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ClassicEddie 13 June 2014 04:40 PM

EcuLabs - are many classics running this?
 
Just looking in to remapping my uk classic (year 2000). Going from previous threads there's a few options:
Fully after market ECU ~£1000+ or there's 2 options keeping the standard ECU:
EcuTek £660
or Eculabs for £400.

I'm not running anything other than a filter & pipe and don't want anything more special than to get the best from the car as it is so the stand alone isn't worth the outlay. The EcuTek seems expensive compared to the EcuLabs and I can't really see and negatives to it (it actually seems to give slightly better functionality). So my question is how popular is the EcuLabs and is it as good as it appears to be?

johnwiz 14 June 2014 09:45 AM

Hi, I'm running EcuLabs, very pleased so far, I have most of the "toys" , Launch Control, Flat Foot Shifting, Speed Density (MAFless), different boost each gear etc , my only criticism is the car pops & bangs a bit but as I asked for a "drag race" map I can hardly complain lol :) Going for a "sensible" second map for road/trackday use soon.
Watch the pricing, is that all with VAT or not?
For your car you could :
1) buy a second hand licenced ECutek ECu for about £100 & then get that mapped for £300 cash :)
2) Go basic EcuLabs single map £340 plus VAT equals £408
Cheers John

Rick2014 14 June 2014 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by johnwiz (Post 11449693)
Hi, I'm running EcuLabs, very pleased so far, I have most of the "toys" , Launch Control, Flat Foot Shifting, Speed Density (MAFless), different boost each gear etc , my only criticism is the car pops & bangs a bit but as I asked for a "drag race" map I can hardly complain lol :) Going for a "sensible" second map for road/trackday use soon.
Watch the pricing, is that all with VAT or not?
For your car you could :
1) buy a second hand licenced ECutek ECu for about £100 & then get that mapped for £300 cash :)
2) Go basic EcuLabs single map £340 plus VAT equals £408
Cheers John

Did you gain a lot from the ecu labs in power and where did you go for this mapping to take place.

johnwiz 14 June 2014 10:50 AM

Hi Rick81, are you asking about a remap on a standard 99/00 impreza? With a panel filter/induction kit & decat exhaust you could prob get to 260-270 bhp with a remap (215 std)
My car had a VF35 turbo & 550 injectors bolted on just before remap so my car went from 230ish to 320ish :)
All my Scoob work is done at Mocom Racing including mapping.

eddie_impreza 14 June 2014 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by johnwiz (Post 11449693)
Hi, I'm running EcuLabs, very pleased so far, I have most of the "toys" , Launch Control, Flat Foot Shifting, Speed Density (MAFless), different boost each gear etc , my only criticism is the car pops & bangs a bit but as I asked for a "drag race" map I can hardly complain lol :) Going for a "sensible" second map for road/trackday use soon.
Watch the pricing, is that all with VAT or not?
For your car you could :
1) buy a second hand licenced ECutek ECu for about £100 & then get that mapped for £300 cash :)
2) Go basic EcuLabs single map £340 plus VAT equals £408
Cheers John

Yes the prices is said above for ecutek and eculabs is including vat. Obviously the top end stand alone is only a rough guide because there's so many options.

Ecutek second hand is a bit of a risk because it might be locked by the original tuner (correct me if I'm wrong) so will need to buy another licence anyway.

Interested in your mafless tune! I just had to fork out £125 for a new maf :( What's the catch with going mafless?

johnwiz 14 June 2014 01:53 PM

Hi Eddie,
not heard of tuners "locking" their maps on Ecutek but I could be wrong, I actually bought an Ecutek ECU licenced & mapped by Pat H : Bob Rawle said he could map it no problem :)
The only drawback re going mafless is that the ECU will loose some (or all?) of its self-learning facility,if I so much as change my backbox I strictly should get my car remapped.(But really that is true for any mapped car lol :))
Also the car will not adapt quite so well to ambient temperature, air density, etc but unless yr driving across the Sahara or North Pole I don't think that'll be a problem!
The EcuLabs Speed Density (mafless) mapping is more costly:

EcuLabs basic (using maf ) single map = £408 incl VAT
EcuLabs Speed Density (mafless) single map = £516 incl vat

THE GREAT THING is you no longer have to worry about that poxy 99/00 MAF, so well worth it in my opinion.
Also I had my spec pretty much worked out & this would be best with any kind of mapping, work out yr spec THEN get it mapped, as adding bits later gets expensive :)

Rick2014 14 June 2014 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by johnwiz (Post 11449727)
Hi Rick81, are you asking about a remap on a standard 99/00 impreza? With a panel filter/induction kit & decat exhaust you could prob get to 260-270 bhp with a remap (215 std)
My car had a VF35 turbo & 550 injectors bolted on just before remap so my car went from 230ish to 320ish :)
All my Scoob work is done at Mocom Racing including mapping.

Hi I have the forester 2000 model the sport turbo.think its 177bhp.Ive just got the middle section decat pipe and wrx turbo to fit.i was wondering what I would see roughly from theis map and if I could also go mafless :lol1:

Jolly Green Monster 14 June 2014 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by Rick81 (Post 11449815)
Hi I have the forester 2000 model the sport turbo.think its 177bhp.Ive just got the middle section decat pipe and wrx turbo to fit.i was wondering what I would see roughly from theis map and if I could also go mafless :lol1:

You won't gain anything power wise going mafless. The forester standard turbo will do around 220-230 depending on exhaust mods once mapped.

Best mod is to fit a td04 and remap

Rick2014 14 June 2014 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster (Post 11449818)
You won't gain anything power wise going mafless. The forester standard turbo will do around 220-230 depending on exhaust mods once mapped.

Best mod is to fit a td04 and remap

Ive got my td04 to fit yet.The reason for mafless is less things to go wrong

Rick2014 14 June 2014 09:44 PM

Where abouts do I have to go for this ecu lab map what area are you.

53 14 June 2014 09:48 PM

JGM is mobile mate, he will pretty much be where ever you need him to be, highly recommended :)

Rick2014 14 June 2014 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by 53 (Post 11450006)
JGM is mobile mate, he will pretty much be where ever you need him to be, highly recommended :)

How mobile is he :lol1: im in Manchester.Im guessing im gonna need to a get a dyno run from some where to get some figures in :lol1: .I thought he was based in a garage and I went to him and did it all there :)

johnwiz 15 June 2014 07:22 AM

Go on Rick81 , get those bits bolted on & give Simon (Jolly Green Monster) a call lol :)
Oh BTW the Mafless mapping is more expensive as it is FAR more time consuming for the mapper !! Mocom Racing are in Essex so great for me.
AFAIK you can't go mafless with Ecutek but I could be wrong.

johnwiz 15 June 2014 07:29 AM

In the interest of fairness I should also mention there are other very good mappers but I don't think they offer the Eculabs software:
Duncan at Racedynamix & of course the "guvnor" Bob Rawle :)
Bob mapped my V5 STI Type R with Ecutek, drove like a factory car !!

johnwiz 15 June 2014 07:32 AM

My 12.87/106 run :)

Rick2014 15 June 2014 11:12 AM

Seems im gonna have to travel many miles for this map :lol1: Will my stock clutch take 290bhp on a forester

ClassicEddie 16 June 2014 04:03 PM

I emailed Eculabs and Mocom in Essex are their UK distributor. I wonder if we could get a group buy discount? would any one/how many people would be interested?...

Rick2014 16 June 2014 06:51 PM

I don't fancy trekking down to Costa del Essex just for a map.is that where the jolly green monster is?

ClassicEddie 16 June 2014 07:37 PM

I don't think he does EcuLab but it would be sweet if he did!. I believe he's all over but mainly around the south east.

johnwiz 16 June 2014 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by Rick81 (Post 11451037)
I don't fancy trekking down to Costa del Essex just for a map.is that where the jolly green monster is?

How very dare you sir, I'm dancing around my handbag in my white stilettos in anger lol :D

Simon (JGM) is mobile , ask him! I'm not sure if he would be willing to bolt on yr TD04 & exhaust at the same time but no harm asking!

Eddie,I'm sure Zak at Mocom Racing would be happy to sort a group buy , get in touch with him
(contact numbers & email on his web site, email better, he's always under a car lol :))

Jolly Green Monster 16 June 2014 08:41 PM

I have spoken with eculabs and I was meant to post them some ecus to have them converted but not got around to it. With the interest being shown here I will jump to it.

I am mobile btw

MartynJ 17 June 2014 03:47 PM

We also deal with Eculabs and have a 99 ecu in stock ready to go.

Rick2014 17 June 2014 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by johnwiz (Post 11451076)
How very dare you sir, I'm dancing around my handbag in my white stilettos in anger lol :D

Simon (JGM) is mobile , ask him! I'm not sure if he would be willing to bolt on yr TD04 & exhaust at the same time but no harm asking!

Eddie,I'm sure Zak at Mocom Racing would be happy to sort a group buy , get in touch with him
(contact numbers & email on his web site, email better, he's always under a car lol :))

My turbo is already mounted :lol1: ive got the middle section decat im just waiting on my up pipe to turbo decat so I can do it all in one instead of doing it in pieces ;)

Rick2014 17 June 2014 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster (Post 11451111)
I have spoken with eculabs and I was meant to post them some ecus to have them converted but not got around to it. With the interest being shown here I will jump to it.

I am mobile btw

Its gonna cost me an arm an a leg for you to come to Manchester isn't it :lol1:

Jolly Green Monster 17 June 2014 08:07 PM

It should be cheaper than you travelling down :)

johnwiz 18 June 2014 10:34 AM

Rick81, I am running stock Exedy clutch (but new) with 320bhp/320 lb ft on my Impreza !
Not sure if Forester has same clutch tho.
Theory is standard clutch will cushion punishment to drivetrain lol :)

Rick2014 18 June 2014 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by johnwiz (Post 11451998)
Rick81, I am running stock Exedy clutch (but new) with 320bhp/320 lb ft on my Impreza !
Not sure if Forester has same clutch tho.
Theory is standard clutch will cushion punishment to drivetrain lol :)

I hope so mate.I don't no how much wear is on the clutch right now

Rick2014 18 June 2014 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster (Post 11451665)
It should be cheaper than you travelling down :)

What would I be looking at for you to come to Manchester and set the car up to go mafless :)

dj219957 18 June 2014 07:05 PM

I thought esl had a solution for this MY now?

d.kenny 18 June 2014 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by johnwiz (Post 11449693)
1) buy a second hand licenced ECutek ECu for about £100 & then get that mapped for £300 cash :)

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