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Originally Posted by Geezer
(Post 11893053)
A man who has been declared bankrupt about 7 times and was given millions of dollars by his father to start? Hardly self made or competent.
You are right in the button there, it should have been a slam dunk for the Democrats, but they put Hilary up against him...... |
When the dust settles on this there are going to have to be some very serious questions asked about the FBI's involvement in this election
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Presumably Nigel will be comparing the evil democrats with the unelected eu pariah .
Or the "Them foreigners are stealing our jobs" angle |
Originally Posted by Paben
(Post 11893060)
Always difficult to tell with Mr A's declarations, but I assumed he meant Gexit and Frexit rather than war. Could be wrong though.
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11893067)
When the dust settles on this there are going to have to be some very serious questions asked about the FBI's involvement in this election
Totally agree (for once) :) |
My two American friends have just WhatsApped me that they're still in shock. Both didn't vote for Trump and reluctantly voted for Clinton. They said that America has gone bonkers! They want to come to the UK as refugees because we have more sensible leadership here.
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Originally Posted by David Lock
(Post 11892891)
Trump hasn't got a snowball's. The sooner he f,ucks off the better.
dl Wishful thinking - how bloody depressing :mad: :mad: :mad: dl |
Originally Posted by JDM_Stig
(Post 11892953)
my tenner 2 years ago at 5000/1 was a good bet.
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
(Post 11893083)
My two American friends have just WhatsApped me that they're still in shock. Both didn't vote for Trump and reluctantly voted for Clinton. They said that America has gone bonkers! They want to come to the UK as refugees because we have more sensible leadership here.
I hope you told them we don't take refugees over the age of 18! Out of the frying pan into the fire if they came here of course. :lol1: |
Just rewatched some victorious mid aged women saying
" We can now get on with raising our children with the morals that should have been in place for years .....etc etc " or some such ****e along those lines wtf does she mean exactly? |
[QUOTE=dpb;11893119]Just rewatched some victorious mid aged women saying
" We can now get on with raising our children with the morals that should have been in place for years .....etc etc " or some such ****e along those lines wtf does she mean exactly?[/QUOTE] She's stupid. d |
Originally Posted by dpb
(Post 11893119)
Just rewatched some victorious mid aged women saying
" We can now get on with raising our children with the morals that should have been in place for years .....etc etc " or some such ****e along those lines wtf does she mean exactly? |
US Marines' motto: 'Improvise, adapt & overcome'. Probably a lot of that attitude required from now on, for us and the USA. Sempa Fi.
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Maybe she's implying abusing one's position once in high office or something.
Anyway , maybe Alcazar will know |
Originally Posted by JTaylor
(Post 11893123)
That pride, lust, greed, deceit, slander and bigotry is rewarded with unimaginable power and riches. God bless America.
but they have been pretty damming, this just seems to be the culmination of the adherence to debunked zombie economic and social policies that started in the 80's (in both the US and UK) the neoliberal "ayn randian libertarian" philosophy encapsulated in the Chicago/Austrian school of economics with all its inherent contradictions failed in the banking crash of 2007/8 but it went unnoticed here and in the US - the political class did nothing, indeed Cameron/Osborne simply blamed Gordon Brown, a classic "bait and switch" and the population bought it hook line and sinker I said on a thread at the time - something to the effect that the banking class had won the argument, no lessons were learnt, they were bailed out by working man's tax dollars (and pounds) to the tune of 100 of billions of dollars - I predicted the return of things like the 100% mortgage meanwhile the offshoring of cooperate/personal tax was tacitly encouraged, economic policies that favoured the economically useless assets class where pursued the fact that Obama in reality achieved so little, in reality little changed the same old same Zombie economic policies were carried on this should have been a warning that things where at breaking point the irony is we have a asset rich billionaire (given millions by his father) is able to play the "man of the people card" on a totally fraudulent campaign, promising things he can never deliver power is a powerful drug - God bless America as you say I think they are going to need it |
Originally Posted by Paben
(Post 11893125)
US Marines' motto: 'Improvise, adapt & overcome'. Probably a lot of that attitude required from now on, for us and the USA. Sempa Fi.
unless you can name a successful US military campaign since 1945 maybe the Korean war? |
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11893128)
JT, I am sure I don't have to re-post my previous SN posts on America over the last 6 or 7 years
but they have been pretty damming, this just seems to be the culmination of the adherence to debunked zombie economic and social policies that started in the 80's (in both the US and UK) the neoliberal "ayn randian libertarian" philosophy encapsulated in the Chicago/Austrian school of economics with all its inherent contradictions failed in the banking crash of 2007/8 but it went unnoticed here and in the US - the political class did nothing, indeed Cameron/Osborne simply blamed Gordon Brown, a classic "bait and switch" and the population bought it hook line and sinker I said on a thread at the time - something to the effect that the banking class had won the argument, no lessons were learnt, they were bailed out by working man's tax dollars (and pounds) to the tune of 100 of billions of dollars - I predicted the return of things like the 100% mortgage meanwhile the offshoring of cooperate/personal tax was tacitly encouraged, economic policies that favoured the economically useless assets class where pursued the fact that Obama in reality achieved so little, in reality little changed the same old same Zombie economic policies were carried on this should have been a warning that things where at breaking point the irony is we have a asset rich billionaire (given millions by his father) is able to play the "man of the people card" on a totally fraudulent campaign, promising things he can never deliver power is a powerful drug - God bless America as you say I think they are going to need it https://www.scoobynet.com/922587-goo...l#post10463440 and here: https://www.scoobynet.com/915165-a-l...l#post10358292 I'm just a little 'ol sales manager and even I could see the end result of what you describe. I backed the States for a while because I'd been hoodwinked into believing in unfettered capitalism, accepted that as hegemonies go they aligned fairly well with my worldview and also because they engaged in liberal intervention in line with my Hitchens inspired outlook. Well, I was wrong. In fact it was with Hitchens' passing that I began to see this. What we have now is judgement of a nation and tonight at Bible study I will pray that God has His way. I'm sure the irony will not be lost on you, Hodgy, that Sayyid Qutb prophesied the decline of the US because it had turned its back on God. It has become the Great Beast. |
Ultimately I suppose you can't really odds it with these people
After all they landed up with Bush junior , some how |
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11893129)
and the US Marines have had there ar5es kicked ever since the WW2
unless you can name a successful US military campaign since 1945 maybe the Korean war? That reads well from someone who I suspect is a confirmed fat civvy! As a matter of interest how many arses have you kicked in your time? |
Originally Posted by Paben
(Post 11893142)
That reads well from someone who I suspect is a confirmed fat civvy! As a matter of interest how many arses have you kicked in your time?
good for you, leaves me tad unsatisfied if I am honest - I try and base my thoughts etc, in what my mother used to call "the hear and know" - i.e. reality and do you really believe in all that claptrap |
Originally Posted by JTaylor
(Post 11893135)
I touch on it here:
https://www.scoobynet.com/922587-goo...l#post10463440 and here: https://www.scoobynet.com/915165-a-l...l#post10358292 I'm just a little 'ol sales manager and even I could see the end result of what you describe. I backed the States for a while because I'd been hoodwinked into believing in unfettered capitalism, accepted that as hegemonies go they aligned fairly well with my worldview and also because they engaged in liberal intervention in line with my Hitchens inspired outlook. Well, I was wrong. In fact it was with Hitchens' passing that I began to see this. What we have now is judgement of a nation and tonight at Bible study I will pray that God has His way. I'm sure the irony will not be lost on you, Hodgy, that Sayyid Qutb prophesied the decline of the US because it had turned its back on God. It has become the Great Beast. yes a prescient post my only contribution to that particular thread was this beauty "surely we need to introduce additional capital into the whole global economy could this be done by starting to trade with our intergalactic neighbours? " it was a comment on the contradiction inherent is consumption based capitalism - that eventually it becomes a exercise in parse the parcel I read a article a while back that said something like 50% of the economic activity in the US is simply based on finance - just electronically pushing 1 and 0's around |
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11893144)
lol, all you seem to have is "keep calm and carry on" "have faith"
do you really believe in all that claptrap It beats bursting into tears, wringing your hands and whimpering forlornly in a corner. You can continually whinge about the dreadful state of things or try to do something to improve them. Your style is the former, I prefer the latter. |
Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11893039)
Yes.
If Trump had stuck the money his dad gave him in US savings bonds, he'd have more money today, than his business interests have generated for him. This is hilarious... http://thefederalist.com/2015/12/10/...nald-trump-is/ |
Originally Posted by Paben
(Post 11893114)
I hope you told them we don't take refugees over the age of 18! Out of the frying pan into the fire if they came here of course. :lol1:
Anyway, I've skived out from work for a little; to eat a couple of eggs and salad, and to have a sneak view of the defeated Hilary's speech on TV. She's taking ample time to appear, so I've put the soup on the boil, for tonight's meal. My home smells superb with all the fantastic vegetables boiling on the simmer! :cool: |
Sky put TM's comment with her commitment to continue working shoulder-to-shoulder with Mr. Trump, in inverted commas. Come on, Sky. Do you expect her to tell the President-elect Trump to eff off? Rrrrrreally??? Honestly. Media can be so stupid.
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Boiled vegetables ! eek
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Originally Posted by dpb
(Post 11893161)
Boiled vegetables ! eek
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She's certainly looking p7ssed off under her composure mask. Cleared her throat more than usual, to kick off her speech. Too many fags under stress yesterday, I guess.
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I remember Obama once saying something like the real American politics being nowhere as eventful as the American 'House of Cards', instead quite boring in compare. Come on, Obama. Eat your words, now.
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11885368)
IMO Obama is a class act head and shoulders above anyone from the last 20 years in US politics
Originally Posted by JTaylor
(Post 11885373)
Agreed.
Originally Posted by David Lock
(Post 11892891)
Trump hasn't got a snowball's.
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