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Moley 17 July 2014 04:28 PM

Malaysia Airlines Crash - Another One
 
Early reports of another Malaysia Airlines 777 coming down, this time on the Russia-Ukraine boarder

Wonder is this will help find what bought the other one down, or if Russia have shot it down by mistake

kevfawcett 17 July 2014 04:35 PM

We'll never find out what the Americans did the other one.

Interfax have claimed this one has been shot down though

RA Dunk 17 July 2014 04:42 PM

It wouldn't be the first time the Russians have done it.

Funkii Munkii 17 July 2014 04:44 PM

Crashed on the Ukraine Russian border.

The Russians were shooting down Ukraine fighters yesterday, mistaken identity ?? it wouldn't be the first time they've taken out a civil airliner in error.

Thoughts with all those on board and their families, terrible news for MH as well.

Turbohot 17 July 2014 04:55 PM

Awful news.

f1_fan 17 July 2014 04:58 PM

Terrible news especially for Malaysian Airlines. I just flew on a Malaysia flight and it was only just over half full. The stewardess said it's been like that since MH370!

Tidgy 17 July 2014 05:03 PM

reported as ground to air missile involved, so sounds like it was shot down.

wouldnt surprise me if us steps in and starts bombing sepratists now

Graz 17 July 2014 05:10 PM

Oh dear :(

ScoobyWon't 17 July 2014 05:10 PM

The US only added more sanctions yesterday. I wonder what they will respond with next?

BrownPantsRacing 17 July 2014 05:21 PM

:(

dpb 17 July 2014 05:31 PM

Oh dear god,I heard plane was down

Didn't realise it was civilian

dpb 17 July 2014 06:05 PM

30000 feet, doesn't seem likely does it (shot down I mean )

LSherratt 17 July 2014 06:07 PM

Awful news. Surely this must be the end now for Malaysian Airlines?

jazzyjembreaze 17 July 2014 06:08 PM

Russia shot down a Ukrainian fighter yesterday
My guess is the Ukrainians thought this was a Russian spy or fighter
Oops .. Backfired big time ..... Someone must be held accountable

Cpt Jack Sparrow 17 July 2014 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 11471047)
30000 feet, doesn't seem likely does it (shot down I mean )

Yes it does the BUK SAM will hit aircraft at 40000 feet so no problem.


Thoughts are with those affected by this tragedy

dpb 17 July 2014 06:53 PM

Would a fighter jet / bomber routinely fly at 30000 feet Capt?

Tidgy 17 July 2014 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 11471047)
30000 feet, doesn't seem likely does it (shot down I mean )

It would be easy to hit if they wanted to, they stopped flying the U-2 becuase russians sams could hit it even flying at 70k feet.

U-2 became useless cos of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-75_Dvina


but more modern missiles will hit 100k +

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_%28missile%29

S400 is even newwer and more capable

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-400_%28SAM%29

nothing is safe from missile fire nowadays

Tidgy 17 July 2014 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 11471077)
Would a fighter jet / bomber routinely fly at 30000 feet Capt?

easily, eurofighter has max altitude of 65k feet, so 30k is not even trying

F-15 has reached 103k feet

Cpt Jack Sparrow 17 July 2014 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 11471077)
Would a fighter jet / bomber routinely fly at 30000 feet Capt?

Yep no problem

bustaMOVEs 17 July 2014 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by Moley_WRX (Post 11470986)
Early reports of another Malaysia Airlines 777 coming down, this time on the Russia-Ukraine boarder

Wonder is this will help find what bought the other one down, or if Russia have shot it down by mistake

When I first heard it, I thought they was going to say it's been found (the missing one) then they continued to say....the above.
Still intrigued to know what happened to other one.

P.s did you get my PM?

Midlife...... 17 July 2014 07:24 PM

News says that the US have satellite coverage of the area so will be able to track any SAM missile from the plume or if not see the signature of an AIM.

Doesn't look good for Russia............

Shaun

thenewgalaxy 17 July 2014 07:40 PM

Amazing that that they claim the ability to trace the vapour trail from a small missile via UV radiation satellite images yet they can't trace a large passenger aircraft that went missing over the sea.

Tidgy 17 July 2014 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by thenewgalaxy (Post 11471125)
Amazing that that they claim the ability to trace the vapour trail from a small missile via UV radiation satellite images yet they can't trace a large passenger aircraft that went missing over the sea.

different engines, but i bet its more a case of they wern't looking for mh170 at the time.

there will be a gazillion spy satalites over that region at the min

Cpt Jack Sparrow 17 July 2014 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by thenewgalaxy (Post 11471125)
Amazing that that they claim the ability to trace the vapour trail from a small missile via UV radiation satellite images yet they can't trace a large passenger aircraft that went missing over the sea.

That's the difference between having satellites trained on a know conflict zone, and wide open oceans that don't need to be watched

Cpt Jack Sparrow 17 July 2014 07:47 PM

Tidgy you type faster than me......

dpb 17 July 2014 07:49 PM

It's flown through an "area that has enormous restrictions for flying "

Tidgy 17 July 2014 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by Cpt Jack Sparrow (Post 11471132)
Tidgy you type faster than me......

:lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1: :thumb:

Jeem 17 July 2014 08:38 PM

The news showed that the rebels General on their version of Facebook was all up himself bout how they had just shot down another antonov plane an that's what you get, now they realised it's a civilian plane that post an all other tweets from solders about them having this buk missile system have been removed but the news channels still have them. Someone on the rebel side mucked up there's no way Russia can stand by them anymore

hodgy0_2 17 July 2014 08:45 PM

If people did not realise that ill judge posting on social media can have far reaching consequences

This is a good example

jasey 17 July 2014 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Jeem (Post 11471170)
The news showed that the rebels General on their version of Facebook was all up himself bout how they had just shot down another antonov plane an that's what you get, now they realised it's a civilian plane that post an all other tweets from solders about them having this buk missile system have been removed but the news channels still have them. Someone on the rebel side mucked up there's no way Russia can stand by them anymore

They'll blame Hamas ;)

oops - wrong thread :)


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