Government - Secret files
I would love to know just how high this goes and who's all involved, I'm guessing there's some pretty 'special' people on this list.
http://news.sky.com/story/1422138/go...f-secret-files |
It's jawdropping isn't it? Why are we letting them get away with this? People just don't give a sh1t about anything other than celebrity culture and soap operas these days. This sort of behaviour has toppled governments in the past. It's bloody disgusting frankly!
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what happens if they have someones name in them? who has not been found guilty of any crime.
the amount of assumed guilt just because your named in the press nowadays is staggering People are innocent untill proven guilty, unlike what the press seem to do now adays. |
You're missing the point. If the names are released then the public can at least track how they are used and what becomes of them which they have a right to do. They do not have a right to read their content and that is not what this is about.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
(Post 11621554)
It's jawdropping isn't it? Why are we letting them get away with this? People just don't give a sh1t about anything other than celebrity culture and soap operas these days. This sort of behaviour has toppled governments in the past. It's bloody disgusting frankly!
If these components can be controlled at a young age, then a persons identity can be manipulated and changed, simply put,,,,,,,,it's regulation of individuals physical reality. Is it a far stretch to equate government controlled schooling with mind control? Then the Mass media takes control, mass media is the most powerful tool (post school)used by the ruling class to manipulate the masses,it shapes and molds opinions and attitudes and ultimately defines what is normal and acceptable in every day lives. We are in one word sheeple, we don't know this because we are programmed not too from an infant age, our life is one big lie. |
Originally Posted by f1_fan
(Post 11621565)
You're missing the point. If the names are released then the public can at least track how they are used and what becomes of them which they have a right to do. They do not have a right to read their content and that is not what this is about.
accused and acuser should not be named in the press untill the trial, end of, this is all assuming thats what the file names contain of course. Hypertheticly if it was you who were named, would you want putting to the press without charge or guilt being found? |
Originally Posted by Tidgy
(Post 11621591)
and stone them to death before a trial. If people presumed they are innocent untill proven guilty then fine, but they don't in todays society, they just presume they are guilty by association now adays.
accused and acuser should not be named in the press untill the trial, end of, this is all assuming thats what the file names contain of course. Hypertheticly if it was you who were named, would you want putting to the press without charge or guilt being found? Don't you think the names 'just might' be hidden because they actually are guilty, there's something pretty big and sinister going on at Westminster with all of this IMO.. |
I think they have something to hide they were very quick to publish the names of Ex DJ's and 80 year old tv artists but if your a member of the establishment then your name is kept secret
I do think they are scared of the back lash when we find out how bad this cover up is and that is why they are delaying it until after the eection in case we vote the big parties out |
Originally Posted by Tidgy
(Post 11621591)
and stone them to death before a trial. If people presumed they are innocent untill proven guilty then fine, but they don't in todays society, they just presume they are guilty by association now adays.
accused and acuser should not be named in the press untill the trial, end of, this is all assuming thats what the file names contain of course. Hypertheticly if it was you who were named, would you want putting to the press without charge or guilt being found? |
Funny how the one in Rotherham is causing such a stink, but this one isn't......
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Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 11622279)
Funny how the one in Rotherham is causing such a stink, but this one isn't......
http://news.sky.com/story/1422694/ro...policeman-dies Coincidence? |
I wonder if theres any Lords on the list ??
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Goes right to the top accidental death of a cop lol :brickwall
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
(Post 11622688)
Speaking of Rotherham, guess what.
http://news.sky.com/story/1422694/ro...policeman-dies Coincidence? Admittedly I haven't exactly searched it out, but were details of the car/driver released? Like they do in the local paper generally? |
Originally Posted by RA Dunk
(Post 11622688)
Speaking of Rotherham, guess what.
http://news.sky.com/story/1422694/ro...policeman-dies Coincidence? |
Haven't seen any details of the driver.......
Very odd. What worries me is that these sorts of goings on are becoming more and more blatant...yet what can we do? |
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 11623081)
Haven't seen any details of the driver.......
Very odd. What worries me is that these sorts of goings on are becoming more and more blatant...yet what can we do? |
Even if this wasn't a straight-up accident, it's still a long jump to say he was hushed-up by someone official. It could just as easily have been someone acting alone who wanted to shut him up, or an ex-victim who was ignored when he/she made a complaint to the police and then decided to get some pay-back, or even an ex- or current criminal who he'd help put away or (double-crossed in some way) and decided to do the same.
Being a cop, and especially as seems to be the case here, a cop with a bit of a shady side, always paints a target on your back. |
Originally Posted by RA Dunk
(Post 11622026)
Don't you think the names 'just might' be hidden because they actually are guilty, there's something pretty big and sinister going on at Westminster with all of this IMO..
your presuming their guilty because they are being hidden. Untill they are found guilty in a court of law they have a right annonimaty. What yoru saying in effect is anyone accused should be named. |
What has the death of a bent copper (in a car accident) who was under investigation over inappropriate links with (Rotherham) abuse victims
Got to do with files, that may or may not expose high ranking establishment figures in historic child sex abuse in the 70/80 and 90's |
We can't tell you...it's a secret!
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some common themes of the government department involved kicking the damning report into the long grass for both rotherham and the one for the establishment hoping it will go away
the death of involved people like Leon Britian and the police officer means less people to spill the secrets |
So the police have covered up certain things to do with the Royals in the Savile report, can't say I'm surprised TBH...
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...iew-transcript |
Originally Posted by RA Dunk
(Post 11640493)
So the police have covered up certain things to do with the Royals in the Savile report, can't say I'm surprised TBH...
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...iew-transcript "Today we can reveal the documents had been vetted by Buckingham Palace - and that the serial sex attacker's royal connections were removed." Not a Royal then? |
Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
(Post 11640541)
"Today we can reveal the documents had been vetted by Buckingham Palace - and that the serial sex attacker's royal connections were removed."
Not a Royal then? |
The royal thing could be something or just as easily nothing. JS was basically Mr Charity, and with the access this gave him to the great and good in virtually every walk of life, it would probably be very easy for him to name-drop and spin off a few a tales about Royals or other celebs and make it sound pretty convincing. Whether any of it was actually true or not, well that's another story.
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
(Post 11640558)
Couldn't care either way about them TBH, I'm not anti Royal but not deffo not a Royal either. I'm more interested in all of the covering up of certain things that's been going on than anything else. I would love to know half of it! :lol1:
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11640714)
Comprehension failure?
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Originally Posted by stipete75
(Post 11621588)
People(the masses) are programmed this way from birth right through school, in school we are taught the key elements that are required to control us........Behaviour, Information,Dependancy,Obediency,Permission,Though ts,Emotions to name a few. Individualism is discouraged as being selfish,,group think prevails.
If these components can be controlled at a young age, then a persons identity can be manipulated and changed, simply put,,,,,,,,it's regulation of individuals physical reality. Is it a far stretch to equate government controlled schooling with mind control? Then the Mass media takes control, mass media is the most powerful tool (post school)used by the ruling class to manipulate the masses,it shapes and molds opinions and attitudes and ultimately defines what is normal and acceptable in every day lives. We are in one word sheeple, we don't know this because we are programmed not too from an infant age, our life is one big lie. I like to look what's under the radar. 😃 |
Originally Posted by stipete75
(Post 11621588)
People(the masses) are programmed this way from birth right through school, in school we are taught the key elements that are required to control us........Behaviour, Information,Dependancy,Obediency,Permission,Though ts,Emotions to name a few. Individualism is discouraged as being selfish,,group think prevails.
If these components can be controlled at a young age, then a persons identity can be manipulated and changed, simply put,,,,,,,,it's regulation of individuals physical reality. Is it a far stretch to equate government controlled schooling with mind control? Then the Mass media takes control, mass media is the most powerful tool (post school)used by the ruling class to manipulate the masses,it shapes and molds opinions and attitudes and ultimately defines what is normal and acceptable in every day lives. We are in one word sheeple, we don't know this because we are programmed not too from an infant age, our life is one big lie. http://i62.tinypic.com/25znic3.jpg |
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