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scooby-tc 11 November 2010 03:42 PM

my 4.2 lump went from 450 (standard) to 520bhp with just an exhaust and remap so its not unique to the TTRS engine

john banks 11 November 2010 03:45 PM

Looks like about 402 IIRC that Custom Code were claiming, and it may well run a bit more than 340 to start with.

The Evo 9 would go from 300 to 400 BHP with a remap, exhaust and a modification to the airbox.

A lot of VAG turbo/supercharged engines do more than their ratings in contrast to their NA stuff like the RS4 which is often short.

Janspeed 11 November 2010 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by Mitchy260 (Post 9706672)
Not quite John, not quite.

http://www.tt-forum.co.uk/forum/view...?f=27&t=184105

£2.2k will get you to the 450hp figure. I have no idea what MTM are playing at with their pricing, ludicrous. Suspension and brakes however would need a tweak so another few £k on top.

Running costs scare the sh*t out of most for GTR ownership. TTRS is relatively cheap to run.

I have always thought it was!

Trout 11 November 2010 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by hodgy0_2 (Post 9706694)
those two comments make a 911 seem like a bargain

For the same money he could have bought my GT3 ;)

john banks 11 November 2010 05:32 PM

Are you selling it? 997 GT3 is not that cheap yet is it? Sorry, forgot it is 996 that is why your avatar shows the back of the car ;)

j/k, I like the 996 very much.

Trout 11 November 2010 06:11 PM

Yep - will be selling it sometime before March next year :D

J4CKO 11 November 2010 07:16 PM

I really like the TT RS, love the idea that its a sleeper really, ok, a TT is still fast but not properly fast like a mapped RS, I love the GTR as well but they are a bit conspicuous in comparison.

Mitchy260 11 November 2010 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by Dingdongler (Post 9706762)
Have these figures been substantiated? 340 to 420 BHP ie 80 BHP by just a remap? That is quite a lot isn't it from a remap alone? Is there something about this VAG engine that makes it more tuneable than other turbo charged engines?

Audi had to place the RS under the R8 V8. As you can see from the performance figures posted earlier, the RS with 335hp is already very close to the R8 V8 with 415hp. Had they released it with more, with it being quicker than the R8, then it would have perhaps infringed on R8 sales.

The 2.5T lump is a very tuneable engine, with 335hp, some say it has been restricted by Audi for the reason above and why it responds very well to a remap. The figure of 410hp is reliable yes, it's not just CC that claim this figure, revo do too and there are a few others to name a few, AMD, Sportec etc.

http://www.revotechnik.com/index.php?mod=brands&id=5

There's evidence of standard cars producing 350hp and some as even high as 360hp, so perhaps not the massive jump that it may look like. It looks like our US friends will get a 360hp RS, not sure if Europe will follow suit on that.. http://www.examiner.com/auto-review-...d-quarter-2011

I'm not sure on the stage 2 figures however, In the link I posted earlier, it looks like a full exhaust system and stage 2 tune, give it an extra 40hp upto 450ish. This seems substantial to me but James at JBS has been in the VAG tuning scene for years now and has his own rolling road at JBS so he will be able to back these up I suspect. Revo quote 450 too for stage 2 as seen in Jonny Cockers pistonheads ad.

335hp upto 450hp for £2.2k isn't too shabby:thumb: I think the big winner for the RS is it's affordability. It's cheap to run, insure, tax, and has very good performance/potential. It will keep strong residuals, the interior and build quality are the best in the business, the exterior, well that's down to taste, but I think it's a stunning looking car. Lot of plus points, negative points, not sure on them yet, it's a tarted up hairdresser TT if you like.

R8 V10, yes please, infact I'd love even a V8 sat on the drive:thumb:

zip106 11 November 2010 08:18 PM

To be honest, I can't see anyone who's going to buy a V8 R8 being too concerned if the TTRS is the same output or not.

I know 2 people with the R8 and a TT didn't even enter their thought process, and I don't think either of them realise the power outputs (car just 'looks' nice :rolleyes: )

As an aside, my wife's due a new car in 6 months time and we went into our local Audi to have a look.
I showed her the TTRS in the showroom and the look of disdain on her face was a picture.

I seem to remember words along the line of "...no ****ing chance am I driving a TT of any sort..." leave her mouth.
:lol1:

john banks 11 November 2010 09:18 PM

Classy wife :D I tried to offer mine a Mini so I could do some development. She was having none of it. Although I think she'd accept a TT.

Trout 11 November 2010 09:48 PM

Remember a TT is just a Golf in a tarts dress! Nothing more, nothing less.

I guess an RS has a push up bra ;)

hodgy0_2 11 November 2010 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Trout (Post 9707678)
Remember a TT is just a Golf in a tarts dress! Nothing more, nothing less.

I guess an RS has a push up bra ;)

and you map it to crotchless panties

stilover 12 November 2010 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Trout (Post 9707678)
Remember a TT is just a Golf in a tarts dress! Nothing more, nothing less.

I guess an RS has a push up bra ;)

:lol1::lol1::lol1:

alanbell 12 November 2010 09:09 PM

my car was in york audi today to get a upgrade on the mmi, they gave me a 60 plate a5 for the day . i was not impressed .:)

Dingdongler 12 November 2010 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by alanbell (Post 9709505)
my car was in york audi today to get a upgrade on the mmi, they gave me a 60 plate a5 for the day . i was not impressed .:)

It's an Audi, what did you expect??:)

Janspeed 12 November 2010 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by Dingdongler (Post 9709717)
It's an Audi, what did you expect??:)

Errrr not much? (Too cliche!)

What engine did the A5 have?

scooby-tc 12 November 2010 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by alanbell (Post 9709505)
my car was in york audi today to get a upgrade on the mmi, they gave me a 60 plate a5 for the day . i was not impressed .:)

could have been worse,they could have palmed you off with a ****ty beemer they may have had on the forecourt ;)

alanbell 13 November 2010 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by scooby-tc (Post 9709829)
could have been worse,they could have palmed you off with a ****ty beemer they may have had on the forecourt ;)

lol yes they have 3 bmw .s for sale, people getting rid for winter,
the a5 loan car was a 2l base model , (diesal) it was ok, but getting out of mine to that is like them there bm owners getting out of a m5 to a 335 / 535
so much down on power :D ;) :thumb:

^Qwerty^ 19 November 2010 05:50 PM

Just come out of a B7 RS4 back in to a 'normal' Audi. Regardless of the obvious performance loss, I've lost any kind of driver feedback facility that I had, other than looking out the window and knowing I've turned around a corner. (it is that bad)
Brakes = nill feedback
Steering = nill feedback
Chassis = nill feedback

Not driven the RS5, but it would be tragic if Audi have reverted to type and created a numb car, after the absolute peach that the B7 RS4 was.

In terms of warranty etc. I had a very good selection of dealer paper work for the times mine was in the garage and I'm glad I paid for the 1st year extension even if it did cost over a grand !!!!! Then you have the impending carbon issue as time goes on.... ;)

Dingdongler 19 November 2010 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^ (Post 9721973)
Just come out of a B7 RS4 back in to a 'normal' Audi. Regardless of the obvious performance loss, I've lost any kind of driver feedback facility that I had, other than looking out the window and knowing I've turned around a corner. (it is that bad)
Brakes = nill feedback
Steering = nill feedback
Chassis = nill feedback


Not driven the RS5, but it would be tragic if Audi have reverted to type and created a numb car, after the absolute peach that the B7 RS4 was.

In terms of warranty etc. I had a very good selection of dealer paper work for the times mine was in the garage and I'm glad I paid for the 1st year extension even if it did cost over a grand !!!!! Then you have the impending carbon issue as time goes on.... ;)

Thanks, the rest of us know all this, but it's useful for Alan Bell and scooby tc. Don't worry though mate, somebody will be along very soon to tell you how SAFE it is;)

J4CKO 19 November 2010 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by Trout (Post 9707678)
Remember a TT is just a Golf in a tarts dress! Nothing more, nothing less.

I guess an RS has a push up bra ;)



Ahem,

Never forget your roots :D

http://www.collegelandorahillys.com/1972_VW_Beetle.jpeg

SPEN555 19 November 2010 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by Trout (Post 9707678)
Remember a TT is just a Golf in a tarts dress! Nothing more, nothing less.

I guess an RS has a push up bra ;)

Replace TT with 911 and Golf with Beetle ;)

SPEN555 19 November 2010 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by J4CKO (Post 9722136)

Damn u beat me to it :D

alanbell 19 November 2010 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by Dingdongler (Post 9722109)
Thanks, the rest of us know all this, but it's useful for Alan Bell and scooby tc. Don't worry though mate, somebody will be along very soon to tell you how SAFE it is;)

:sleep: :cuckoo: :p :razz: :lol1: :D

Trout 19 November 2010 11:29 PM


Originally Posted by J4CKO (Post 9722136)

Eat your heart out buddy ;) :D

http://www.cab713.com/wp-content/upl...56_02_1024.jpg

dpb 20 November 2010 12:02 AM

They made a prettier one themselves !

http://www.bader-racing.de/pics/home...e/home2_bg.jpg

Mitchy260 20 November 2010 12:42 PM

I picked up my RS in Macclesfield yesterday which has a 300m return home journey.

https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y1...TTRS/TTRS2.jpg

Fuel economy, 280m or so at 70-75mph, 15m on winding A roads between 30-85mph, a couple of miles at silly speed on the M6 and a couple of miles in town to get to my front door to make up the 300m shown in the pics so I would say a mixture of all driving.

I was very pleasantly surprised, I thought the 2.5T was going to be a thirsty bugger, it may well prove to be but from my first drive, 95% motorway based, they are as below...

https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y1...S/IMG_0595.jpg
https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y1...S/IMG_0597.jpg
https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y1...S/IMG_0598.jpg

Not too shabby I thought

dpb 20 November 2010 12:47 PM

Very nice :D

john banks 20 November 2010 01:50 PM

That is good, same as our Golf GTI 2.0T FSI doing similar, yet this has another 0.5 litres and oodles more power, 4WD. I'll keep an eye on the used prices ;)

stilover 20 November 2010 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by Mitchy260 (Post 9723345)
I picked up my RS in Macclesfield yesterday which has a 300m return home journey.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...TTRS/TTRS2.jpg

Fuel economy, 280m or so at 70-75mph, 15m on winding A roads between 30-85mph, a couple of miles at silly speed on the M6 and a couple of miles in town to get to my front door to make up the 300m shown in the pics so I would say a mixture of all driving.

I was very pleasantly surprised, I thought the 2.5T was going to be a thirsty bugger, it may well prove to be but from my first drive, 95% motorway based, they are as below...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...S/IMG_0595.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...S/IMG_0597.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...S/IMG_0598.jpg

Not too shabby I thought

Anything over 20mpg means your not trying hard enough. Man up and put your foot down. :thumb:


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