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Guesty 26 December 2016 02:40 PM

Brake judder hatch sti 2009
 
Hope your okie chaps ive got a dilema the other day was driving down the bypas and started brakeing and seems that the sti has developed a judder like driving over the painted sleep bumps on the road this ever happened to any of you ? What could be the main cause and whats best way to track it down ?

Cheers dave

ZANY 26 December 2016 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by tubby,tommy (Post 11905967)

Took me good 3minutes to work that one out!! :cry: :lol1:

Proper fickie me initt :thumb:

Guesty 26 December 2016 05:42 PM

My breaks aren't spongey though they work as they should but have a judder

ZANY 26 December 2016 05:53 PM

Try test driving on a empty smooth road or big car park to determine if the discs maybe warped etc, my abs was kicking in too early causing judder when braking hard but after installing a brake stopper kit my pedal is a lot more firm and brakes are much sharper aswell
Just my 20p's worth mate:thumb:

gc8simon 26 December 2016 05:58 PM

Do you feel the judder through the steering wheel or the brake pedal itself?

Guesty 27 December 2016 10:38 AM

Its more like the passenger side you seem to feel it more and ive done it on a smooth road so defo the car not the road it only does it about 50 what does the brake stopper kit consist of pal

littlebit 27 December 2016 11:10 AM

Mine have started to do this and they are only a few months old it also makes the steering shake

Don Clark 27 December 2016 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by Guesty (Post 11906061)
Its more like the passenger side you seem to feel it more and ive done it on a smooth road so defo the car not the road it only does it about 50 what does the brake stopper kit consist of pal

http://www.rallitek.com/15126-thickb...er-stopper.jpg

ZANY 27 December 2016 11:56 AM

Maybe a good idea would be to check balancing on the wheels not very costly this will also rule out any slight buckles and condition of the tyres as well not that costly and give you piece of mind on that side of things, discs usually get warped as well with people keeping there brakes pressed at the lights when they are hot instead of using the parking brake...

8ulldog 28 December 2016 06:52 AM

My hatch eats discs about every 6 months, no idea why. I have had it checked by 2 very respected specialists who have both said that they can not find anything wrong, tried different discs, though every 6 months the front, drivers side disc will warp.

Having looked around on other forums this is not uncommon. A new front set always cures the issue, for a time.

lazscooby 28 December 2016 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by 8ulldog (Post 11906168)
My hatch eats discs about every 6 months, no idea why. I have had it checked by 2 very respected specialists who have both said that they can not find anything wrong, tried different discs, though every 6 months the front, drivers side disc will warp.

Having looked around on other forums this is not uncommon. A new front set always cures the issue, for a time.

Do you always put the same make back on or have you tried a few different manufacturers? Looking to replace my front discs soon. Any recommendations?

fpan 28 December 2016 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by 8ulldog (Post 11906168)
My hatch eats discs about every 6 months, no idea why. I have had it checked by 2 very respected specialists who have both said that they can not find anything wrong, tried different discs, though every 6 months the front, drivers side disc will warp.

Having looked around on other forums this is not uncommon. A new front set always cures the issue, for a time.

Sounds like either a sticky piston or a hub that is not true?

8ulldog 29 December 2016 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by lazscooby (Post 11906179)
Do you always put the same make back on or have you tried a few different manufacturers? Looking to replace my front discs soon. Any recommendations?

I have had a few different brands (All established and recommended). It's possible that there is an issue, though 2 very respected garages have had it in for sometime and have been unable to find the issue, especially as new discs removes the issue for a time.

I am currently using ScoobyWorx discs. if you get to the bottom of it let me know.

Darrell@Scoobyworx 30 December 2016 06:50 PM

When I have had this on a non Subaru as you say new discs removed the issue short term.

After replacing discs twice it was clear that there was another issue.

So replaced wheel bearing and a 3rd set of discs fitted same again after a few months.

So so I changed the hub for a second hand used unit I had and hey presto problem solved 2 years without issue.

I would say either hub or flange issue or possible bearing. Hard to know 100% and checking all parts with a dial gauge may help determin which it is but replace the hub/bearing/flange and new discs and pads and job will be a good un. It's just not cheap that's all.

salsa-king 31 December 2016 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by 8ulldog (Post 11906168)
My hatch eats discs about every 6 months, no idea why. I have had it checked by 2 very respected specialists who have both said that they can not find anything wrong, tried different discs, though every 6 months the front, drivers side disc will warp.

Having looked around on other forums this is not uncommon. A new front set always cures the issue, for a time.


every six months!!! covering how many miles?


don't think mine have ever been changed in 34k miles (well not in the last 5yrs of me owning the 330s)

Guesty 31 December 2016 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by Darrell@Scoobyworx (Post 11906577)
When I have had this on a non Subaru as you say new discs removed the issue short term.

After replacing discs twice it was clear that there was another issue.

So replaced wheel bearing and a 3rd set of discs fitted same again after a few months.

So so I changed the hub for a second hand used unit I had and hey presto problem solved 2 years without issue.

I would say either hub or flange issue or possible bearing. Hard to know 100% and checking all parts with a dial gauge may help determin which it is but replace the hub/bearing/flange and new discs and pads and job will be a good un. It's just not cheap that's all.


This could be my problem as there is also a knock or bearing crunch when going from forward to reverse or vice vers not all the time though sounds like a bike wheel when the bearings gone not got round to investigating yet dont do alot of miles in car only moves every other weekend and thats only around town

8ulldog 01 January 2017 01:13 AM


Originally Posted by salsa-king (Post 11906677)
every six months!!! covering how many miles?


don't think mine have ever been changed in 34k miles (well not in the last 5yrs of me owning the 330s)

I'm averaging about 12,000 miles per year. Roughly every 6000 miles the drivers side front disc will warp. Good call on the other parts, I'll change them next time too.


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