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frayz 17 September 2011 05:49 PM

Kev, that GT30 billet plus, what spec/displacement engine was that on?
Also fuel and boost used please? :)

Mad Hammer 17 September 2011 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by frayz (Post 10240921)
Kev, that GT30 billet plus, what spec/displacement engine was that on?
Also fuel and boost used please? :)

2.1, AVCS heads, standard cams and E85 mate

frayz 17 September 2011 06:14 PM

Thought as much.

Id be interested to see one on a 2.5 on plain vpower.

Superb result either way from a 30 cored turbo.

Jolly Green Monster 17 September 2011 08:14 PM

Glad you got it sorted and with a nice result, sorry I delayed you doing so by using the dyno all day yesterday.

Simon

Originally Posted by The Gaffer (Post 10240676)
Hi,

another quick up date for the subscribers to this thread, the latest billet wheel design fitted to a GT30, we may name it "GT30 Billet +". :thumb:


http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/v...letnewclip.jpg


Please note we had to run the car in 4th gear as it just lit up all four wheels in 3rd, this makes the spool appear around a 1000 RPM less. ;)

Now off to santa pod tomorrow to see how it performs or if Mikee can break the gearbox casing again. :D

cheers

Kev


joz8968 17 September 2011 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster (Post 10241174)
...sorry I delayed you doing so by using the dyno all day yesterday.

Simon

^^^ That'll be me holding up proceedings by 'making' Simon sort out my Simtek IT sensor's wiring.... Plus my boost pipe popping off! lol :cuckoo: ;) :D

joz8968 17 September 2011 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by WhiteWagonMan (Post 10240332)
Well the long wait was finally over yesterday for me and Lee as we met up with simon-JGM at the scoobyclinic to map the SC42 and SC46 billet turbo`s on our cars,heres my SC42 results.....

Mapped on straight v-power:thumb:

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/c.../Photo2216.jpg

Glenn, you prob didn't bother with the above V-Power map on the drive home as you no doubt still had meth in the tank, and used the VP+meth map instead? :D (And why wouldn't you, with the option of 451! ;)).

But when you do, would you post up your subjective thoughts on the SC42 Billet's spool, when compared to your previous 18g? I'm interested. :)

Nice to have met you and Lee yesterday - you both got blinding results from the unbeatable SC billet/JGM combo. :D

(And I got what I 'wanted' too ;) :D).

craigyp 17 September 2011 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by The Gaffer (Post 10240714)
Hi,

this is exactly why we brought out the SC42 billet, some people think that the SC46 Billet will be a bit laggy and overkill, laggy its not by a long way but overkill on a 2.0 ltr it may be on some set ups. ;)

The 46 can tend to choke up a bit over 420 BHP on 2.0 ltr engines and I stress on some set ups only, whereas the SC42 Billet doesn't as it is designed for around 420 BHP and with its smaller exhaust wheel has a slight increase in spool. :thumb:

The 42 Billet has shown its capability to produce over 450 BHP with a 20% meth mix and there was more to come, Simon (JGM) held it back to save the standard gear box. :luxhello:

Both the turbo's are stunning, its a case of BHP verses spool but either way there is not much in it, and as I stated earlier, on a 2.0 ltr with certain set ups the SC46 Billet wont go over 420 BHP so you may as well go with an SC42 billet and gain a little spool, but unless you try the 46 we would never know if on your set up it would have worked fine. :wonder:

cheers
Kev

Thanks for the detailed response keV
So could I try before I buy??? ;)

joz8968 17 September 2011 09:38 PM

46 on first - if it chokes, then swap out for the 42! Win-win. :) Just have to suffer the potential duplictated labour costs for the 42's fitment. (Unless SC waive them as a goodwill gesture...? ;)).

WhiteWagonMan 17 September 2011 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by joz8968 (Post 10241293)
Glenn, you prob didn't bother with the above V-Power map on the drive home as you no doubt still had meth in the tank, and used the VP+meth map instead? :D (And why wouldn't you, with the option of 451! ;)).

But when you do, would you post up your subjective thoughts on the SC42 Billet's spool, when compared to your previous 18g? I'm interested. :)

Nice to have met you and Lee yesterday - you both got blinding results from the unbeatable SC billet/JGM combo. :D

(And I got what I 'wanted' too ;) :D).

Was nice to meet you yesterday also joz,hope you enjoyed the drive home after the excellent dyno result,nice car you got there buddy.

Yeah i did drive home on the meth map but rain stopped play so no chance of me dropping the hammer,as soon as im back on the v-power map i`ll post up my findings for you no worries.:thumb:

joz8968 17 September 2011 10:42 PM

Cheers dude :) (just a little bit jealous of your power lol :D).

craigyp 18 September 2011 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by joz8968 (Post 10241337)
46 on first - if it chokes, then swap out for the 42! Win-win. :) Just have to suffer the potential duplictated labour costs for the 42's fitment. (Unless SC waive them a a goodwill gesture...? ;)).


Oh yeah didn't think off the labour cost!!! :(
Couldn't afford it twice prob best to go for 42 to be on safe side then.. But I know lateral have also just released the billet range of the mdh and mdt so really torn which way to go now!!!!

leeroywrx 18 September 2011 08:56 AM

the 18g glenn had was amazing but the sc42 is simply another level pal.great figures btw on your 20g.about what you thought pal.you should have said that you need some meth to break 400 and i could have give you some :)

alanbell 18 September 2011 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by The Gaffer (Post 10240676)
Hi,

another quick up date for the subscribers to this thread, the latest billet wheel design fitted to a GT30, we may name it "GT30 Billet +". :thumb:


http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/v...letnewclip.jpg


Please note we had to run the car in 4th gear as it just lit up all four wheels in 3rd, this makes the spool appear around a 1000 RPM less. ;)

Now off to santa pod tomorrow to see how it performs or if Mikee can break the gearbox casing again. :D

cheers

Kev

Hi Kev, Ive a scooby clinic GT30 billet less than a year old, not on the car yet , can it be made into a plus :) and price please , cheers Alan.

joz8968 18 September 2011 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by craigyp (Post 10241663)
Oh yeah didn't think off the labour cost!!! :(
Couldn't afford it twice prob best to go for 42 to be on safe side then.. But I know lateral have also just released the billet range of the mdh and mdt so really torn which way to go now!!!!

Wait for The Gaffer's response - you never know, SC might waive the 2nd fitting costs if you decide to buy the 42! :) (Not sure on their 'policy' on that....)

joz8968 18 September 2011 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by leeroywrx (Post 10241666)
the 18g glenn had was amazing but the sc42 is simply another level pal.great figures btw on your 20g.about what you thought pal.you should have said that you need some meth to break 400 and i could have give you some :)

Yep Lee, much happier now the 20g - of unknown origin, it has to be said - is, nevertheless, producing a figure more representative of its capability. :)

Annoyingly, my particular motor, for whatever reason, can only hold 1.4bar. If it could have held, say, 1.6, 390-400 would surely have been in the bag. I even fitted a 17.5-20psi (1.2-1.36bar) spring in my Forge T2 w/g act. - but to no avail. :(

That said, I'm happy now... And torque, is just below 350lb ft at 349.2 -- so on the right side of "5-sp. friendly". Probably. lol ;)

joz8968 18 September 2011 10:25 AM

So big up for Jolly Green Monster -- we all 'love' you! :lol1:

(But not in the biblical sense. Obviously.) :D

Shaun 18 September 2011 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Einstein RA (Post 10240566)
On the Litchfield twin scroll thread I queried as to wether the LM series were true twin scroll or just twin entry, it transpired that they were mere twin entry! I'm surprised this hasn't been picked up on. The SC series are true twin scroll this immediately puts them ahead of the LMs.

Both "series" of turbos are undoubtedly great bits of kit.

However, what is your reasoning behind why one turbo is "ahead" of another.... just from the way the exhaust housing volutes are configured?

There is more to the way the turbo performs than the volute trust me.

juggers 18 September 2011 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 10241791)
Both "series" of turbos are undoubtedly great bits of kit.

However, what is your reasoning behind why one turbo is "ahead" of another.... just from the way the exhaust housing volutes are configured?

There is more to the way the turbo performs than the volute trust me.

Perhaps because one of the worlds leading turbo manufacturers have developed a new range around twinscroll turbos :D

I contacted full race before going for a LM/SC but there twinscroll turbo doesn't fit RHD cars :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfuE6...ayer_embedded#!


No doubt you'll know a lot about these to turbos to :)

WhiteWagonMan 18 September 2011 02:03 PM

Very interesting viewing mate,cheers.;)

juggers 18 September 2011 02:17 PM

The fact that the SC was true twinscroll was one if the main reasons I chose it over the LM but, untill the car is mapped this week I can't comment on how good this set is.

Shaun 18 September 2011 02:46 PM

I'm sure you will be mega impressed Immy! :)

I know the potential benefit of twinscroll volutes, but I also know the specification of compressor and exhaust wheel also plays a massive part in how the turbo responds, spools and makes it ultimate power.

Like I said.... it's not just about the "snail".

The comparisons with my very own car and my various turbo testing highlights that nicely.... even with a "lowly" twin entry design. ;)

It wouldn't be right for me to post data on this thread, so have a look at the latest comparison graph on my project thread I have just posted. :)

Look forward to your results Immy and as I have said, I'm sure you will be very very happy with your set-up. :)

jayallen 18 September 2011 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by leeroywrx (Post 10240400)
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d...x/f5d2e629.jpg
This is my sc46 meth graph.not as quick spool as Glenn sc42 but a little more power which is exactly what keV said it would do.there was talk of 500bhp when I change the gearbox to give the turbo its full potential so I'm over the moon with the result

Vpower only?

wrx9181 18 September 2011 03:13 PM

I've noticed alot in this tread kev comes up as keV ? Wtf

TimH 18 September 2011 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by wrx9181 (Post 10242148)
I've noticed alot in this tread kev comes up as keV ? Wtf

Maybe the "K" has been trodden on ;) :Whatever_ :p

leeroywrx 18 September 2011 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by jayallen (Post 10242097)
Vpower only?

meth mate :)

leeroywrx 18 September 2011 03:29 PM

would be nice to see the results of the fabulous sc42 and sc46 maxxed out when whe have changed our gearboxes.at 460 bhp it is positively rocket prepelled so once the gearbox is changed who knows how much its really capable of.although 460 bhp is not to be sniffed at ;)

Maz 18 September 2011 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 10241791)
Both "series" of turbos are undoubtedly great bits of kit.

However, what is your reasoning behind why one turbo is "ahead" of another.... just from the way the exhaust housing volutes are configured?

There is more to the way the turbo performs than the volute trust me.

It's a better spec for less money.

Shaun 18 September 2011 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by Einstein RA (Post 10242362)
It's a better spec.

Why?

WhiteWagonMan 19 September 2011 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by leeroywrx (Post 10242181)
would be nice to see the results of the fabulous sc42 and sc46 maxxed out when whe have changed our gearboxes.at 460 bhp it is positively rocket prepelled so once the gearbox is changed who knows how much its really capable of.although 460 bhp is not to be sniffed at ;)

pmsl:lol:..yeah and he knows what hes talking about and always tells it how it is,and if it wasnt rocket propelled he would say cos he always says what he thinks and tells you straight.:lol1::cry::lol1: :cry::notworthy

flat4 19 September 2011 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by wrx9181 (Post 10242148)
I've noticed alot in this tread kev comes up as keV ? Wtf

iPhones for one, autocorrect Kev into keV as it's an abbreviation for Kiloelectron Volts, rather annoying if that's your name, like me :D



And well done to Mikee for his new PB at the weekend using the new GT30 billet +, i'm sure keV ;) will provide an update soon :D


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