cycling 2 abreast
Whilst cycling with my mate over the weekend I have for the first time received abuse and horn pipping whilst out cycling.
The law is clear that riding two abreast is lawful and regarded safer than single file. Why can't drivers have some tolerance, wait a few seconds for a safe overtaking moment, instead of harassing, shouting abuse? Maybe it's time to invest in a go pro and start reporting aggressive abusive drivers? |
it's indeed legal
what pisses me off as a driver is cyclists riding just outside of a provided cycle lane or whipping out of it to go wrong side of an island |
Apparently someone on here got hit by his neighbors car on purpose and the police wouldnt do anything about that so for someone to shout something at you i think you will be wasting your time , cyclists riding 2 abreast holding me up really does my head in though
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Originally Posted by angel1368
(Post 11526747)
Apparently someone on here got hit by his neighbors car on purpose and the police wouldnt do anything about that so for someone to shout something at you i think you will be wasting your time , cyclists riding 2 abreast holding me up really does my head in though
Or would you slow down keep a safe distance and pass slowly? Would you pip your horn against a young child and a parent cycling? |
i dont beep or shout abuse at all mate, i slow right down curse under my breathe then wait till its safe to overtake
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Originally Posted by angel1368
(Post 11526755)
i dont beep or shout abuse at all mate, i slow right down curse under my breathe then wait till its safe to overtake
I agree it can be frustrating to wait for slower traffic, tolerance is the key for the more vulnerable road users:) |
It isn't illegal, but it isn't the done thing either.
Plenty of room for both cars and bikes on the road, if they help each other out. |
Originally Posted by andy97
(Post 11526754)
So would you pip your horn and shout abuse at a rider of a horse?
Would you pip your horn against a young child and a parent cycling? Always, and I make sure the anti-lag spits fire and loud explosions from the exhaust as I pass too. Never fails to impress them, especially the horse :D |
Two abreast is usually fine, it's the 5 abreast that takes the p1ss, as do the two abreast horsey types, oh and clear your sh1t up after you, you'd expect dog owners to do the same in the park.
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It's a good job the horn beeper wasn't anywhere near me at the weekend, I did a sportive and there were 358 of us :lol1:
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Originally Posted by nik52wrx
(Post 11526792)
It's a good job the horn beeper wasn't anywhere near me at the weekend, I did a sportive and there were 358 of us :lol1:
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
(Post 11526777)
Two abreast is usually fine, it's the 5 abreast that takes the p1ss, as do the two abreast horsey types, oh and clear your sh1t up after you, you'd expect dog owners to do the same in the park.
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Whilst its legal, however on some roads its not very considerate either.
Bit like caravaners (or slow drivers) that refuse to pull over to allow faster traffic to pass; despite a huge queue of traffic behind them and safe places to pull over.. |
It used to be common courtesy when I was training to go single file if traffic was being held up or on narrow roads.
If the group is too large then split up to give cars a gap to get into. Seems that this is forgotten nowadays as wannabe Wiggos think it should be full peloton style is the only way to go. |
Originally Posted by ALi-B
(Post 11526811)
Whilst its legal, however on some roads its not very considerate either.
Bit like caravaners (or slow drivers) that refuse to pull over to allow faster traffic to pass; despite a huge queue of traffic behind them and safe places to pull over.. |
Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
(Post 11526777)
oh and clear your sh1t up after you, you'd expect dog owners to do the same in the park.
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Originally Posted by riiidaa
(Post 11526744)
it's indeed legal
what pisses me off as a driver is cyclists riding just outside of a provided cycle lane or whipping out of it to go wrong side of an island If I'm in a 2 lane road, I will ride in the middle of the inside lane - if you want to overtake, move to the outer lane. I refuse to be forced into the curb where it is more dangerous for me. On the other hand, I am courteous to other road users and will pull over once I've passed a parked vehicle or obstacle. Its not worth getting stressed over a cyclist riding defensively when their average speed is higher than yours anyway. |
Originally Posted by *matthewturb2000*
(Post 11526806)
I always wondered how they can justify 1000£ fine for dog poo on pavement, but a mound of horse crap in the road is fine, surely if a motorbike hit a big pile of poo in the wet it would be dangerous??
whereas horsh1te, if mixed with good quality long grain rice, and drizzled with extra virgin olive oil together with thin slices of parmigiano reggiano makes for a great antipasto |
I've been into cycling for years, but cyclists riding two abreast annoy the hell out of me. It always used to be the case that you moved into single file if you heard a car approaching, or were just riding that way to start with. It seems to be the people new to the sport that do it, and they appear to be the majority now. They are particularly aggressive and they know they can legally do it even though they know it pi55es people off.
Around here (Guildford, surrounding villages, Surrey Hills, Olympic route etc) you can't move for cyclists at the weekend, yet they still persist in their selfsih ways. All this from an avid cyclist too! |
Originally Posted by Butkus
(Post 11526927)
I've been into cycling for years, but cyclists riding two abreast annoy the hell out of me. It always used to be the case that you moved into single file if you heard a car approaching, or were just riding that way to start with. It seems to be the people new to the sport that do it, and they appear to be the majority now. They are particularly aggressive and they know they can legally do it even though they know it pi55es people off.
Around here (Guildford, surrounding villages, Surrey Hills, Olympic route etc) you can't move for cyclists at the weekend, yet they still persist in their selfsih ways. All this from an avid cyclist too! I have a problem with some of them using the bridleway that crosses in front of my driveway...due to the hedgerows its blind to pull on/off. Yet woe betide should I unavoidable cross their path whilst hurtling down at 25mph+ with their go-pro strapped to their head. Of course it all my fault that its impossible for me to see them or react in time. :rolleyes: During the abuse I do remind them its a bridleway not a velodrome track...which pedestrians and dog walkers also use as they tear down there. and is it not wise to slow down before they hit someone (or their dog). I'm probably on You-Tube somewhere. :D |
Originally Posted by Butkus
(Post 11526927)
I've been into cycling for years, but cyclists riding two abreast annoy the hell out of me. It always used to be the case that you moved into single file if you heard a car approaching, or were just riding that way to start with. It seems to be the people new to the sport that do it, and they appear to be the majority now. They are particularly aggressive and they know they can legally do it even though they know it pi55es people off.
Around here (Guildford, surrounding villages, Surrey Hills, Olympic route etc) you can't move for cyclists at the weekend, yet they still persist in their selfsih ways. All this from an avid cyclist too! Riding 2 abreast is passive defensive. Riding on country lanes where there is one lane then move into single file. On twin lanes drivers should wait for it to be clear, move over to the other lane and pass carefully. Nobody using the roads has priorty over the other. Solo riding, I will ride 1m to 1.5m from the kerb to allow me to have a modicum of control to move over if someone tries to pass by too closely. Tolerance and patience is required. |
I ride solo and usually ride a meter from the curb as drains ect cause problems. I have noticed you either get driver`s passing a car width wide or 2 inches, and I always pull in and wave a car past when safe to do so.
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Originally Posted by andy97
(Post 11526993)
You will have to explain why it annoys you in detail?
Riding 2 abreast is passive defensive. Riding on country lanes where there is one lane then move into single file. On twin lanes drivers should wait for it to be clear, move over to the other lane and pass carefully. Nobody using the roads has priorty over the other. Solo riding, I will ride 1m to 1.5m from the kerb to allow me to have a modicum of control to move over if someone tries to pass by too closely. Tolerance and patience is required. |
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11526855)
Because dog sh1t is utterly revolting,
whereas horsh1te, if mixed with good quality long grain rice, and drizzled with extra virgin olive oil together with thin slices of parmigiano reggiano makes for a great antipasto |
Originally Posted by andy97
(Post 11526737)
Whilst cycling with my mate over the weekend I have for the first time received abuse and horn pipping whilst out cycling.
The law is clear that riding two abreast is lawful and regarded safer than single file. Why can't drivers have some tolerance, wait a few seconds for a safe overtaking moment, instead of harassing, shouting abuse? Maybe it's time to invest in a go pro and start reporting aggressive abusive drivers? |
Didn't you realise some people in cars mainly just don't like being delayed,got to get to tesco or asda,collect the kids from school,or take them to football practice etc,100mph or nothing.And b0ll0cks if that green light go to red,two abreast cyclists,grandma driving at 40mph on a B road,and speeds up to 50mph in a 30 zone :lol1:
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
(Post 11527026)
A slight annoyance if you drive around a country bend fast but I have noticed this riding style has got very common recently.
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Originally Posted by Paben
(Post 11527010)
I'm a keen cylist but have almost given up road riding as it has become too dangerous. As both a cyclist and car driver it really annoys the hell out of me to read this 'I know my rights' attitude, and for non cycling drivers it's a certain wind up. 1,500kg car v 8kg bike and rider = no contest, and many annual cyclist deaths and serious injuries prove that point all to clearly.
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This is really straight forward. The purpose of the horn in your vehicle is to warn others of your vehicles presence. Cyclists get two short blasts in close succession (one long beep sounds aggressive). Cyclists move into single file, and car passes. A wave from the driver shows some appreciation.
After the second repetition of the two short beep technique, the dirty diesel gets dropped to second gear and wide open throttle on the way by, leaving the two wheeled twosome to avoid or enter the soot cloud. BTW - I am a cyclist, I refuse to cycle when roads are busy I start out at 5AM and aim to be home before 8AM on a weekend morning; I detest cyclists who cycle two wide, especially when it is two middle-aged track-suit wearing lard arsed blokes who struggle to keep their £59 mountain bike rolling in a straight line at 10mph. |
Originally Posted by tarmac terror
(Post 11527087)
This is really straight forward. The purpose of the horn in your vehicle is to warn others of your vehicles presence. Cyclists get two short blasts in close succession (one long beep sounds aggressive). Cyclists move into single file, and car passes. A wave from the driver shows some appreciation.
After the second repetition of the two short beep technique, the dirty diesel gets dropped to second gear and wide open throttle on the way by, leaving the two wheeled twosome to avoid or enter the soot cloud. BTW - I am a cyclist, I refuse to cycle when roads are busy I start out at 5AM and aim to be home before 8AM on a weekend morning; I detest cyclists who cycle two wide, especially when it is two middle-aged track-suit wearing lard arsed blokes who struggle to keep their £59 mountain bike rolling in a straight line at 10mph. |
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