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shaunys_gb270 06 December 2016 07:17 PM

Anti lag
 
How can I get anti lag on my hawkeye gb270 and how much price wise ? Thanks in advance

On-the-bog 06 December 2016 07:21 PM

why do you want it?

WRCT25 06 December 2016 07:34 PM

For the WaaBabBabBabPOPPOPBANGPOPBANGWAbobobobobness

On-the-bog 06 December 2016 07:36 PM

expensive to keep having to rebuild engines to have it eh

WRCT25 06 December 2016 07:42 PM

You must be forgetting about the wobobobobpoppopBANG lol

On-the-bog 06 December 2016 07:42 PM

hahaha

shaunys_gb270 06 December 2016 08:11 PM

Because I want a fast road car and I thought anti lag would make it faster ? Or am I wrong ?

JGlanzaV 06 December 2016 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by shaunys_gb270 (Post 11901183)
Because I want a fast road car and I thought anti lag would make it faster ? Or am I wrong ?

Very wrong.

You cant have proper anti lag on a road car. Only farty poppy nonsense.

WRCT25 06 December 2016 08:14 PM

More responsive , yes , as its on boost the whole time . Not faster as such. Deffo a component killer.

On-the-bog 06 December 2016 08:14 PM

Decat and map is your first step. after that you need to get the engine rebuilt

shaunys_gb270 06 December 2016 08:31 PM

I've got a turbo back exhaust 3" a panel filter. Walbro fuel pump and a remap done

On-the-bog 06 December 2016 08:42 PM

engine rebuild time then

shaunys_gb270 06 December 2016 08:46 PM

Why an engine rebuild ? It runs fine no knocks or funny rumbles from cold or warm I'm scared now ha

On-the-bog 06 December 2016 08:51 PM

At the limit of the 2.5 wrx engine basicly.

and thats ignoring the known issues with ringlands etc

shaunys_gb270 06 December 2016 09:12 PM

Oh right didn't know sooo even though every thing is fine I should get a rebuild ? Sounds odd too me. Even if it popped I'd have to rebuild it anyway wouldn't i ??

On-the-bog 06 December 2016 09:17 PM

depends if you want to go higher up the power level. If your happy with the current power then no need.

shaunys_gb270 06 December 2016 09:20 PM

I see sorry for the questions mate. Ok so I'm after 400 Hp roughly just under is be happy but that's the figure I'm after what do I have to do :)

On-the-bog 06 December 2016 09:23 PM

tis fine, how will you know unless you ask?

The rods and pistons wont do 400 and if your doing that then your into full rebuild territory.

Decent forged pistons, decent rods, decent head studs, decent crank bearings and then build it back up with decent headgaskets and you'll be good for 450bhp. beyond that you will need to look at having the block converted to closed deck.

to hit 400 you'll also need injectors, inlet pipe, turbo, fuel pump, front mount is advisable plus possibly a stand alone ecu.

Your gonna be heading towards 10k to get it there.

shaunys_gb270 06 December 2016 09:33 PM

Only 10k haha Jesus I knew it wouldn't be cheap I had no idea it would cost that much ha

jonnyricer2 06 December 2016 09:45 PM

Then there s clutch gear box headers exhaust etc

BoozyDave 06 December 2016 10:31 PM

You don't need anti lag on a road car :thumb:

The wrx 2.5 is more reliable than the sti 2.5, but it does have [not very] common failure points.

If you want 400bhp, sell it :thumb:
If you are happy with 330-350bhp, you will need turbo, injectors, decat pipes and a remap

Have a look for a forged car with 400bhp and save a small fortune :thumb:

JGlanzaV 06 December 2016 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by WRCT25 (Post 11901187)
More responsive , yes , as its on boost the whole time . Not faster as such. Deffo a component killer.

not more responsive at all....

slower in actial fact when you hit that tree because your servo isnt working!!

Ste333 07 December 2016 08:27 AM

I think perhaps this is just a misunderstanding of "anti lag". As people have said - you can have AL mapped in with certain software (to run on a switch) which is effectively just an ignition cut and creates some pops and bangs. It's quite amusing in a car park (I have it on my car) but in terms of actually driving, it feels horrible and will not add any speed.
Real anti lag (like you see on rally cars and some race cars) isn't just a mapped feature, its actually plumbed in as the cars are developing boost at a standstill and it's actually usable whilst driving. There's some info here, it requires the throttle to be bypassed etc and some hardware changes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antilag_system

But equally, in a road car it will just destroy the lifespan of most components as they're hugely strained. Unless you have a massive budget and are really committed to having it...I wouldn't bother. Just get a decent turbo and a good map (alongside the other supporting mods) and your car will be plenty fast enough for the road.

JGlanzaV 07 December 2016 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by Ste333 (Post 11901315)
I think perhaps this is just a misunderstanding of "anti lag". As people have said - you can have AL mapped in with certain software (to run on a switch) which is effectively just an ignition cut and creates some pops and bangs. It's quite amusing in a car park (I have it on my car) but in terms of actually driving, it feels horrible and will not add any speed.
Real anti lag (like you see on rally cars and some race cars) isn't just a mapped feature, its actually plumbed in as the cars are developing boost at a standstill and it's actually usable whilst driving. There's some info here, it requires the throttle to be bypassed etc and some hardware changes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antilag_system

But equally, in a road car it will just destroy the lifespan of most components as they're hugely strained. Unless you have a massive budget and are really committed to having it...I wouldn't bother. Just get a decent turbo and a good map (alongside the other supporting mods) and your car will be plenty fast enough for the road.

a bigger turbo will likely make you slower on the road too....

its the brakes and suspension that give you a fast road car...

Ste333 07 December 2016 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by JGlanzaV (Post 11901319)
a bigger turbo will likely make you slower on the road too....

its the brakes and suspension that give you a fast road car...

I'd agree with you there. Depends on driving style I suppose :thumb:

cuprajake 07 December 2016 10:53 AM

there was a forged hawk for sale for 9500 iirc

SmurfyBhoy 07 December 2016 01:03 PM

Does real AL not affect brakes too as throttle jacked open ?

JGlanzaV 07 December 2016 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy (Post 11901429)
Does real AL not affect brakes too as throttle jacked open ?


no.

real anti lag will utilise an electric vaccuum pump

On-the-bog 07 December 2016 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy (Post 11901429)
Does real AL not affect brakes too as throttle jacked open ?

Your talking about bodge it AL, which isnt AL :thumb:

Ash Webster 07 December 2016 03:38 PM

http://rallycars.com/Cars/bangbang.html

how antilag works.


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