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stevebt 06 December 2014 09:19 PM

sick to death of work
 
It's one of the most hectic times for work in the housing industry at the moment, I plaster houses for Persimmon homes and last Saturday I started a 5 bedroomed house which I completed today.


Thy put plumbers in the house today and joiners in the house on Friday.


I'm a 1 person team as in I work on my own and I'm due to start a similar sized house on Monday, I have been hassled that much in the house I have just completed that I have been starting at 7am and finishing at 4.30pm which is hard work in this light.




I'm going to be hassled so much in the next house as the laughable thing is I won't complete the house till the 15th of December and someone wants to be living in tis house for chrimbo


Just to add I don't just plaster the houses I do the boarding as well so I have 8 days to do a 9x9m bare shell house in winter time :D but they will want me to do it in 6 :(




I'm just so sick of work roll on chrimbo :D Rant over :D

fat-thomas 06 December 2014 09:20 PM

im being made redundant at xmas i cant bloody wait

bustaMOVEs 06 December 2014 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11576245)
im being made redundant at xmas i cant bloody wait

Oh no full time forum stalking.

RA Dunk 06 December 2014 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by stevebt (Post 11576242)
It's one of the most hectic times for work in the housing industry at the moment, I plaster houses for Persimmon homes and last Saturday I started a 5 bedroomed house which I completed today.


Thy put plumbers in the house today and joiners in the house on Friday.


I'm a 1 person team as in I work on my own and I'm due to start a similar sized house on Monday, I have been hassled that much in the house I have just completed that I have been starting at 7am and finishing at 4.30pm which is hard work in this light.




I'm going to be hassled so much in the next house as the laughable thing is I won't complete the house till the 15th of December and someone wants to be living in tis house for chrimbo


Just to add I don't just plaster the houses I do the boarding as well so I have 8 days to do a 9x9m bare shell house in winter time :D but they will want me to do it in 6 :(




I'm just so sick of work roll on chrimbo :D Rant over :D

I'm the same but it's mostly the HSE side of it I'm sick to the back teeth off. :(

Dirk Diggler 75 06 December 2014 09:29 PM

Just take a deep breath and be thankful that you have plenty of work....
Merry Christmas ....

fat-thomas 06 December 2014 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11576247)
Oh no full time forum stalking.

i used to do most of it at work anyway:thumb:

stevebt 06 December 2014 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler 75 (Post 11576251)
Just take a deep breath and be thankful that you have plenty of work....
Merry Christmas ....



I will always have plenty of work due to the prices they pay and how quick I work.


Oops I forgot plus my standard of work ;)


Two more weeks then I'm off for 17days :D :D

Dave Y 06 December 2014 09:39 PM

i am working xmas eve then two days off.

jayallen 06 December 2014 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by stevebt (Post 11576242)
It's one of the most hectic times for work in the housing industry at the moment, I plaster houses for Persimmon homes and last Saturday I started a 5 bedroomed house which I completed today.


Thy put plumbers in the house today and joiners in the house on Friday.


I'm a 1 person team as in I work on my own and I'm due to start a similar sized house on Monday, I have been hassled that much in the house I have just completed that I have been starting at 7am and finishing at 4.30pm which is hard work in this light.




I'm going to be hassled so much in the next house as the laughable thing is I won't complete the house till the 15th of December and someone wants to be living in tis house for chrimbo


Just to add I don't just plaster the houses I do the boarding as well so I have 8 days to do a 9x9m bare shell house in winter time :D but they will want me to do it in 6 :(




I'm just so sick of work roll on chrimbo :D Rant over :D

I get hassled on site all year round not just at Xmas! I install lifts for a living and from the first day of installation i get asked when i can get the doors in because they can't finish the hall ways until they are.

Blue by You 06 December 2014 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11576258)
i used to do most of it at work anyway:thumb:

I thought (forum) stalking was your work :D

sivo 06 December 2014 09:55 PM

7-4.30....... 17 days off....... :luvlove:

I'm a heavy goods driver and doing 65hrs a week at the moment with 1 or 2 nights out, I can start at 4am and not get home till half 7-8 some days.

I get 2 days off for Xmas

Maybe I should look at retraining as a plasterer !

:wonder:..... Lol

Siv :thumb:

fat-thomas 06 December 2014 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Blue by You (Post 11576279)
I thought (forum) stalking was your work :D

so did my work probably hence we have parted company:lol1:

hodgy0_2 06 December 2014 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by jayallen (Post 11576274)
I get hassled on site all year round not just at Xmas! I install lifts for a living and from the first day of installation i get asked when i can get the doors in because they can't finish the hall ways until they are.

Bit up an down I suppose

ALi-B 06 December 2014 09:57 PM

Don't start. I've got plenty of work, but the business makes no money. So many things wrong with the way the business is run, the overheads, the inter-family bickering etc. I'm not in charge so I just have to put up with it.

I could walk away tomorrow and go back to driving desks doing what I did before. But I get cabin fever working from home, even a few days off stuck in the house has me climbing the walls, the fact I feel trapped into having to deal with this house and everything thats wrong/needs doing to it is bad enough. I've actually got to a point now that I've nearly got to a point that if I spend anymore, I won't get it back if I sell up due to price ceiling on property value in this area.

I'm done with it. F**k it. Now I just want to flatten the place, level the ground and plonk a nice caravan on there with a big insulated shed for my cars and bikes.

The plastering is OK, but that's about it :lol1:

(ignoring the studded wall where the shower leaked...insurance still in dispute - they'll only pay to re-tile one wall in non-matching tiles :cuckoo: :facepalm: :cry: )

Steve - do you get on with plumbers? I think I've come to a conclusion that many of them seem to be a law onto their own or just plainly awkward if they can't have their own way (even when the plans clearly state how something should be done).

stevebt 06 December 2014 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by jayallen (Post 11576274)
I get hassled on site all year round not just at Xmas! I install lifts for a living and from the first day of installation i get asked when i can get the doors in because they can't finish the hall ways until they are.





Yours is different to mine as you can take your time and its ok as you will be working on set times to each job.


I get this sort of grief as well but my complaint is I'm getting hassled for a house I haven't started as the people want to b in it for xmas and it will take me 8 days from Monday.


What will happen is the people will probably move in on the 24th December put their lights on and complain about the quality of the house but no matter who is at fault it is always the plaster or the painter that is at fault.


Houses are done in the dark at this time of the year as its dark all day so trying to turn out quality in pitch black is very hard add cold weather which makes slow setting plaster and I'm slower than in summer months :)

ditchmyster 06 December 2014 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11576258)
i used to do most of it at work anyway:thumb:

No surprise they're getting rid of you then.:lol1:

Carnut 06 December 2014 10:13 PM

Get yourselves jobs that you love. I used to be a dairy farmer working 80-90 hours a week and would go for months with no day off and didn't take any holidays for about 5 years but i would do ANYTHING to have it back.

fat-thomas 06 December 2014 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by ditchmyster (Post 11576291)
No surprise they're getting rid of you then.:lol1:

im taking voluntary redundancy. going to spend it on a wrx and race for pink slips at santa pod:lol1:

stevebt 06 December 2014 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by ALi-B (Post 11576286)

Steve - do you get on with plumbers? I think I've come to a conclusion that many of them seem to be a law onto their own or just plainly awkward if they can't have their own way (even when the plans clearly state how something should be done).





Plumbers who do work solely in the private trade are proper greedy feckers, the people who work on the buildings have a respect for a true price and don't over charge.


The plumber who started my house today was a little peeved all the window walls weren't finished and all the bathrooms but when people are put in a house two days before you say you will be complete you have to decide which trade you can give the most work and I decided the joiners :D




A friend is a proper odd jobs man and he complained at me 3 years ago that people thought he was charging too much at £750 for changing a bathroom suite. I asked two proper plumbers on site what they would charge and was told £350 so my mate was taking the pee.


He also asks me for plastering advice so I know he is doing that, I haven't seen his work but from the time he has been doing it it can't be good.


In my experience of doing work in the private sector is you can make a right mess (not me) and they are ok but in a new build build house if there is a brush mark around a socket or a couple of scratches in the walls and the house is a disgrace!


The things I have saw people complain about is laughable and if it happened/does happen in the private sector they would just be ignored!

tony de wonderful 06 December 2014 10:40 PM

11 more day then 3 weeks off!

bustaMOVEs 06 December 2014 10:45 PM

I start around 7ish and home by 2-4pm happy days
My motto is, leave your work problems at work and when finished work change motto. Works for me well. I'm always happy.

ALi-B 06 December 2014 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by stevebt (Post 11576304)
Plumbers who do work solely in the private trade are proper greedy feckers, the people who work on the buildings have a respect for a true price and don't over charge.


The plumber who started my house today was a little peeved all the window walls weren't finished and all the bathrooms but when people are put in a house two days before you say you will be complete you have to decide which trade you can give the most work and I decided the joiners :D




A friend is a proper odd jobs man and he complained at me 3 years ago that people thought he was charging too much at £750 for changing a bathroom suite. I asked two proper plumbers on site what they would charge and was told £350 so my mate was taking the pee.


He also asks me for plastering advice so I know he is doing that, I haven't seen his work but from the time he has been doing it it can't be good.


In my experience of doing work in the private sector is you can make a right mess (not me) and they are ok but in a new build build house if there is a brush mark around a socket or a couple of scratches in the walls and the house is a disgrace!


The things I have saw people complain about is laughable and if it happened/does happen in the private sector they would just be ignored!


You've got a good point here.

Basically I've got a new extension built, and on the whole the new bit is mostly OK - its all on plan and its new so should look and work like new, alot of my issues stem from how the new interfaces with the old and whats here before with people bodging on to it in a attempt to make it work.

My attitude is if its not right, rip it out and start again. I've said this all along, I can budget for it, as to me having it done, looking and working right trumps everything. Trying to get that mantra across though has been very hard work. Some seem to think if they can hind it behind the plaster or floors I won't notice; The problem is I do notice. If I were a site foreman I wouldn't get the brush off as I do as a home owner.

So obviously when I see new pipes being run on the surface with plans to box them in, of which with a bit of extra time and thinking actually don't even need to be there at all and could actually reduce the overall amount of plumbing. I'm immediately thinking corner cutting, bodging on a existing bodge. Its not wrong per-se, but given a clean sheet it wouldn't have been done like that.

Now I have a Pseudomonas risk in the drinking water from dead-leg pipes (and drinking water pipes being heated by adjacent heating pipes)....and the plumber is like "Pseudo-what?...just run the tap for a bit, it'll be OK" :mad:

At least I have a electrician on my wave length now, unfortunately he's the second one and he's had a right game putting things right as the first sparky got well out of his depth.....sadly the plaster had already been and gone before this was found out :facepalm:

tony de wonderful 06 December 2014 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by ALi-B (Post 11576345)
Now I have a Pseudomonas risk in the drinking water from dead-leg pipes (and drinking water pipes being heated by adjacent heating pipes)....and the plumber is like "Pseudo-what?...just run the tap for a bit, it'll be OK" :mad:

What? The water infrastructure doesn't pipe fresh Evian through medical grade sterile pipes to your house anyway you know?

kingofturds 06 December 2014 11:52 PM

Jack it all in for life on the rock n roll. Cheap lidl lager and pot noodles 24/7. Living the dream !

ALi-B 06 December 2014 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by tony de wonderful (Post 11576363)
What? The water infrastructure doesn't pipe fresh Evian through medical grade sterile pipes to your house anyway you know?


OK, given this situation: Building works, stuff is moved, floors are up, ceilings are down pipes are exposed etc.

You have approx 4 metres of cold water pipe that is now redundant.

Do you

a) cap it off with it still connected to the mains supply all in situ and hide it away under floor and boxing it in up the walls. Leaving it pressurised and full of water to stagnate.

b) Locate and disconnect it where the Tee joins on the mains supply. Replace Tee with a straight joiner. Lave the disconnected pipes in situ still with the unnecessary boxing on a newly plastered wall.

c) Do as per b) and remove the unused pipe. No boxing required as the pipe isn't there.


I wanted c)....I got a)

Why would I want to make my water worse when I can avoid it? And why would I want boxed in pipework when it also can be avoided?

DARB 07 December 2014 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by sivo (Post 11576281)
7-4.30....... 17 days off....... :luvlove:

I'm a heavy goods driver and doing 65hrs

Gotta love POA :lol1:

DYK 07 December 2014 03:24 AM


Originally Posted by sivo (Post 11576281)
7-4.30....... 17 days off....... :luvlove:

I'm a heavy goods driver and doing 65hrs a week at the moment with 1 or 2 nights out, I can start at 4am and not get home till half 7-8 some days.

I get 2 days off for Xmas

Maybe I should look at retraining as a plasterer !

:wonder:..... Lol

Siv :thumb:

Why only two days. Twelve more days and two weeks off,oh and I just laughed and walked out the office when asked,are you doing cpc christmas. :-)

Dingdongler 07 December 2014 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by Carnut (Post 11576294)
Get yourselves jobs that you love. I used to be a dairy farmer working 80-90 hours a week and would go for months with no day off and didn't take any holidays for about 5 years but i would do ANYTHING to have it back.


No point crying over spilt milk.....

Dingdongler 07 December 2014 07:12 AM

Steve, if you can single handed overboard and skim all the walls and ceilings in a small house in eight days I'm bloody impressed!

I wish I could find somebody who could work like that in London.

Sounds like you deserve your time off, enjoy it.

Carnut 07 December 2014 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by Dingdongler (Post 11576429)
No point crying over spilt milk.....

That's not the point, I'm saying that you only live once and you shouldn't waste it doing something that doesn't make you happy.


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