There really is no point in trying it.

just get a wideband and do the job properly tone and stop faffing around trying to make a sub standard sensor potentially read close to accurate some of the time. You would need to get a wideband to check whether it is right or not so just ditch tuning to the narrow band.

when you have seen as many differing results from the std sensors as Bob, me, Simon, Paul, Andy, Pat etc have seen you will realise the futility of what you are trying to do. Fine you have some spare time to fill but cant see the point in bothering tbh.

I wanted to know if anyone has back to back results on a newage with it in the down pipe

The first mapper that says yes and It was rubbish , then I'll stop and say its a fluke lol

We need a mapper who will be passing nottingham to call to yours toneh and check your readings with there wideband and see whats what :thumb:

It's been done mate , don't forget I had my car hooked up at scoobyclinic

Had the results been a mile off I would have dropped the idea like a stone

This is what's throwing me and the reason I wanted to know if anyone has done the same back to back ( maybe more comprehensively )

I get the feeling that the general consensus with it Tone is the fact nobody is going to bother to do it or recommend it due to the fact of the cost of a pukka AFR sensor compared to any possible issues with performance or repair that could arise from it and i think they dont want to be associated with it as such if you know what i mean ,

I paid £120 for my LC-1 and gauge and it has come in handy along with my fuel pressure gauge as my pump was failing and started to see 12`s at 1,3 bar or above, This was a quick visual thing so i knew straight away there was a problem, They do have there uses :)

Tbh mate I'm coming to the end of my 02 messing about Now ,
I don't think there's much more to do or say on the topic

I'm planning a motor rebuild and a mate wants a turbo fitting and seeing as there's more at stake , I would be daft not to get one

And After spending a while messing about and using my car as a guinea pig and finding out whats what ,it's probably time I start to take it more serious

You`re probably right mate, Its good to experiment with it but if/when it comes to costing a few quid its a different matter, Glad my issue showed up as a few gauges cost a hell of lot less than a new motor.

Can you log with romraider using the LC-1

Yes you can i believe, It also comes with software called LogWorks3, Not used it yet:lol1:

Cool , It just makes it easier for me because I'm more familiar with romraider logger , looks like its an lc-1 then

Here you go Tone, you can log with quite a few different ones by the looks of it:thumb:

http://www.romraider.com/Documentati...aiderFAQ#toc62

Cheers , yeah it should be fine
I had a quick look before and read quite a few posts about romraider updates to support the lc-1 , but most were from a million years ago

I hope it reads different to my sensor lol ( assume down pipe is ok for location ) otherwise I'm gonna be asking
Duncan
Simon
Bob
Pat
Paul
John

To all chip in for my £150 back ;)

Yeh, Ive got mine fitted near the factory sensor in the down pipe, Supposed to be fitted anywhere between 9 o`clock and 3 o`clock on the downpipe

How far from the turbo

Not sure exactly about 8" or so, I think they recommend around 12" from the turbo but if you need to get at it you dont want to be removing the downpipe, Not had any problems with it, Can get you a pic tomorrow if you want.

No that's fine mate , my current 02 is about 8" so I can fit it 4" after that ;)

Hi everyone,wright im not great on this side of things,my front o2 sensor has just gone, ive got bugeye wrx with these mod's, turbo back exhaust,3port solenoid, panel filter,remap,what i want to know is what the best o2 to replace my knackered one with,i am thinking of doing more mod's in future so for instance can i replace my stock o2 with a wide-band one or do i have to keep stock then put wide-band in as well,what's the best place to put o2? back in where it was? thanks for any help chaps/ladies...:wonder:

Unless you're gonna be running l/c or a/l I would suggest you put a stock 02 back in the original location
And you can add a w/b in the down pipe ,for monitoring /Logging purposes
You can do away with you're stock 02 if you're gonna run full time open loop , but will then need it mapping and a w/b anyway
But that's another kettle of fish ;)

ok cheers,so i could get rid of stock o2 & go wide-band,what would the benefits be going down that route? as i say im novice to this side of car.:thumb:. just had a quick look at PLX wide-band uego advertised on this page if ive read it right i could replace with that & have best of both worlds is that right or have i not read it right..

No mate ,not really , your car currently runs closed loop at idle and low loads I,e light cruise
Which means at this point your 02 is monitoring your fuelling and adjusting accordingly
Then under more load / boost / at the higher end switches to open loop , which depends more on the parameters set in the map + takes part reference to how closed loop was performing
Going full time open loop means its dependant on basically just the map and doesn't rely on the 02 for feedback and corrections in the lower range
You would then be using a w/b for you're own monitoring purposes

right got it,would you stay with a denso o2 or do you recommend any others that are as good,as ive looked at loads from universal from about £20 to denso which are anything upto £250 ish,dont think i trust the universal ones,but open for any advice.cheers toneh.

Stay with the proper 02 mate ( I know they're expensive ) I've not had any experience of the cheaper universal ones but read plenty say they are not that good and don't last well

You can't use a universal sensor on a Newage as they don't work.
Save yourself a load of hassle and get yourself a new genuine sensor and leave it in closed loop. Going open loop full time is all well and good but can be a pain come MOT emissions time if your map isn't cock on.