Originally Posted by eggy790
(Post 9642394)
yeah but if porting the turbo and toying with the wastegate will get you these results.. why isnt everybody doing it? what is the costy involved in doing this? does the cost make it not worth doing even though you have good results with it?
The actuator was approx £130 also fitted myself. So going by the 35 would not normally see 340+ thats what £3.75 per bhp, bargain :) Cheers Iain |
In answer to your "why isnt everyone doing it" question, I think that when most people max out their setup they opt to bang on a bigger turbo instead of having a play with the one they have. I did not have the money for a bigger turbo and loved the characteristics of the 35 so I had a little play with the wastegate and this is what happened.
Cheers Iain |
can we see some graphs please.
v good results there |
Graphs on first page
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Originally Posted by banny sti
(Post 9642431)
Graphs on first page
thanks Banny missed it somehow :brickwall |
Thats a lot of power @1.5bar...fairone.
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Originally Posted by jayallen
(Post 9642462)
Thats a lot of power @1.5bar...fairone.
Cheers Iain |
Big D,
Do you no longer suffer from compressor surge now? As in like 4th or 5th gear foot to floor, will boost build and stay perfectly or will it fluctuate? |
Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo69
(Post 9642486)
Big D,
Do you no longer suffer from compressor surge now? As in like 4th or 5th gear foot to floor, will boost build and stay perfectly or will it fluctuate? Cheers Iain |
That's real impresive mate. My car made 341/349 even with a cat on..:luxhello: not enough tho, got used to the power so quickly, thinking about time to get it over 400... That's when I got the doll of course:lol1::lol1:
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Originally Posted by Big 'D'
(Post 9641946)
All I did was toy with the wastegate, just wait and see what other results I get from other peoples cars. But even then I can already see some of you will be hard to please lol.
Cheers Iain I am not hard to please or have never doubted your sayings for a minute but 1 sunny day does not make a summer :norty:,so out of the 1000's of people who have vf35 turbo's fitted to there car ,the ones running over 370 bhp probably make up 5 -10% as a guess ,which means the other 90% which is the majority are running 330 - 350 bhp,so a guy who upgrades his td04 to a vf 35 can expect to see 330 - 350 bhp,that is NOT the limit that the turbo can take,but it is what the majority of people who have upgraded there turbos have achieved. Once again fair play for posting your graph ,and i am even more impressed as i was certain you must be modding the turbo slightly:Suspiciou ,as altering the wastegate on its own imho would not yield such good power gains .well done :thumb: |
Originally Posted by midnight
(Post 9642526)
Iain ,if you read my post it says" well done for backing up your words with hard facts:thumb:, the point which i was making and i will say it again that the NORMAL power you can expect from a vf35 with normal mods is between 340 - 350 bhp,and that is also quoted from the bloke who tuned your car:brickwall, No one has said it was not possible and you have quite clearly shown that it is and well done to you :notworthy for that, just as harvey said in the original vf28 post he had 367 bhp out of a vf28.
I am not hard to please or have never doubted your sayings for a minute but 1 sunny day does not make a summer :norty:,so out of the 1000's of people who have vf35 turbo's fitted to there car ,the ones running over 370 bhp probably make up 5 -10% as a guess ,which means the other 90% which is the majority are running 330 - 350 bhp,so a guy who upgrades his td04 to a vf 35 can expect to see 330 - 350 bhp,that is NOT the limit that the turbo can take,but it is what the majority of people who have upgraded there turbos have achieved. Once again fair play for posting your graph ,and i am even more impressed as i was certain you must be modding the turbo slightly:Suspiciou ,as altering the wastegate on its own imho would not yield such good power gains .well done :thumb: Thanks for all the feedback though guys :thumb: Cheers Iain |
Top results Iain. It has made me think now about trying to get more from my VF35 rather than just banging on a new larger turbo.
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I'm currently waiting for Bob Rawle to map my Spec C and having spoken to him he was amazed at the result and very pleased it had made the figures posted. :thumb:
Bob did tell me he thought the car was a 370+ bhp car, and I can assure you that Bob is no mug. :notworthy |
Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
(Post 9642610)
I'm currently waiting for Bob Rawle to map my Spec C and having spoken to him he was amazed at the result and very pleased it had made the figures posted. :thumb:
Bob did tell me he thought the car was a 370+ bhp car, and I can assure you that Bob is no mug. :notworthy Cheers Iain |
quote=Cannon Fodder;9642610]I'm currently waiting for Bob Rawle to map my Spec C and having spoken to him he was amazed at the result and very pleased it had made the figures posted. :thumb:
Bob did tell me he thought the car was a 370+ bhp car, and I can assure you that Bob is no mug. :notworthy[/quote] Bob also said the same to me:notworthy ,but he did say that was an 'exception' to all the other cars that he had mapped that were fitted with a std vf35 turbo's ,and yes your right C.F he aint no mug,he did an absolute 'stellar' job on my 2000 uk turbo :thumb: |
Originally Posted by midnight
(Post 9642625)
Bob also said the same to me:notworthy ,but he did say that was an 'exception' to all the other cars that he had mapped that were fitted with a std vf35 turbo's ,and yes your right C.F he aint no mug
Cheers Iain |
Keep it up :thumb: ,dont let people pull you down,or doubt you :nono:
Actions always speak louder than words - if you had not posted the graph ,people would have said B*****it,the results speak for themselves nuff said : |
Originally Posted by midnight
(Post 9642648)
Keep it up :thumb: ,dont let people pull you down,or doubt you :nono:
Actions always speak louder than words - if you had not posted the graph ,people would have said B*****it,the results speak for themselves nuff said : Cheers Iain |
Graph or not.... people still think it's bull****! :D :D
Iain, Don't worry about it..... I have had similar responses in the past! ;) Based on what Martyn has said about the temp correction, in reality you are talking about 370bhp. All the same.... still a great figure! Well done. :) |
So if the fettling of the wastegate gets these kind of results on the VF35 then surley similar fettling of other stock turbo's ie TD04/TD05 etc would also see over average results?
300bhp from a td04 :D |
Originally Posted by Tail Slider
(Post 9642683)
So if the fettling of the wastegate gets these kind of results on the VF35 then surley similar fettling of other stock turbo's ie TD04/TD05 etc would also see over average results?
300bhp from a td04 :D |
Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo69
(Post 9642688)
310+ from the TD04H ;)
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Indeed!
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Originally Posted by Shaun
(Post 9642674)
Graph or not.... people still think it's bull****! :D :D
Iain, Don't worry about it..... I have had similar responses in the past! ;) Based on what Martyn has said about the temp correction, in reality you are talking about 370bhp. All the same.... still a great figure! Well done. :) Cheers Iain |
Nice figures!. I am in the process of buying a VF35, to be fitted and mapped early next year. Would love to achieve those results, but i would fear for my gearbox, and clutch :)
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Originally Posted by Big 'D'
(Post 9642754)
Not sure what you are on about with the temp correction, it ran 370 with 1.4 bar indicated on my apexi then with just a 4% duty increase the apexi read 1.5 and the power went up to 380+, looking at the graphs the dyno only showed just over 1.4 bar pressure so there was further scope for power I think that 380+ is fair and very realistic.
Cheers Iain |
Porting the wastegate shouldn't have any effect on boost/power EXCEPT to prevent boost creep. IMHO.
I've seen a RR printout for 366 bhp on a car with everything changed bar the turbo... There's always a good one in every batch. :) dunx |
Originally Posted by dunx
(Post 9643111)
Porting the wastegate shouldn't have any effect on boost/power EXCEPT to prevent boost creep. IMHO.
I've seen a RR printout for 366 bhp on a car with everything changed bar the turbo... There's always a good one in every batch. :) dunx Cheers iain |
big D do you know if its possible to rebuid a VF35 yourself ? seen this rebuild kit on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Turbo-Repair-R...item4152ab0461
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