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pimmo2000 31 May 2016 10:52 AM

The world of Apple
 
So I don't hide it, I think Apple are a disgrace of a company, charging over the top for products made by kids in India/China .. etc, the only upside is the world is full of Apple lovers, so devices hold their value, meaning if you keep them tidy you don't really lose out money wise in the long term. :Suspiciou

Having opted for the iphone for work, I decided to get the watch and fair play it's pretty good. Better than the Android ones I've had. Ok, so I already have a couple of iPads as they are locked down enough for the kids and do what I need and I've just bought Apple TV because again and not to quote the Apple fan boys, but it "just works" .. that said I have my files hosted on a windows monster of a machine which I also use for gaming. No plans to move away from windows, 10 with a 7 skin is rock solid and has yet to cause me any issues.

Next step was a MAC and I'm quite open to technology, not one to fanboy either way, so I bought a Macbook Air .. 2014 model, quite nice, light seems ok, this would be to replace my iPad and give me something more usable in meetings. (my Carbon X1 is good but it's Corp build, so not as clean as I'd like)

Plan was to have all this stuff work together and "simplify" my life and travels.

First issue ;) apps for iphone and ipad don't work on Macs and I need to be able to access "Good" to get to my work emails, else I'm pissing around with Cytrix and VPNs.

Any suggestions?

:wonder:

pimmo2000 31 May 2016 10:54 AM

oh and FYI everything apart from the work funded iPhone was second hand .. I won't buy new or anything from Apple directly, just because the prices are so crazy.

JackClark 31 May 2016 11:11 AM

Fanboy.

SwissTony 31 May 2016 11:16 AM

trying to work out exactly what the issue is here .

As you have found out , apps from the App Store ( for IOS) are different from apps for the mac. Confusingly also caused the app store but for Mac OS.

So I am guessing that you use a certain app on the iPhone to get to your emails as your company does not use Exchange web services or active sync, meaning you can't just access it from your built in mail app ?

JackClark 31 May 2016 11:56 AM

https://community.good.com/docs/DOC-7170

dpb 31 May 2016 12:51 PM

Do you have pay for the Mac apps as well ?!

pimmo2000 31 May 2016 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by SwissTony (Post 11840130)
trying to work out exactly what the issue is here .

As you have found out , apps from the App Store ( for IOS) are different from apps for the mac. Confusingly also caused the app store but for Mac OS.

So I am guessing that you use a certain app on the iPhone to get to your emails as your company does not use Exchange web services or active sync, meaning you can't just access it from your built in mail app ?


Yeah, so the company have locked it all down, so I have to use one of their associated applications, Good being the one I have for my iPad. I use Mobile Iron for the Phone which is great, but I can't use it twice.

Seems daft having apps that only run on certain devices, even windows doesn't do that.

SwissTony 31 May 2016 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by pimmo2000 (Post 11840169)
Yeah, so the company have locked it all down, so I have to use one of their associated applications, Good being the one I have for my iPad. I use Mobile Iron for the Phone which is great, but I can't use it twice.

Seems daft having apps that only run on certain devices, even windows doesn't do that.

well windows mobile and windows itself has always been different beast, shared code but not exactly the same.
Apple do the same, IOS and MacOS have been getting closer and closer over the years but if you think about, it would look bloody awful having a desktop OS on a small device like an iPhone. Man, fat fingers and a small cursor :lol1:

pimmo2000 31 May 2016 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 11840168)
Do you have pay for the Mac apps as well ?!


Same deal, some free some paid, but to be honest the apps for the Mac are as **** as the apps for windows 8 .. wouldn't both with them.

pimmo2000 31 May 2016 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by SwissTony (Post 11840170)
well windows mobile and windows itself has always been different beast, shared code but not exactly the same.
Apple do the same, IOS and MacOS have been getting closer and closer over the years but if you think about, it would look bloody awful having a desktop OS on a small device like an iPhone. Man, fat fingers and a small cursor :lol1:


No I get that, but why cant we have the apps on the Mac that work on the phone and pad?

Screen size is about the same on my mac mini as an ipad.

ccsimpreza 01 June 2016 10:05 AM

You think they are a disgrace of a company, yet you seem to have every bit of apple tech going?

Theres a reason why Apple kit is popular and you said it yourself - "it just works", which is one of the reasons why Apple gear has a high resale value.

And your surprised that two different operating systems for two totally different types of devices do not share apps as a default? - Its the developers choice, they can develop an app that operates the exact same across any device if they felt the need to.

I work in IT supporting 40/60 OSX & Windows in a variety of applications. They both have there pros and cons like anything.

pimmo2000 05 June 2016 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by ccsimpreza (Post 11840473)
You think they are a disgrace of a company, yet you seem to have every bit of apple tech going?

Theres a reason why Apple kit is popular and you said it yourself - "it just works", which is one of the reasons why Apple gear has a high resale value.

And your surprised that two different operating systems for two totally different types of devices do not share apps as a default? - Its the developers choice, they can develop an app that operates the exact same across any device if they felt the need to.

I work in IT supporting 40/60 OSX & Windows in a variety of applications. They both have there pros and cons like anything.

It's not the developers choice, it's the company that chooses to make more money by separating and limiting.

After a week of using a MAC, it's basically a PC for idiots. Nothing technical is easy to do but day to day tasks are there right in front of you. If you just want to get on with doing a set, set of tasks, Apple is great, it works. If you want to do something slightly off track, not a chance. I'm not moving from Windows, I like my PC, I like that when I want to do something I've never done before, I can work out how because options, settings and interfaces are logically set out.

Now I get why Apple has fanboys, it's a certain type of person that feels smarter using a limited and restricted machine, that looks pretty and gives them the illusion they understand. :D

JackClark 05 June 2016 09:08 PM

Restricted? The only restriction on OS X is yourself. I'd love to know what "technical" stuff you found difficult.

Puff The Magic Wagon! 07 June 2016 02:07 PM

All the devs at my company use Macs (software development for a major marketplace platform), totally Mac culture here. In fact, I'm the only person in the office with a Win PC and that's because my predecessor wrote a whole lot of SQL scripts and Excel Macros on a PC that won't work in the Mac versions... Got a Mac for when I'm not needing to do that work though

In fact Excel for Mac is nowhere near as good as the PC version, that is my only complaint but the fault for that lies with Microsoft ;)

fat-thomas 07 June 2016 05:56 PM

poor old tidgy keeps logging on to take a look but wont post since his cry wank about trolling.

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...ow-trolls.html

i bet his twitching seeing an apple thread.

pimmo2000 08 June 2016 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by Puff The Magic Wagon! (Post 11842677)
All the devs at my company use Macs (software development for a major marketplace platform), totally Mac culture here. In fact, I'm the only person in the office with a Win PC and that's because my predecessor wrote a whole lot of SQL scripts and Excel Macros on a PC that won't work in the Mac versions... Got a Mac for when I'm not needing to do that work though

In fact Excel for Mac is nowhere near as good as the PC version, that is my only complaint but the fault for that lies with Microsoft ;)

Same where I work, there is no desire to change anything on the MAC so it does as they need it to. TBH the pretty looks are a big part of it too and the "cool" factor". All have PCs at home though.



Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11842791)
poor old tidgy keeps logging on to take a look but wont post since his cry wank about trolling.

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...ow-trolls.html

i bet his twitching seeing an apple thread.

:D

JackClark 08 June 2016 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by pimmo2000 (Post 11842987)
Same where I work, there is no desire to change anything on the MAC so it does as they need it to. TBH the pretty looks are a big part of it too and the "cool" factor". All have PCs at home though.
:D

Seems legit, Cool, Pretty machine in the office, PC at home so you change 'things'. Either that or you have no clue.


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