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ian12 18 February 2016 06:18 PM

Did they supply a new actuator under warranty for you??

boosted 18 February 2016 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by boosted (Post 11798154)
How much pre load are you running? will the boost not increase with more pre load? I am running a Chinese actuator off a Chinese 20g, it needs a good amount of pre load, but still works perfectly well.

1.8 bar peak and 1.5 held on a billet big 16g

4u2nv2 22 February 2016 05:36 PM

?????

Anko Dragt 23 February 2016 10:00 AM

Its just a cheap taiwanese crap unit.. doing what it does best, making lots of lag and frustrations... I am going to throw away mine.. nothing but problems with it.

ian12 23 February 2016 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by Anko Dragt (Post 11800651)
Its just a cheap taiwanese crap unit.. doing what it does best, making lots of lag and frustrations... I am going to throw away mine.. nothing but problems with it.

What kind of issues did you have with yours ????

Anko Dragt 24 February 2016 08:03 AM

Lag, Poor wastegate+actuator design... leaking wastegate, and the spoolup is just crap on a EJ20.... in 4th gear it takes all the way to 4000 before it hits full boost...

SmurfyBhoy 24 February 2016 08:50 AM

4k full boost on a 2.0 ?
I would have thought that was about right for a bigger turbo ?
Do you ave a frount mount ?
Is it a car with AVCS ?

Anko Dragt 24 February 2016 08:57 AM

That is in 4th gear... spoolup in 2nd or 3th gear is even worse... full boost @4800rpm. Topmount cooler, non avcs.. MY98 GC8.

there are turbos that deliver the same power but with 800rpm earlier spool time...

SmurfyBhoy 24 February 2016 09:01 AM

What kind of power ?
Stock Headers ?

I was looking at Kinugawa until i picked up a sc42 beast that was for sale on here

What turbos you say are better than kinugawa and close to the price ?
Not defending them just couldnt find any 'New' turbos that where reasonably priced.

Anko Dragt 24 February 2016 09:53 AM

Dont know about the power.. but it is a decent amount faster than a buddy of mine with a vf35@ 320hp i'd guess about 360hp @ 1.45bar

OEM MHI turbos are cheap as well.

stock headers, no leaks.

Tidgy 24 February 2016 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy (Post 11801139)
What turbos you say are better than kinugawa and close to the price ?
Not defending them just couldnt find any 'New' turbos that where reasonably priced.

Problem is in the way your thinking, turbos need to made to a high precision with high quality materials. Cheap turbos tend to be copies of more expensive turbos made to a lower tollerance meaning they tend to not perform as well.

Simply put they are cheap for a reason

SmurfyBhoy 24 February 2016 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 11801213)
Problem is in the way your thinking, turbos need to made to a high precision with high quality materials. Cheap turbos tend to be copies of more expensive turbos made to a lower tollerance meaning they tend to not perform as well.

Simply put they are cheap for a reason

The only reason i didnt buy one was be ause there was so little info about them.
Went for an sc42 on the basis that the results were there to read.

But really who else makes them ?
Not that many out there you can buy brand new and bolt on ?

Tidgy 24 February 2016 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy (Post 11801525)
The only reason i didnt buy one was be ause there was so little info about them.
Went for an sc42 on the basis that the results were there to read.

But really who else makes them ?
Not that many out there you can buy brand new and bolt on ?

What the Chinese copy? Or the sc42?

SmurfyBhoy 25 February 2016 09:13 AM

I mean when i was looking for a decent TD05 18-20g
I was looking into them before i got my SC42
Couldnt really find anywhere that sold them brand new.
All i could find were ebay ones,

In the end i was gona settle for an older one and get it rebuilt here in the UK as id rather that than a chinese one for obvious reasons.

But i saw a very nice SC on this forum and just saved all the bother, it cost a fair bit more but as with everything you get what u pay for.

Sounds like this guy is having trouble with his fresh out the box which doesn't say great things about them.

Tidgy 25 February 2016 11:14 AM

Td05 are pretty old turbos. Not even sure if they really still made oem

banny sti 25 February 2016 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 11801797)
Td05 are pretty old turbos. Not even sure if they really still made oem

Its ancient turbo tech ;)

ian12 25 February 2016 10:37 PM

How come the yanks get good figures from these turbos ???

Tidgy 26 February 2016 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by ian12 (Post 11802219)
How come the yanks get good figures from these turbos ???

Yank hp is different to our hp.

SmurfyBhoy 26 February 2016 09:46 AM

Yea the only place i could read anything bout them was on the us forums.
Be interesting to see what this one makes when its workin properly :)

ian12 27 February 2016 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 11802298)
Yank hp is different to our hp.

What makes it different ??

JGlanzaV 27 February 2016 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by ian12 (Post 11802744)
What makes it different ??

They use real world hp where as we use calculated pretend willy waving hp ☺

ian12 27 February 2016 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by JGlanzaV (Post 11802755)
They use real world hp where as we use calculated pretend willy waving hp ☺

So there using WHP. So how come when these turbos are fitted over here people say there laggy and make no power. over there the results good...

JGlanzaV 27 February 2016 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by ian12 (Post 11802797)
So there using WHP. So how come when these turbos are fitted over here people say there laggy and make no power. over there the results good...

American tuning is a lot different to UK tuning. They are innovating and carrying out a lot of mods people in the UK wouldn't.

UK tuning is treading water at best.

A well trodden path of fitting the same old parts, get the same old results.

Fit rcm headers, don't want to lose the burble (restrict power, but it's a safe option)

Fit fuel pump

Decat etc etc.

Fit decent supporting mods and push the boat out and do some innovation and you may get the results you are looking for.....

4u2nv2 28 February 2016 01:11 PM

sorted any of your probs buddy. any news.

4u2nv2 13 March 2016 01:06 PM

??

SmurfyBhoy 31 March 2016 11:32 AM

Did this ever get Dynod at it's best ??

jayallen 31 March 2016 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy (Post 11815385)
Did this ever get Dynod at it's best ??

No disrespect fella but give on these cheap nasty turbo's that never deliver and buy something proven that delivers time after time after time..:thumb:

SmurfyBhoy 31 March 2016 12:03 PM

None taken,

If you had read ^^^ , I actually went for an Owen Developments tinkered SC42. (Peer Pressure)

However i'm still curious as to what a kinugawa can actually make, seems most threads involving these end this way with no concrete results,
(Guess due to unhappy owners)

If its **** fair enough but without proof nobody knows.

But im sure if it had spooled by 3k and made 430bhp we would have heard by now :)

jayallen 31 March 2016 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy (Post 11815398)
None taken,

If you had read ^^^ , I actually went for an Owen Developments tinkered SC42. (Peer Pressure)

However i'm still curious as to what a kinugawa can actually make, seems most threads involving these end this way with no concrete results,
(Guess due to unhappy owners)

If its **** fair enough but without proof nobody knows.

But im sure if it had spooled by 3k and made 430bhp we would have heard by now :)

I've been here long enough to see that these turbo's never deliver and even the one in the link at the start of the thread that made over 400bhp would be fcuking horrible to live with....lag, lag, lag and more lag.

I've read threads where they don't make boost, die during mapping or only last 1000 miles. They are cheap for a reason and if they were any good UK tuners would be pushing them but they don't, speaks volumes IMO.

SmurfyBhoy 31 March 2016 01:11 PM

Yep can read here this already had a fault :(
Most things that sound too good to be true usually are

Well mines mapping tomorrow so will see if my money was well spent :)

https://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-par...let-turbo.html

I bought mine off this forum no idea what i will make.


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