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BoozyDave 06 December 2016 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by ben.harris (Post 11901058)
Hmmm - OK, well mine's not totally standard. Internals-wise, it is, but I've also done the following to it:

- Cosworth panel filter
- 440cc injectors
- Ported manifold
- Harvey up-pipe
- Silicone Y-pipe
- 3" downpipe with 200 cell cat
- 2.5" stainless exhaust mid section and silencer
- 3 port boost control solenoid

Maybe I should be seeing more....

I would have expected more too, I would expect 270+ with the turbo being the limiting factor

ditchmyster 07 December 2016 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by BoozyDave (Post 11901246)
I would have expected more too, I would expect 270+ with the turbo being the limiting factor

Sport cat will be what's holding it back a little. I's a case of do you want the hastle come mot time for the sake of 10bhp.

Blowing exhaust won't help either.

In Duncans defence, I can see why with a blowing exhaust ond maybe some other small problems why he's not spent the time on it to stretch every last bit out of it, If I were doing it on a car with problems I'd just make it safe and tell him to book back in for a tweak when all the problems are solved and the car is in good shape to be looking for that "last bit"

Better safe than sorry.

ossett2k2 07 December 2016 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by ditchmyster (Post 11901311)
Sport cat will be what's holding it back a little. I's a case of do you want the hastle come mot time for the sake of 10bhp.

Blowing exhaust won't help either.

In Duncans defence, I can see why with a blowing exhaust ond maybe some other small problems why he's not spent the time on it to stretch every last bit out of it, If I were doing it on a car with problems I'd just make it safe and tell him to book back in for a tweak when all the problems are solved and the car is in good shape to be looking for that "last bit"

Better safe than sorry.

Blowing exhaust? Must of missed that part :wonder:

Matty81 07 December 2016 08:29 AM

If you knew you had a blowing exhaust. Why take it for a map though.

ossett2k2 07 December 2016 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Matty81 (Post 11901316)
If you knew you had a blowing exhaust. Why take it for a map though.

There is no blowing exhaust! Ditchy just made that bit up lol
A rush mapping session is what happened,which wasn't signed off with a final road run!
Poor form imo.

On-the-bog 07 December 2016 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 11901329)
There is no blowing exhaust! Ditchy just made that bit up lol
A rush mapping session is what happened,which wasn't signed off with a final road run!

Poor form

EFA :thumb:

ditchmyster 07 December 2016 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by JCR34 (Post 11899820)
Is this something I need to be worried about it going bang or will it be fine to carry on driving.

Has a slight leak on the up pipe so wondering if that's the cause of the fluctuation?

:thumb:

As usual people don't read EVERYTHING that's written. :razz: :hjtwofing

:lol1:

ben.harris 07 December 2016 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by ditchmyster (Post 11901360)
:thumb:

As usual people don't read EVERYTHING that's written. :razz: :hjtwofing

:lol1:

The confusion has come from the quote you were replying to suggesting 270HP+ should have been attainable and mentioning the sports cat (plus other mods) which was aimed at my car, not the OP's which has a fully de-catted, but blowing exhaust...

The OP hasn't had his car mapped yet. He was enquiring about Duncan and I simply posted to say that I'd had mine mapped by Duncan last month and gave details when people asked and has now somehow morphed into yet another "have a go at Duncan" thread.

The only problem Duncan had with my car was a vacuum hose that had gone brittle and blew off during the mapping session. It took less than 5 minutes to identify and resolve.

The Trooper 1815 07 December 2016 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by ben.harris (Post 11901456)
The confusion has come from the quote you were replying to suggesting 270HP+ should have been attainable and mentioning the sports cat (plus other mods) which was aimed at my car, not the OP's which has a fully de-catted, but blowing exhaust...

The OP hasn't had his car mapped yet. He was enquiring about Duncan and I simply posted to say that I'd had mine mapped by Duncan last month and gave details when people asked and has now somehow morphed into yet another "have a go at Duncan" thread.

The only problem Duncan had with my car was a vacuum hose that had gone brittle and blew off during the mapping session. It took less than 5 minutes to identify and resolve.

The OP as had a remap - Post 1.
He later mentions his blowing up pipe - "Has a slight leak on the up pipe so wondering if that's the cause of the fluctuation?" Post 35

PPPPPPP

"Recently had a remap on a blobeye Impreza. Has a couple of mods.

Fully de cated (2.5" I believe)
Miltek exhaust
Sti TMIC
NGK PFR6B spark plugs
Lightened pulleys
Walbro 255 fuel pump
Ramair foam air filter

Remap was done on a rolling road and only made 272bhp.

Always run on Tesco 99 Ron.

From the tuning guide I've read I should have expected around 280-290 bhp.

Any ideas why the short fall in power?

Cheers
"

ben.harris 07 December 2016 02:31 PM

Ah, OK. Fair 'nuff.

ossett2k2 07 December 2016 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by ditchmyster (Post 11901360)
:thumb:

As usual people don't read EVERYTHING that's written. :razz: :hjtwofing

:lol1:

YES @ @ditchmyster read the thread properly!!!
Dynamite Dunx didn't map the OP's car :hjtwofing

Nor did the OP have a sportscat:razz:

The Trooper 1815 07 December 2016 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 11901524)
YES @ @ditchmyster read the thread properly!!!
Dynamite Dunx didn't map the OP's car :hjtwofing

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Scooby_Lee101 08 December 2016 08:24 AM

Matty81 dont bother taking it to tdi, they are not a subaru specialist and may not be able to tune your car to how you would like it.

I have had my car tuned by Duncan for 4 years now, currently running 436 bhp, 385 torque, completely standard internals, just bolt on parts with 20% methanol mix, has run superbly well with no issues, for 20,000 miles.

Lots of launches as i do like a blat up the 1/4, fastest time currently is a 12.14 @ 113 mph, i am close to Lakeside at times, so if you fancy a test drive of how my car is, im more than happy to meet up.

Duncan has alot of haters on this forum, dont let them make a decision for you, i know its good to ask the question, but most of these people have probably never actually used duncan or had there cars mapped by him, they have heard stories, and feel the need to jump on a band wagon to belittle him and how he maps.

I too have heard stories of engines going bang, and bad mapping from every single tuner that have been mentioned on these forums, and yes they include RCM ,Scooby Clinic, Engine Tuner,Bob Rawle, Zen, etc etc etc

Its your money, YOUR decision, pros and cons where ever you go IMO.

Matty81 08 December 2016 08:49 AM

Thanks for the info bud. Had a look on tdi and they do specialise in subaru's reading their website. Won't be until next year though, so a while for me to decide where I'm gonna go.

On-the-bog 08 December 2016 09:23 AM

Lmao, its haters on him now? Given what i have read all over the place i think there a tad bot more to it than just haters.

I see he gave up posting on 22b after Andy made him looking like a monkey with a keyboard hahahaha

Use him at your peril

ossett2k2 08 December 2016 09:30 AM

No smoke without fire...
Or should I say...no explosions without dynamite!!!

jayallen 08 December 2016 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by On-the-bog (Post 11901739)
Lmao, its haters on him now? Given what i have read all over the place i think there a tad bot more to it than just haters.

I see he gave up posting on 22b after Andy made him looking like a monkey with a keyboard hahahaha

Use him at your peril

Why are you hiding behind a different forum name, something to hide?

On-the-bog 08 December 2016 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by jayallen (Post 11901761)
Why are you hiding behind a different forum name, something to hide?

I don't remember what my old login was since i hadn't been on for about 5 years so i created a new account. What has that got to do with anything?

Or trying to deflect the subject?

Scooby_Lee101 08 December 2016 05:28 PM

On the bog.

Clearly a Internet Troll.

Listen to him at your peril.

I have nothing to add, you have nothing valuable to say. I have no interest in you or any further comments you may add on any subject. Ciao.

jayallen 08 December 2016 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by On-the-bog (Post 11901764)
I don't remember what my old login was since i hadn't been on for about 5 years so i created a new account. What has that got to do with anything?

Or trying to deflect the subject?

I'm trying to deflect nothing just curious as to why you have all of sudden decided to log on 24hours today posting 200+ times when by your own admission, haven't been on for 5 years....

So what was your username before you "forgot" your login.....?

BoozyDave 08 December 2016 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 11901742)
No smoke without fire...
Or should I say...no explosions without dynamite!!!

Loads of mappers have blown up customers cars, loads of people were on the JGM bandwagon and he even killed his own engine while mapping it!

BoozyDave 08 December 2016 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by jayallen (Post 11901925)
So what was your username before you "forgot" your login.....?

I bet hes conveniently "forgot"!!!!!

johnlogie 08 December 2016 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by BoozyDave (Post 11901995)
Loads of mappers have blown up customers cars, loads of people were on the JGM bandwagon and he even killed his own engine while mapping it!

Killing your own engine is slightly different from killing a customers!
Never seen a bad word about Simon

BoozyDave 08 December 2016 10:27 PM

There have been a failures with JGM, but most were kept quiet.
He always had 'tweeking' days up our way, every other month or so. He charged £150 for a tweek and was doing 8-10 in 5 or 6 hours. Then 2 months later the same lads were paying for another tweek :(, surely if it was mapped well and within its limits, it wouldn't need tweeking every 2 months :(

When I first bought an Impreza 8 years ago I wanted it remapping, I nearly didn't have it done because I thought it would need a £150 tweek every 2 months to keep it running right :eek:

johnlogie 08 December 2016 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by BoozyDave (Post 11902004)
There have been a failures with JGM, but most were kept quiet.
He always had 'tweeking' days up our way, every other month or so. He charged £150 for a tweek and was doing 8-10 in 5 or 6 hours. Then 2 months later the same lads were paying for another tweek :(, surely if it was mapped well and within its limits, it wouldn't need tweeking every 2 months :(

When I first bought an Impreza 8 years ago I wanted it remapping, I nearly didn't have it done because I thought it would need a £150 tweek every 2 months to keep it running right :eek:

Yet no complaints on here? Why have there never been any posts about it?

My car was mapped 4 times by Simon because of different stages of tune. Never needed a "tweek". Had the car mapped at SRR, Area 52 and Scooby World. I didn't travel there from Glasgow for no reason ;)

Did Simon ever map your car?

ossett2k2 08 December 2016 10:46 PM

In the 10 years I've been on SN I've not seen one bad post about JGM's mapping.
Duncan is a different matter,and it's not just bandwagon witch hunt talk!
It's fact!

BoozyDave 08 December 2016 10:49 PM

He never mapped mine, I was put off by the constant need for tweeking.

Hence, I never comment on the quality/power of remap or drivability of his maps :thumb:

There have been threads on here over the years, but a lot were on local forums by reputable posters

BoozyDave 08 December 2016 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 11902014)
In the 10 years I've been on SN I've not seen one bad post about JGM's mapping.
Duncan is a different matter,and it's not just bandwagon witch hunt talk!
It's fact!

Has Dunc mapped yours?

johnlogie 08 December 2016 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by BoozyDave (Post 11902016)
He never mapped mine, I was put off by the constant need for tweeking.

Hence, I never comment on the quality/power of remap or drivability of his maps :thumb:

There have been threads on here over the years, but a lot were on local forums by reputable posters

Post a link then mate, would be an interesting read lol.

403 bhp (20% meth) on a 2.1 with TD05 18g supplied by JGM never missed a beat with 2 years abuse and no "tweek" needed. Engine still going strong at 500 bhp now.

ossett2k2 08 December 2016 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by BoozyDave (Post 11902017)
Has Dunc mapped yours?

Yes
I have the shattered pistons in my garage and,his poor map on my laptop.
Best place for both are in the bin!


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