Electrical socket help....
I have replaced pretty much every socket in the house with these.....
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...db8190365.jpeg The only socket left visible is this one which is for the water pump in the bathroom. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...264edf8e4.jpeg Obviously due to the electrical regs, I can't just swap it for a fused spur which are easily available in the black nickel colour so I want to find one of these which is a least in keeping with the rest of the house. This be my problem. I can't for the life of me find anything which comes close. Any thoughts? |
is there a RCD on the circuit that feeds this pump spur ?
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they do version of those sockets with inbuilt USB ports - pretty handy
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You must check the bonding on every socket. The new socket faces are now metal? If so you must bond from the socket to the back box if that is also metal. 1.5mm2 is all that is required from socket to box, 2.5mm2 is the norm
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11854868)
they do version of those sockets with inbuilt USB ports - pretty handy
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Originally Posted by cookstar
(Post 11854864)
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Originally Posted by royals8088
(Post 11854885)
You must check the bonding on every socket. The new socket faces are now metal? If so you must bond from the socket to the back box if that is also metal. 1.5mm2 is all that is required from socket to box, 2.5mm2 is the norm
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Originally Posted by JDM_Stig
(Post 11854851)
is there a RCD on the circuit that feeds this pump spur ?
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...1d4b2f422.jpeg |
You need a new consumer unit more than posh looking accessories!
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Why is there no rcd for shower/cooker etc?
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+1 above and sooner rather than later.
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Is there an rcd else whether other than the consumer unit. I reckon u could die with a consumer unit change
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Do not die( stupid predictive text)
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Originally Posted by The Pink Ninja
(Post 11854998)
Why is there no rcd for shower/cooker etc?
As for the cooker - none of these switch it off :eek: The cooker is in the extension (built before we moved in) so there could be another consumer unit. Just had a look behind the cooker and there is a big mother of a wire coming from it which disappears into the wall. Tomorrows mission will be to find the end of it :D |
take picture of where the meter is and any other consumer units you have in the extension.
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It might be worth contacting the manufacturers of your metallic sockets (not the suppliers) and seeing if they can help you.
But I suspect that your best bet is going to be to bring the wiring up to modern standards and you may find you don't need the fused spur with the trip any longer. However, I am not an electrician. |
Originally Posted by Brun
(Post 11854989)
Bond????????
I know it sounds like we're being anal but that comsumer unit needs to go. The bright side means you can have the RCD or RCBO in the consumer unit so you can then fit a matching spur. |
Originally Posted by JDM_Stig
(Post 11855046)
take picture of where the meter is and any other consumer units you have in the extension.
No more consumer units in the extension. It looks to me that the big mother of a wire leads straight back to the consumer unit so I guess it goes to the fuse which is behind the plastic cover to the right of the unit :thumb: |
Originally Posted by ALi-B
(Post 11855075)
After looking at the consumer unit, this is even more essential to have a earth wire on the socket face plates.
I know it sounds like we're being anal but that comsumer unit needs to go. The bright side means you can have the RCD or RCBO in the consumer unit so you can then fit a matching spur. |
you need to replace the Consumer Unit asap
If you drill a cable or the lawn mower chews up the extension lead then you have no RCD to trip, you are trusting the overload protection to go to cut the supply, or it keep shocking you, a RCD will disconnect within 4ms so the length of shock is much shorter( if its tested and working!) that Consumer Unit you have installed is a like having drum brakes on a 600 bhp track car imo. |
Originally Posted by JDM_Stig
(Post 11855098)
you need to replace the Consumer Unit asap
If you drill a cable or the lawn mower chews up the extension lead then you have no RCD to trip, you are trusting the overload protection to go to cut the supply, or it keep shocking you, a RCD will disconnect within 4ms so the length of shock is much shorter( if its tested and working!) that Consumer Unit you have installed is a like having drum brakes on a 600 bhp track car imo. |
Please do not take this personally but it is obvious you are not a qualified electrician and are messing with things you do not understand so for your safety and your family please get a qualified electrician.
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You need to get a electrician round to do a zs (earth loop impedance) test to make sure your earth is adequate otherwise if a socket develops a fault it will stay live until someone touches it!!
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Originally Posted by JAY2DRE
(Post 11855121)
You need to get a electrician round to do a zs (earth loop impedance) test to make sure your earth is adequate otherwise if a socket develops a fault it will stay live until someone touches it!!
Originally Posted by johned
(Post 11855110)
Please do not take this personally but it is obvious you are not a qualified electrician and are messing with things you do not understand so for your safety and your family please get a qualified electrician.
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Originally Posted by Brun
(Post 11855131)
Not really messing - replacing a few sockets is my lot although the earth test sounds like a good shout :thumb:
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Originally Posted by Brun
(Post 11855103)
Forgive my lack of knowledge - those breaker things are not rcds?
Rcd's sense an imbalance in the phases and disconnect a lot quicker, As mentioned get a qualified electrician in to change the one you have, They will also check your earthing is all up to date to things like the incoming gas and water. |
Originally Posted by JDM_Stig
(Post 11855153)
No resettable fuses, and very old at that, thesework from thermal overload, so need there to be a short or high current demand to disconnect the supply,
Rcd's sense an imbalance in the phases and disconnect a lot quicker, As mentioned get a qualified electrician in to change the one you have, They will also check your earthing is all up to date to things like the incoming gas and water. |
Don't need any 12v spot lights do you?
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Originally Posted by jaygsi
(Post 11855156)
Don't need any 12v spot lights do you?
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