
Thing is C&I security has come on leaps and bounds since Stuxnet, pureley because a lot of companies realised they were just as vulnerable as the Iranians were.
Agree and our ability to infiltrate as also improved.
How about for once the yanks and their british lap dogs mind your own business let's not forget how the last weapons of mass destruction witch hunt ended
Sort your own **** at home
Why don't they do what they usually do and kill him then we can see how screwed up his country will be without him. Although he doesn't have any oil so NATO will have no interest in dealing with him.
I disagree. Both situations are idealogical, and you can't defeat an idea with external intervention.
I wouldn't say NK is an ideology anything like ISIS at all. It's a pure dictatorship.
While the leadership seem to have fanatical support it isn't as strong as made out. Even the senior members struggle to toe the party line, look how many are continually executed. Plus the issue isn't with NK going around blowing places up, at the minute, it's more to do with the threat they pose when they have the capability. T
he affect of taking out NK military structure but leaving the hierarchy in place would remove any risk to outside country's. Which is where it differs from ISIS.
And thousand of irish men who died fighting in the British army what about that?
The Irish republic were neutral
You need to check your history before you boast about that. It's very true, there were many Irish who joined the Allies in the fight against fascism. Disgracefully, instead of being greeted as heroes when they returned to their own country they were treated like dogs. Their names were distributed throughout the country so that they found it impossible to find work and support their families. This was because the majority of Irish so hated the British they wanted the ***** to win. So much for neutrality.
14 February 2017, 12:17 PM
North Korea - so what would YOU do?
