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davyboy 15 March 2005 03:54 PM

What sort of issues would you have insuring 2 cars?

It's easy if you can get one as a classic, but if you cant I imagine it can get expensive.

Dave

TheBigMan 15 March 2005 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by davyboy
What sort of issues would you have insuring 2 cars?

It's easy if you can get one as a classic, but if you cant I imagine it can get expensive.

Dave

Thats where the Mk2 GTi and the Pug come in handy.....

Jap2Scrap 15 March 2005 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by Dream Weaver
If you have size 2 feet and a Burberry cap maybe ;)

Cheeky fooker :D

FTR I have size 10 feet and the pedals were only an issue for about 2 days. It seems natural now and heel and toeing would be a cinch if I knew what I was doing ;)

Also - No Burberry necessary :D

Dream Weaver 15 March 2005 04:18 PM

Sorry :D

My sis had a VTS and it never felt that quick or special.

Gary - Pug has been in bits through choice tbh. I bought it as something to rebuild, to increase my mechanical knowledge, hence i'm taking my time with it and doing it properly. Not knowing so much beforehand means I have to read about stuff, then do it rather than judt diong it :D

I could've just bought an unknown Mi16 unit (which is what most do, and why they breakdown a lot), then stuck it in and away we go, but its been fun doing it the proper way, albeit costly so far.

From my POV, I dont have a great deal of spare time, so cant fiddle with the car in the evenings/weekends as i'd like.

A car is as reliable as you make it generally - get a good one of anything and you are fine - just look at C_W's Mi16 - numerous trackdays without problem.

MadMark 15 March 2005 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Dream Weaver
Sorry :D

My sis had a VTS and it never felt that quick or special.

Gary - Pug has been in bits through choice tbh. I bought it as something to rebuild, to increase my mechanical knowledge, hence i'm taking my time with it and doing it properly. Not knowing so much beforehand means I have to read about stuff, then do it rather than judt diong it :D

I could've just bought an unknown Mi16 unit (which is what most do, and why they breakdown a lot), then stuck it in and away we go, but its been fun doing it the proper way, albeit costly so far.

From my POV, I dont have a great deal of spare time, so cant fiddle with the car in the evenings/weekends as i'd like.

A car is as reliable as you make it generally - get a good one of anything and you are fine - just look at C_W's Mi16 - numerous trackdays without problem.

Your's isn't a Graphite Grey one is it? :)

Dream Weaver 15 March 2005 04:30 PM

Miami Blue, plus I have a reliable white 405 Mi16 as well :D

kammy 15 March 2005 05:12 PM

Also look at
Honda civic 90-92 VT. 150-160bhp, very very reliable.
Honda CRX 16v/VTEC.
The VTECs can mak 170-180bhp ish with manifold,exhaust,induction and IIRC teg r inlets. Full poly bush kits are $80 off ebay.COM. Full set of GAZ coilovers £480. Rover 623 brakes £120, and some Ferodo DS2500 pads £80 ish.
Worth a look;) My CRX was track ready when sold (16v) for very little.
Kam

ScoobyJawa 15 March 2005 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by MadMark
Oh dear ....... :Whatever_

OK - this was (is) meant to be used as a track car and so certain mods are required anyway (so it won't be standard).

Actually I think that quite a few road testers loved the MK3 Vr6 and it's hugely torquey delivery and changing the suspension to something like Koni adjustables (rather wise with an old car on a racetrack anyway) is only about £600 .... Most of the Pug boys seem to do this too!

I am a huge fan of the 205 - but for long fast circuits it does have it's limitations .... (BTW - I have also owned a 205GTi 1.9 and 2 x Golf VR6's - as well as a Mk2 GTI16V and I have just helped a mate build a 205 GTi with the Mi16 engine as a track toy)!

You pays your money - you takes your choice ....... :)

LMAO - how easy people bite on Scoobynet :rolleyes: :Whatever_

Anyway, if you want a VR6 you might as well buy the decent one, the Corrado :p

MadMark 16 March 2005 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by ScoobyJawa
LMAO - how easy people bite on Scoobynet :rolleyes: :Whatever_

Anyway, if you want a VR6 you might as well buy the decent one, the Corrado :p

Bite? Were you fishing? Pardon me - I just thought you were just ignornant / blinkered and therefore you needed a little reason in response to your post ..... ;)

The Corrado is a great road car - but as they are more valueable and actually weigh 55kg more than the Golf - I couldn't recommend it!
Also once you have gone past a chip change / throttle body / cone filter the power difference (of the 2.9 over the 2.8) shrinks from 16bhp to less than 5bhp. This makes a mildly tweaked Corrado slower than a Golf with the same tweaks!

Next! :D

Jap2Scrap 16 March 2005 11:01 AM

What about a G60? Is that more tuneable and a lighter lump than the VR6?

MadMark 16 March 2005 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
What about a G60? Is that more tuneable and a lighter lump than the VR6?

Good shout - but unless you can find one with a new supercharger - they are prone to failure at anything over 40K ...

ScoobyJawa 16 March 2005 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by MadMark
Bite? Were you fishing? Pardon me - I just thought you were just ignornant / blinkered and therefore you needed a little reason in response to your post ..... ;)

Mod this and its better than that blah blah blah, same with everything!

LMAO at you calling me blinkered! Quality - keep it coming, how people take the internet soooo seriously is comical :D

The Trooper 1815 16 March 2005 01:39 PM

Corrado VR6 anyone?

TheBigMan 16 March 2005 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Blue Dragoon
Corrado VR6 anyone?

Cost alot more than a like Golf.

MadMark 16 March 2005 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by ScoobyJawa
Mod this and its better than that blah blah blah, same with everything!

LMAO at you calling me blinkered! Quality - keep it coming, how people take the internet soooo seriously is comical :D

Yup - that's why my mate has just put an Mi16 in his 205 GTi - he wants to play at a higher level ... :)

Well just go and read your own posts - or better still - read a few of Guttman Pugs - he seems to know what he is talking about. :D

ScoobyJawa 16 March 2005 04:19 PM

oooooooh reallly :D

ticky 16 March 2005 04:20 PM

How about a MkII golf with VR6 engine, running gear etc.

MadMark 16 March 2005 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by ticky
How about a MkII golf with VR6 engine, running gear etc.

Tricky to do right (wiring nightmare due to all the VR6 sensors and getting the driveshafts to sit right) - but very fast!

Same theme is the 1.8T engine in a Mk2 :D

MadMark 16 March 2005 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by ScoobyJawa
oooooooh reallly :D

Yup - still got your Supra?

Brendan Hughes 16 March 2005 06:13 PM

I heard of someone trying to merge an early 4-motion (was it called Country? Jacked-up job) with a Corrado to get a 4wd Corrado.

Don't know what came of it.

ScoobyJawa 16 March 2005 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by MadMark
Yup - still got your Supra?

;)

Nope! R33 GTR!

The Trooper 1815 17 March 2005 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
I heard of someone trying to merge an early 4-motion (was it called Country? Jacked-up job) with a Corrado to get a 4wd Corrado.

Don't know what came of it.

Golf Country was a Mk2 with the PB engine 1.8. Permanent AWD. LHD only. Rare as an english rugby win. Have seen diesel conversions and nearly bought one. Poor parts availability, only ever made about 2500 I think. Most are on the continent. www.autoscount24.de is a good place to start. You can hit a button and get it into english.

Brendan Hughes 17 March 2005 12:47 PM

BD, I'm not building it, but heard it was a project of a friend of a friend - and this was in about 1992-3, so lost touch looooong ago...


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