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96sti 04 December 2015 05:56 PM

where do I stand.
 
I have done a bathroom install in a landlords property. 1st time I have dealt with him he lives in Coventry I live in kent.

So last week I installed the suite he paid for the suite by transferring the funds to my account so I could then go and get the suite from b&q.

I carried the work out and completed the job I have invoiced him and now there's no correspondence from him I have rang. Emailed and even text. He isn't replying atal. He owes me £840 pounds it's not thousands but it's principle to me I done the work I should get paid.

So what do I do now

LSherratt 04 December 2015 06:09 PM

Do you have anything in writing saying that he will pay for your labour/install? If you do then write back to him and tell him you will be taking the money out of the rent you pay.

donny andi 04 December 2015 06:11 PM

Had it a few times pal off dodgy landlords...it won't happen again .
You can either persue him through small claims, take it on the chin or damage his property.
I went for option 3 a couple of times....make sure you have a alibi :)

Once it's fitted it's his property , 5hit I know but that's the way it is.
Is the house empty? , do you have keys still?
If it's empty nip round put the plugs in and get the taps on full whack .
Chemical metal is good in the door locks.
Small hole in soil pipe and get pumping expanding foam in.

I could go on all night on what (not) to do to cost him 10 times what his bill is :thumb:

96sti 04 December 2015 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by LSherratt (Post 11768248)
Do you have anything in writing saying that he will pay for your labour/install? If you do then write back to him and tell him you will be taking the money out of the rent you pay.

It's not my property I don't live there so can't take it out of the rent

96sti 04 December 2015 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by donny andi (Post 11768250)
Had it a few times pal off dodgy landlords...it won't happen again .
You can either persue him through small claims, take it on the chin or damage his property.
I went for option 3 a couple of times....make sure you have a alibi :)

Once it's fitted it's his property , 5hit I know but that's the way it is.
Is the house empty? , do you have keys still?
If it's empty nip round put the plugs in and get the taps on full whack .
Chemical metal is good in the door locks.
Small hole in soil pipe and get pumping expanding foam in.

I could go on all night on what (not) to do to cost him 10 times what his bill is :thumb:

Haha as much as I'm annoyed I don't want to make matters worse. No the property is not empty. Tennant lives there and she's disabled. I have thought about taking the suite back out but it's not fair on the tennant and I would feel guilty for leaving her with nothing

donny andi 04 December 2015 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by 96sti (Post 11768257)
Haha as much as I'm annoyed I don't want to make matters worse. No the property is not empty. Tennant lives there and she's disabled. I have thought about taking the suite back out but it's not fair on the tennant and I would feel guilty for leaving her with nothing

Can't take it back out pal , did you do it via the estate agent as I've had them take it out of the rent pot kind of thing.
If direct through landlord it's either court or on the chin pal :mad:

96sti 04 December 2015 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by donny andi (Post 11768261)
Can't take it back out pal , did you do it via the estate agent as I've had them take it out of the rent pot kind of thing.
If direct through landlord it's either court or on the chin pal :mad:

Direct with the landlord. I will give him another week if no response I'll take matters further

donny andi 04 December 2015 06:41 PM

Cnuts pal , they know once it's fitted it's there's .
I take it all up front when I don't know or trust them nowadays

96sti 04 December 2015 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by donny andi (Post 11768265)
Cnuts pal , they know once it's fitted it's there's .
I take it all up front when I don't know or trust them nowadays

I no mate it was through rated people.com as well won't be using them again either

JDM_Stig 04 December 2015 06:52 PM

on my invoices the materials are still my property until the outstanding invoice is paid in full.

donny andi 04 December 2015 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by JDM_Stig (Post 11768274)
on my invoices the materials are still my property until the outstanding invoice is paid in full.

Irrelevant once fitted , you have no rights trying to remove the goods

JDM_Stig 04 December 2015 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by donny andi (Post 11768311)
Irrelevant once fitted , you have no rights trying to remove the goods

Well it has never stopped me returning on 2 occasions to remove goods installed by myself, the police were called on one occasion and I was given permission to carry on as I had informed the customer via the invoice,
so it worked for me.

:thumb:

BoozyDave 04 December 2015 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by donny andi (Post 11768311)
Irrelevant once fitted , you have no rights trying to remove the goods

I wired a couple of care homes, all the sockets/lights, fire alarm, door access and nurse call systems. On the last one they kept holding back on payment (£64,000), it was still empty, but residents were moving in the day after. We decided to remove all easily removeable stuff (fire alarm heads and panels, nurse call points, paxton door access pcb's), we were running around removing stuff and getting it in vans and off site and nobody noticed us :lol1: even when I was removing the main fire panel in the reception the site manager asked my what I was doing, I replied 'it's faulty I need to fit a replacement so they can commission the lifts' he said 'Nice one Dave, you don't hang about!' :lol1:

The equiptment was sold for over £40k, it cost them over £100k to sort everything out (including lost money from residents), the police couldn't touch us because it was in the contract :thumb:

salsa-king 04 December 2015 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by 96sti (Post 11768243)
I have done a bathroom install in a landlords property. 1st time I have dealt with him he lives in Coventry I live in kent.

So last week I installed the suite he paid for the suite by transferring the funds to my account so I could then go and get the suite from b&q.

I carried the work out and completed the job I have invoiced him and now there's no correspondence from him I have rang. Emailed and even text. He isn't replying atal. He owes me £840 pounds it's not thousands but it's principle to me I done the work I should get paid.

So what do I do now



how did you get the job, how was it left about payment and did you send him a written quote?

Dirk Diggler 75 04 December 2015 10:49 PM

Rip the bathroom suite out and sell it.........simples

gpssti4 04 December 2015 11:51 PM

Small claims court. It's easy and you're almost certain to win. About an hour or two of your time filling in forms etc and then a hour in court. You can claim travel and time off work too. I've done it twice and won both times.

Jamo 05 December 2015 09:07 AM

I'd just go and take it out.

wrx300scooby 05 December 2015 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by Jamo (Post 11768433)
I'd just go and take it out.

A bit rough on the disabled lady who is living there.

neil-h 05 December 2015 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by donny andi (Post 11768265)
Cnuts pal , they know once it's fitted it's there's .
I take it all up front when I don't know or trust them nowadays

It is the landlords in the first place, the hardware was paid for in advance.

johned 05 December 2015 07:25 PM

I find it sad that this kind of thing seems to be the norm these days and that you cannot trust anyone so thats probably why i am a cynical when it comes to people as they do the talk then i suppose they think it is clever when they do not pay the bill but sadly it can break a small business or a self employed person through no fault of their own.

donny andi 05 December 2015 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by johned (Post 11768574)
I find it sad that this kind of thing seems to be the norm these days and that you cannot trust anyone so thats probably why i am a cynical when it comes to people as they do the talk then i suppose they think it is clever when they do not pay the bill but sadly it can break a small business or a self employed person through no fault of their own.

I'm only a small outfit buddy me and 1 or 2 labourers , 2013/2014 I lost 11k due to being shafted over .
I bit my lip as the other firm closed down (hasn't re opened so was genuine) , I thought it wouldn't hurt to much but fcuk me it certainly did , I lost count on the amount of weekends I worked on my own just to pay bills as normal :mad:

It will never happen again

johned 05 December 2015 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by donny andi (Post 11768583)
I'm only a small outfit buddy me and 1 or 2 labourers , 2013/2014 I lost 11k due to being shafted over .
I bit my lip as the other firm closed down (hasn't re opened so was genuine) , I thought it wouldn't hurt to much but fcuk me it certainly did , I lost count on the amount of weekends I worked on my own just to pay bills as normal :mad:

It will never happen again

Sorry to hear what you have gone through and confirm my lack of trust in people and hope things are better for you now.

Fuzz 05 December 2015 10:42 PM

EDIT** Cancel that, he paid for the bathroom. Therefore you're left with the below really...

However being as that is not the best option because it's rented to a disabled person,
Go straight to https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/web/mcol/welcome and fill in alllllll the details and pay your fee. DONE.

chocolate_o_brian 06 December 2015 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by donny andi (Post 11768250)
Had it a few times pal off dodgy landlords...it won't happen again .
You can either persue him through small claims, take it on the chin or damage his property.
I went for option 3 a couple of times....make sure you have a alibi :)

Once it's fitted it's his property , 5hit I know but that's the way it is.
Is the house empty? , do you have keys still?
If it's empty nip round put the plugs in and get the taps on full whack .
Chemical metal is good in the door locks.
Small hole in soil pipe and get pumping expanding foam in.

I could go on all night on what (not) to do to cost him 10 times what his bill is :thumb:

I love your work :D

chocolate_o_brian 06 December 2015 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by gpssti4 (Post 11768412)
Small claims court. It's easy and you're almost certain to win. About an hour or two of your time filling in forms etc and then a hour in court. You can claim travel and time off work too. I've done it twice and won both times.

Now either I've missed something Graham, or you never updated your thread about the last parking incident. You naughty man :lol1:

Also, I haven't got your number to text you awful jokes!

96sti 06 December 2015 10:44 AM

Finally he's made contact he's going to sorted payment early this week so looks like I will have to waited and see

taylor85 06 December 2015 11:02 AM

Yeah was gonna say it's only been week ! If you work for some companies it's 90 days till you get paid

96sti 06 December 2015 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by taylor85 (Post 11768763)
Yeah was gonna say it's only been week ! If you work for some companies it's 90 days till you get paid

Granted but to hear sweet f... all tad worrying

taylor85 06 December 2015 02:35 PM

Yeah I bet !


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