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TonyBurns 30 April 2011 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by snake1906 (Post 10015119)
the 1,s for sale at 6k usually dont last to long as always you get what you pay for buy cheap and buy twice if your looking at a p1 for 6k then its either owned by some1 who cant afford it or its a dog... if you,ve got 6k to spend on a 2door buy a nice type r

Not really, they are 11-12 year old cars now, you could buy a 12k one with 28k on the clock, drive it up the road and the engine could let go, its pot luck.
There are several on pistonheads, cheapest one ive seen is 5k, had an engine rebuild, but I dont want a P1 (far too many cars as it is :lol1: ) then there is one saying the P1 was built to rival the type R's, well how can that be? its more of a barst@rdised version of a type R, then they go on to say its lighter... shows you how much they know :lol1:
You can pick up a good P1 from 6k, doesnt have to be a dog even, its what the people at the time wanted, a JDM car for the UK market, and this is what they got.
It dumped alot of the good bits off the type R as well (climate control got binned and the crappy uk aircon was fitted :cuckoo: and they didnt go for the rear 2 pots as per the type R) though there was the option of the WR upgrades, even the rear spoiler was a nice one off (HT auto's did those for Prodrive I believe) plus the original number was "only" 500, the rest were added when the first 500 sold, thats why you see lots of W and X reg ones, the Y and 51 plate ones are the ones that they couldnt shift... :(
It could have been "alot" better, but this is what I.M. wanted, if Prodrive had their way then it would have been better and they would have been able to spec it from the factory.

Tony:)

PS, I do own a MY99 version 5 type R, she needed a little bit of tlc but is a great car, I prefer my MY03 Spec C limited though, its just a much more precise point to point car than any classic ive driven (and quicker ;):D)

Tony:)

deco c 30 April 2011 08:59 PM

The PI is a Gay toned down version of the Type r..End of story..Only thing id ever consider 'borrowing' off a p1 to enhance a Type r is the front splitter!

Type R is the real drivers car :hjtwofing

SamP1 30 April 2011 09:01 PM

Loved my P1, easily the best looking and most iconic scoobies ever (22bs) aside. Couldn't even consider another scooby, they went downhill after (jap spec c's aside) and don't hold a candle to the newer Evos.

DCCD is a gimmick anyway, you'd be better off with ACD/AYC ;)

L.J.F 30 April 2011 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by garyburton (Post 10014968)
This one made me laugh. Let's see how much the mint P1's are worth in 5yrs + time compared to your bugeye sti "yawn"

it was bought for it's tuning potential not how well it can re-sell for! plus p1's aint holding value either;)

The Trooper 1815 30 April 2011 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by LongJonnyGspot (Post 10014969)
A standard P1 does have its flaws but I would not change mine for a Sti 5 , 6 or whatever. I'm not saying one is better than the other, ju.st I prefer having a UK car with full history and with better looks IMHO. 22b is the ultimate impreza but at £25,000, ownership is for more wealthy people than myself.

My STi 5 as full UK history. Grey import in Mar 99. Zero miles on the clock, there are many around and the reason the P1 exists was the Subaru UK response to grey imports as they did not have as good a car.

DamienP1 30 April 2011 09:23 PM

I own a P1 but my favourite is either the RB320 or a WR1........

not many subarus hold their price these days because most are desperate to sell..........

can't comment if a P1 is the best as I have not driven any others except an my99 turbo 2000.........but it wipes the floor with that LMAO

chrispy200+ 30 April 2011 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by SamP1 (Post 10015243)
Loved my P1, easily the best looking and most iconic scoobies ever (22bs) aside. Couldn't even consider another scooby, they went downhill after (jap spec c's aside) and don't hold a candle to the newer Evos.

DCCD is a gimmick anyway, you'd be better off with ACD/AYC ;)

Wouldn't call it a gimmick or it wouldn't have been fitted to all of the new sti's from about 2005 onwards.
Anyway, this is the sort of thread that is just going to go down the usual route with p1 owners saying they have the best cars. Yeah they are good cars but there is better out there in the range.
If the question is uk only cars then the story changes as in my opinion the better ones never officially made it to the uk dealers

chrispy200+ 30 April 2011 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815 (Post 10015283)
My STi 5 as full UK history. Grey import in Mar 99. Zero miles on the clock, there are many around and the reason the P1 exists was the Subaru UK response to grey imports as they did not have as good a car.

My type r has fully documented jap history from new and then full uk history

p1kris 30 April 2011 09:37 PM

I have owned an sti impreza, and an evo 6. civic type r, etc blah blah... My P1 is buy far the best motor i have ever owned, certainly one of the quickest and best looking subarus ever produced! (and i've not spent a 100k)

The sti's were good, Prodrive took it and made it twice the car!

No question for me! :luxhello:

snake1906 30 April 2011 09:40 PM

[quote=Guinness;10015148]I did...I think the Sti6 rear spoiler and front lip look miles better than the P1 stuff..


shhh you shouldnt post that on here alot of people will read it,i bet you made a few quid on the parts you took off and replaced them with parts that only cost a 3rd of the price

172sport 30 April 2011 09:41 PM

Not all hype, truely an awesome all round motor.

Best left std IMHO.

snake1906 30 April 2011 09:46 PM

[quote=deco c;10015241]The PI is a Gay toned down version of the Type r..End of story..Only thing id ever consider 'borrowing' off a p1 to enhance a Type r is the front splitter!

Type R is the real drivers car :hjtwofing

the p1 is a more grown up and better looking version of the type r

tempop1 30 April 2011 09:54 PM

I own a p1 and i decided to buy it purely for its looks as i deem it the best looking, well maybe the rb320 on par.

Common though guys, were all subaru owners here. We shouldnt be slagging different variants off. Pick on the Evos instead.... hehe

snake1906 30 April 2011 10:01 PM

[quote=TonyBurns;10015211]Not really,(YES REALLY I SEE IT ALL THE TIME)


they are 11-12 year old cars now, you could buy a 12k one with 28k on the clock, drive it up the road and the engine could let go,ID SAY IF THE ENGINE HASNT ALREADY BEEN REBUILT THEN ITS A TIME BOMB AS THESE CARS NEED TO BE USED NOT SAT IN A GARAGE



There are several on pistonheads, cheapest one ive seen is 5k, had an engine rebuild,WOULD YOU REALY BUY A P1 OR TYPE R OR ANYTHING WORTH LOOKING AT THAT CLAIMS ITS HAD AN ENGINE REBUILD AND ALL THEY WANT IS 5K? I THINK NOT



but I dont want a P1 (far too many cars as it is :lol1: ) then there is one saying the P1 was built to rival the type R's, well how can that be? its more of a barst@rdised version of a type R,YOU CALL MORE REFINED BARST@RDISED? HMM

then they go on to say its lighter... shows you how much they know :lol1:
You can pick up a good P1 from 6k, doesnt have to be a dog even, its what the people at the time wanted, a JDM car for the UK market, and this is what they got.
It dumped alot of the good bits off the type R as well (climate control got binned and the crappy uk aircon was fitted :cuckoo: and they didnt go for the rear 2 pots as per the type R) though there was the option of the WR upgrades, even the rear spoiler was a nice one off (HT auto's did those for Prodrive I believe) plus the original number was "only" 500, the rest were added when the first 500 sold,YES THE FIRST 500 SOLD SO FAST AND THE DEMAND WAS HIGH SO ANOTHER RUN WAS PRODUCED

thats why you see lots of W and X reg ones, the Y and 51 plate ones are the ones that they couldnt shift... :(
It could have been "alot" better, but this is what I.M. wanted, if Prodrive had their way then it would have been better and they would have been able to spec it from the factory.

Tony:)

PS, I do own a MY99 version 5 type R, she needed a little bit of tlc but is a great car, I prefer my MY03 Spec C limited though, its just a much more precise point to point car than any classic ive driven (and quicker ;):D) STANDARD?

deco c 30 April 2011 10:06 PM

[quote=snake1906;10015339]

Originally Posted by deco c (Post 10015241)
The PI is a Gay toned down version of the Type r..End of story..Only thing id ever consider 'borrowing' off a p1 to enhance a Type r is the front splitter!

Type R is the real drivers car :hjtwofing

the p1 is a more grown up and better looking version of the type r


If you want grown up then buy a legacy..

And as for P1 being better looking..I dont think so..I personally prefer the look my own Type r over a P1

SamP1 30 April 2011 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by chrispy200+ (Post 10015309)
Wouldn't call it a gimmick or it wouldn't have been fitted to all of the new sti's from about 2005 onwards.
Anyway, this is the sort of thread that is just going to go down the usual route with p1 owners saying they have the best cars. Yeah they are good cars but there is better out there in the range.
If the question is uk only cars then the story changes as in my opinion the better ones never officially made it to the uk dealers

If I wanted a rear wheel torque bias, I would buy a rwd car. If I wanted AWD that faciliated better handling I'd buy a with an AWD with actuve centre diff and yaw control... it's a gimmick.

snake1906 30 April 2011 10:18 PM

[quote=deco c;10015372]

Originally Posted by snake1906 (Post 10015339)


If you want grown up then buy a legacy..

And as for P1 being better looking..I dont think so..I personally prefer the look my own Type r over a P1


a legacy? thats not grown up thats oap well you will obviously prefer the look of your type r because its yours (no offence legacy owners)my standards are a bit higher hence the p1

jayallen 30 April 2011 10:23 PM

So what makes this P1 worth 13k?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2769182.htm

deco c 30 April 2011 10:29 PM

[quote=snake1906;10015395]

Originally Posted by deco c (Post 10015372)


a legacy? thats not grown up thats oap well you will obviously prefer the look of your type r because its yours (no offence legacy owners)my standards are a bit higher hence the p1


LOL..Its nothing to do with standards..You can pick up P1s in ireland now for similar money than type r's..

I just chose to buy the more superior machine :thumb:

tempop1 30 April 2011 10:32 PM

Hows he going to get the 400hp he mentions running a vf34?

deco c 30 April 2011 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by jayallen (Post 10015407)
So what makes this P1 worth 13k?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2769182.htm


LOL..fook all..Thats just a dreamer..Id say a P1 in good condition is worth 6k strling max..

Well in Eire it is anyway...Be lucky to get 7500 euro for one over here..

snake1906 30 April 2011 10:33 PM

[quote=jayallen;10015407]So what makes this P1 worth 13k?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2769182.htm



that is strong money and im not quite sure why its priced so high or what he spent 10k on?

but i know why this 1 is worth 15k

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2761485.htm

jayallen 30 April 2011 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by snake1906 (Post 10015439)

but i know why this 1 is worth 15k

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2761485.htm

yup thats a cracker :thumb:

snake1906 30 April 2011 10:53 PM

[quote=deco c;10015422][quote=snake1906;10015395]


LOL..Its nothing to do with standards..You can pick up P1s in ireland now for similar money than type r's..

I just chose to buy the more superior machine :thumb:

i agree the price of a p1 has dropped to match the type r but p1 parts are much more exspensive compared with a type r so although they may cost around the same money they cost more to take care of,just so you know what i mean p1 boot spoiler £2600 sti v6 spoiler £1100 current price new

snake1906 30 April 2011 10:57 PM

anyway fellas ive had great fun on here tonight some genuine people but as always a few not so genuine,i love all scoobs and am not slating any of them there are some very nice examples of all models modified or in standard form,if i get time ill come back and argue some more tommoro lol

deco c 30 April 2011 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by snake1906 (Post 10015502)
anyway fellas ive had great fun on here tonight some genuine people but as always a few not so genuine,i love all scoobs and am not slating any of them there are some very nice examples of all models modified or in standard form,if i get time ill come back and argue some more tommoro lol


Its been a pleasure :thumb:

LongJonnyGspot 30 April 2011 11:11 PM

[QUOTE=snake1906;10015439]

Originally Posted by jayallen (Post 10015407)
So what makes this P1 worth 13k?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2769182.htm



that is strong money and im not quite sure why its priced so high or what he spent 10k on?

but i know why this 1 is worth 15k

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2761485.htm

This is what you can get for £13,000. Bargain.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2773756.htm

VRS Koopa 30 April 2011 11:22 PM

As the P1 is classed as a limited edition your always going to pay a bit extra for that. As with anything that is limited edition.

fildigger 30 April 2011 11:32 PM

This is what you can get for £13,000. Bargain.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2773756.htm

WOW !!!

Could be the best car you could ever own !

RS_Matt 30 April 2011 11:32 PM

WR1 0-60 4.2 secs?


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