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ossett2k2 18 August 2018 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by Rick2017 (Post 12023078)
Do you map your own car or do you no how or do you just data log

Yes I map my own.

Rick2017 18 August 2018 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 12023085)
Yes I map my own.

is it hard to do.what did you pay for your daughter board software and cable

ossett2k2 18 August 2018 08:29 PM

ESL is defiantly user friendly.
"Hard" is subjective,it's defiantly satisfying to know you can tune your own motor.
If you're thinking of the DIY route then read the ESL user manual(several times),do plenty of logging,make small changes and take your time.
Cost was around 500 for everything but I think prices have gone up since(3 years ago).
BIG plus is when I've added parts like 3 port bcs,induction kit etc I don't have to pay silly money for map tweaks :)

Rick2017 18 August 2018 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 12023089)
ESL is defiantly user friendly.
"Hard" is subjective,it's defiantly satisfying to know you can tune your own motor.
If you're thinking of the DIY route then read the ESL user manual(several times),do plenty of logging,make small changes and take your time.
Cost was around 500 for everything but I think prices have gone up since(3 years ago).
BIG plus is when I've added parts like 3 port bcs,induction kit etc I don't have to pay silly money for map tweaks :)

I'm sorely tempted to buy and do it my self.are you running maffless? And how do you turn the immobilizer off ?

ossett2k2 18 August 2018 08:46 PM

Immobiliser is gone when esl is fitted,afaik! I've only had esl on my jdm cars.
I'm running mafless.
You will also need a wideband afr gauge/sensor and some detcans.

Rick2017 18 August 2018 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 12023091)
Immobiliser is gone when esl is fitted,afaik! I've only had esl on my jdm cars.
I'm running mafless.
You will also need a wideband afr gauge/sensor and some detcans.

HI so as soon as you plug the daughter board in it switches the immobilizer off straight away.? was it hard to convert to maffless ? When you say det cans is that the head phones measuring knock

ossett2k2 18 August 2018 09:15 PM

There are a few members using esl and diy mapping,I'm sure Ben Harris and piehole are running a uk cars,give them a shout or
Ring esl/drop them an email to make sure it will bypass the immobiliser,I'm pretty sure it does.
It's not difficult to switch to mafless,closed loop fueling take a little more work.
Yes detcans are used to detect knock.

Rick2017 18 August 2018 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 12023094)
There are a few members using esl and diy mapping,I'm sure Ben Harris and piehole are running a uk cars,give them a shout or
Ring esl/drop them an email to make sure it will bypass the immobiliser,I'm pretty sure it does.
It's not difficult to switch to mafless,closed loop fueling take a little more work.
Yes detcans are used to detect knock.

I've emailed esl this evening. To switch to maffless I no there is wiring involved. I don't have to mess with the fuel tables do I.

ossett2k2 18 August 2018 09:42 PM

Yes some wiring and a resistor to fit IF you want to run an IAT sensor.
Of corse you will need to adjust fuel tables,along with adjusting the rest of the map.
Have you had a read of the manual?
My mapping journey is a long(ish) story,but in short,my 1st ran maf....(car got nicked) 2nd/present car running mafless,remapped by a 'pro' but ran a very poor/unsafe map so decided to diy map after I rebuilt the engine :facepalm:

Rick2017 18 August 2018 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 12023100)
Yes some wiring and a resistor to fit IF you want to run an IAT sensor.
Of corse you will need to adjust fuel tables,along with adjusting the rest of the map.
Have you had a read of the manual?
My mapping journey is a long(ish) story,but in short,my 1st ran maf....(car got nicked) 2nd/present car running mafless,remapped by a 'pro' but ran a very poor/unsafe map so decided to diy map after I rebuilt the engine :facepalm:

I can see why you mapped the car your self. A crap mapper isn't going to help things.i haven't read the manual I thought it was only available when the software was bought. I didn't no a resistor had to be fitted either. I was kinda hoping of some sort of help and guidance with esl from yourself and pie hole and other members

ossett2k2 18 August 2018 10:47 PM

http://www.enduringsolutions.com/cat...cal-documents/

Have a read and see what you think
There are quiet a few members on here who have always been helpful including some proper pro mappers,I just play but play safe,every time I have a tweak I push it a bit more.
Very happy with how it runs so not touched it for months,until this week when I fitted the 3 port bcs so the fun started again :D

Rick2017 18 August 2018 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 12023118)
http://www.enduringsolutions.com/cat...cal-documents/

Have a read and see what you think
There are quiet a few members on here who have always been helpful including some proper pro mappers,I just play but play safe,every time I have a tweak I push it a bit more.
Very happy with how it runs so not touched it for months,until this week when I fitted the 3 port bcs so the fun started again :D

it's not an easy job is it.alot of resistors to remove on install isn't there.i have a spare 8s ecu ;) I can see my self asking for help

ossett2k2 18 August 2018 11:46 PM

Lol I cheated when I bought mine,just sent my ecu to Andy at esl and he fitted the board for iirc £10.
if you're handy with a soldering iron it shouldn't be too much bother.

Rick2017 18 August 2018 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 12023128)
Lol I cheated when I bought mine,just sent my ecu to Andy at esl and he fitted the board for iirc £10.
if you're handy with a soldering iron it shouldn't be too much bother.

:lol1:

Rick2017 19 August 2018 07:37 AM

And I thought I was struggling :lol1:

Rick2017 19 August 2018 08:54 AM

The bit I carnt get my head round is in the picture it says short jumper 900 in what way do I do that https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...aa1a5d489a.jpg

ossett2k2 19 August 2018 10:11 AM

To short a jumper you touch the 2 pins together.
I was A.Lazy B.didnt have a soldering iron and C.have fat circuit board breaking fingers! :lol1:

Rick2017 19 August 2018 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 12023140)
To short a jumper you touch the 2 pins together.
I was A.Lazy B.didnt have a soldering iron and C.have fat circuit board breaking fingers! :lol1:

so just touch to pins together. If the ecu was live wouldn't it do damage

ossett2k2 19 August 2018 10:59 AM

I'm sure a fair few members have fitted their own,maybe do a new thread and ask the question.
Like I say,I got a package deal and wanted motorsports pack adding plus electronic kind of scare me haha,for these reasons I sent my ecu to esl on the Tuesday and it was back to me by Thursday where it was just plug&play :)

Rick2017 19 August 2018 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 12023143)
I'm sure a fair few members have fitted their own,maybe do a new thread and ask the question.
Like I say,I got a package deal and wanted motorsports pack adding plus electronic kind of scare me haha,for these reasons I sent my ecu to esl on the Tuesday and it was back to me by Thursday where it was just plug&play :)

sounds good .What injectors are you on at the minute

ossett2k2 19 August 2018 11:03 AM

deatschwerks 740cc

Rick2017 19 August 2018 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 12023145)
deatschwerks 740cc

wow. Is yours a uk2000

ossett2k2 19 August 2018 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Rick2017 (Post 12023146)
wow. Is yours a uk2000

No it's a v3sti with a bigger turbo.

Rick2017 19 August 2018 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 12023147)
No it's a v3sti with a bigger turbo.

I think I need pictures of this car .750cc injectors has scope for 4-500 bhp hasn't it

ossett2k2 19 August 2018 11:11 AM

Yes the turbo is 420+ rated.
I will get it on the dyno at some point but numbers don't bother me tbh,just love the way it drives.

Rick2017 19 August 2018 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 12023149)
Yes the turbo is 420+ rated.
I will get it on the dyno at some point but numbers don't bother me tbh,just love the way it drives.

same. I just want a nice clean pull and ditch the immobilizer and the stupid maf

ossett2k2 19 August 2018 11:21 AM

:thumb:
pretty much the best money I spent on a car is esl
Eventually want to run a tablet permanent,got so much more stuff to do 1st tho so that's on a back burner.
This is just rigged up on a temporary mounting...

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...74ff484af7.jpg

Rick2017 19 August 2018 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 12023151)
:thumb:
pretty much the best money I spent on a car is esl
Eventually want to run a tablet permanent,got so much more stuff to do 1st tho so that's on a back burner.
This is just rigged up on a temporary mounting...

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...74ff484af7.jpg

nice

Rick2017 19 August 2018 07:12 PM

I could short the jumper by bridging the two pins with solder couldn't I

drischnie 20 August 2018 12:35 AM

i know that if you put an JDM V3/4 ECU into a 97/98 UK Car, you have to change the pins for crank- and camshaft sensor and fuel pump, cause of the immobilizer in the european cars...
does i have to do this too if an ESL board is installed in the JDM ECU that i want to install in an UK car? so for example: 6S STi V3 ECU with ESL daughterboard installed into an 98 UK car (8S ECU) .... does it start with the right map or does i have to resolder known the pins?


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