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The Trooper 1815 24 June 2018 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 12015325)
i cant honestly understand why you would want to take drugs.

is your life that bad that you need to be out of your face to cope?

i cant imagine that many of you weed users would be happy if a person under the influence of it mowed down a loved one yet you call for it to be legal.........idiots.

drugs (illegal or not) bring problems,housing estates would become full of people walking around like zombies because they could smoke it like its going out of fashion.would you really want your kids growing up around that?

i worked on the doors for many years and ive seen 1st hand the shocking behaviour people get up to when they are on any sort of drugs. paranoia,violence,theft,hallucinations,anxiety etc etc. alcohol is a massive issue too and i believe the uk has very relaxed laws regarding drinking.

why the hell would you want to make it easier for people to get there hands on drugs? makes no sense to me at all, drugs should stay illegal-end of and anybody that needs them to get through life (apart from a medicinal purpose) do us a favor and end your ****ing misery.

plus weed stinks,i mean it really ****ing stinks-why for the love of god would you wanna walk around smelling like that..............

:notworthy

JackClark 24 June 2018 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by An0n0m0us (Post 12015244)
Absolutely not, sprinkling some on a pizza as a little extra herb or some crumbled in a cup of tea all works nicely etc. Basically put it in or on anything as ingesting it orally still works as well as smoking it.

However giving it to someone against their wishes is obviously more the issue even if it is for medical reasons.

That’s not true, there’s no effect unless you cook it. Look up decarboxylation.

SmurfyBhoy 24 June 2018 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by JackClark (Post 12015355)
That’s not true, there’s no effect unless you cook it. Look up decarboxylation.

guess u have never eaten a Henry of Hash lololol

SmurfyBhoy 24 June 2018 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 12015325)
i cant honestly understand why you would want to take drugs.

is your life that bad that you need to be out of your face to cope?

i cant imagine that many of you weed users would be happy if a person under the influence of it mowed down a loved one yet you call for it to be legal.........idiots.

drugs (illegal or not) bring problems,housing estates would become full of people walking around like zombies because they could smoke it like its going out of fashion.would you really want your kids growing up around that?

i worked on the doors for many years and ive seen 1st hand the shocking behaviour people get up to when they are on any sort of drugs. paranoia,violence,theft,hallucinations,anxiety etc etc. alcohol is a massive issue too and i believe the uk has very relaxed laws regarding drinking.

why the hell would you want to make it easier for people to get there hands on drugs? makes no sense to me at all, drugs should stay illegal-end of and anybody that needs them to get through life (apart from a medicinal purpose) do us a favor and end your ****ing misery.

plus weed stinks,i mean it really ****ing stinks-why for the love of god would you wanna walk around smelling like that..............

Love the smell of weed.

Love being stoned.

You sound like you have never actually been on an estate tbh

I choose to smoke it because i can.

If it were legal & i grew my own & smoked my own in my own home what harm is there in this ?

who are you to decide what anyone else does with their own body.

punish those unable to moderate.

same way we do with the alchohol zombies.

Cant have booze legal and weed not because i dont drink 😁

An0n0m0us 24 June 2018 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by JackClark (Post 12015355)
That’s not true, there’s no effect unless you cook it. Look up decarboxylation.

You put it on the pizza before it goes in the oven.

An0n0m0us 24 June 2018 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 12015325)
i cant honestly understand why you would want to take drugs.

is your life that bad that you need to be out of your face to cope?

i cant imagine that many of you weed users would be happy if a person under the influence of it mowed down a loved one yet you call for it to be legal.........idiots.

drugs (illegal or not) bring problems,housing estates would become full of people walking around like zombies because they could smoke it like its going out of fashion.would you really want your kids growing up around that?

i worked on the doors for many years and ive seen 1st hand the shocking behaviour people get up to when they are on any sort of drugs. paranoia,violence,theft,hallucinations,anxiety etc etc. alcohol is a massive issue too and i believe the uk has very relaxed laws regarding drinking.

why the hell would you want to make it easier for people to get there hands on drugs? makes no sense to me at all, drugs should stay illegal-end of and anybody that needs them to get through life (apart from a medicinal purpose) do us a favor and end your ****ing misery.

plus weed stinks,i mean it really ****ing stinks-why for the love of god would you wanna walk around smelling like that..............

For me it was a social thing with mates started at college and was preferable to going to the pub and getting in a load of attitude. Could have a better laugh round one of the groups place chatting/watching films and a smoke than putting up with aggro in the pubs. And for whatever reason or how sad it sounds now there was something very relaxing and addictive to rolling up a big spliff to pass round.

My eldest is at Uni now and it's rife plus all his house mates do it and I can't tell him not to do it but i've made it clear having it at a party is one thing but if he does it daily and becomes a habitual user of it he will fcuk up his degree. He wants and is on course for a 1st but he won't achieve that if he starts getting off his face every day.

Now I pass if offered it and have no interest in repeating what I did in my 20s as it just doesn't appeal now.

JackClark 24 June 2018 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by An0n0m0us (Post 12015379)
You put it on the pizza before it goes in the oven.

That will work, tea won’t though.

JackClark 24 June 2018 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy (Post 12015362)
guess u have never eaten a Henry of Hash lololol

Won’t do a thing, if it did then it probably had something else in it.

An0n0m0us 24 June 2018 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by JackClark (Post 12015383)
That will work, tea won’t though.

I never put in tea as I went right of hash because of all the sh!t that's mixed in with it so couldn't say but had grass plenty of times on pizza.

SmurfyBhoy 24 June 2018 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by JackClark (Post 12015384)
Won’t do a thing, if it did then it probably had something else in it.


so u have not tried it ?

but are telling someone who has multiple times

There is some truth tho in what mince ur talking.

i does needs to be in fat or butter

u could add to a yoghurt or butter two biscuits

but if hardcore like myself back in the 5 quid henry days was the best pre flight entertainment before a holiday.

and no nothing else in it.

i dont drink alchohol either.

SmurfyBhoy 24 June 2018 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by An0n0m0us (Post 12015386)
I never put in tea as I went right of hash because of all the sh!t that's mixed in with it so couldn't say but had grass plenty of times on pizza.


make proper hash using an ice machine and a whole lot of weed. Then u know its decent.

check out ice-o-lator hash. Bubble has u may have heard

as far as decarbing before making edibles it helps to get the most out of it but i know from experiance that it is not 100% necessary.

tastes rotten if u dont tho but hey its not about the flavour.

An0n0m0us 24 June 2018 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy (Post 12015388)
make proper hash using an ice machine and a whole lot of weed. Then u know its decent.

check out ice-o-lator hash. Bubble has u may have heard

as far as decarbing before making edibles it helps to get the most out of it but i know from experiance that it is not 100% necessary.

tastes rotten if u dont tho but hey its not about the flavour.

We were never into making it only ever bought it and that stuff is made with all sorts of sh!t so when we had access to a readily available supply of bud and super skunk there was no need for hash ever again. No idea what's out there now I haven't touched it since 2003.

SmurfyBhoy 24 June 2018 11:13 PM

Also unless folk are still making and selling moonshine.

then i dont believe u would still have folk dealing if leagalised.

the stuff you can get branded in Cali blows anythimg homegrown away.

Infact tubs that cost 20 bux in the states are sold for over 120 pounds on our streets.

who makes that money ?

and would they still make that cash when its sold down the high street.

SmurfyBhoy 24 June 2018 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by An0n0m0us (Post 12015389)
We were never into making it only ever bought it and that stuff is made with all sorts of sh!t so when we had access to a readily available supply of bud and super skunk there was no need for hash ever again. No idea what's out there now I haven't touched it since 2003.

exactly

you have no idea then

since being legalized it has exploded.

the "council" hash ur talking about with old plastic bits in it i have not seen in over a decade lol.

Check out

shatter hash

bubble hash

both made straight from plant. Zero impurities.

rosin.

The edible scene has gone crazy too.

capsules as well.

seriouly.

U quit when i 1st began

it has changed more than u could possibly imagine

^Qwerty^ 25 June 2018 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by markjmd (Post 12015323)
You forget that there's a very real limit to how low illegal sellers/producers could or would be willing to drop their prices, given that even after legalization they would be facing the same potentially lengthy prison sentences for large scale distribution and supply if caught and convicted as they would have done prior to legalization. Would they run the same risk as lightly as they do now with a profit-margin cut 5 or 10-fold, if not more? I highly doubt it.

Don't forget it would be HMRC chasing them down for tax/VAT - of all the government agencies not to meddle with, that's the top dog :)

SmurfyBhoy 25 June 2018 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^ (Post 12015413)
Don't forget it would be HMRC chasing them down for tax/VAT - of all the government agencies not to meddle with, that's the top dog :)

You should never mess with the Tax Man,

Just ask "The"Rangers,

Dr Hu 25 June 2018 11:08 AM

I had the odd spliff back in the day in my 20's - I had spliff once then drove my car to go pick up my girlfriend - I absolutely sh1t myself, the worse thing I ever did and I never did it again... I went back home slowly! I was 100% not safe behind the wheel.

I often think about that day - This alone for me makes it a no no.

However the s3x on it was great ;o)

wayne9t9 25 June 2018 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^ (Post 12015227)
Not read any further. This says it all to me. I've never done drugs but could do very easily if I wanted, so easy to get hold of. So sell it and tax it.

Related; the mother in law has MS and I've offered to get her some to try, but she refuses out blank because it's illegal. I think that's a shame. Me and the Mrs have considered getting some anyway and slipping it in something but we are not sure if you have to smoke it to get the benefits.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabiximols

Apparently the UK is one of the biggest producers/exporters of the above. I think it should be more widely prescribed for other things, not just MS. As regard legalisation for recreational use thats a different conversation.

SmurfyBhoy 25 June 2018 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by wayne9t9 (Post 12015440)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabiximols

Apparently the UK is one of the biggest producers/exporters of the above. I think it should be more widely prescribed for other things, not just MS. As regard legalisation for recreational use thats a different conversation.

What we export is nothing in comparison to what is consumed in any country where it is legal,

They just don't import it,

^Qwerty^ 25 June 2018 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by wayne9t9 (Post 12015440)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabiximols

Apparently the UK is one of the biggest producers/exporters of the above. I think it should be more widely prescribed for other things, not just MS. As regard legalisation for recreational use thats a different conversation.

I know a farmer who grows poppies - under some kind of licence though.

The Trooper 1815 25 June 2018 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy (Post 12015391)
exactly

you have no idea then

since being legalized it has exploded.

the "council" hash ur talking about with old plastic bits in it i have not seen in over a decade lol.

Check out

shatter hash

bubble hash

both made straight from plant. Zero impurities.

rosin.

The edible scene has gone crazy too.

capsules as well.

seriouly.

U quit when i 1st began

it has changed more than u could possibly imagine

"Zero impurities" that made me laugh.

SmurfyBhoy 25 June 2018 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815 (Post 12015470)
"Zero impurities" that made me laugh.


I guess you have no clue what your talking about eh ?

Quite simple chemistry tbh,

If you care enough to comment then care enough to understand what you speak of.

Best understand what your talking about before commenting,

This isn't Mexican finger hash buddy,

"If" i extract my own i would know where it came from, from seed to how it got there and what processes it has gone through to end up on the tip of my dab stick

SmurfyBhoy 25 June 2018 04:08 PM

Think of it as "Crack" Cannabis,

Mmmmm

the shreksta 25 June 2018 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy (Post 12015476)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOmu0TEAPG4

I guess you have no clue what your talking about eh ?

Quite simple chemistry tbh,

If you care enough to comment then care enough to understand what you speak of.

Best understand what your talking about before commenting,

This isn't Mexican finger hash buddy,

"If" i extract my own i would know where it came from, from seed to how it got there and what processes it has gone through to end up on the tip of my dab stick

do you drive whilst under the influence of weed?

SmurfyBhoy 25 June 2018 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 12015482)
do you drive whilst under the influence of weed?

Nope :nono:

That would be illegal, wouldn't it ?

What if i ran over some poor stoned fellow who has wandered out onto the road in his zombie state,

I could never forgive myself

the shreksta 25 June 2018 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy (Post 12015484)
Nope :nono:



What if i ran over some poor stoned fellow who has wandered out onto the road in his zombie state,

i would forgive you............1 less dead-head in the world is always a good thing

SmurfyBhoy 25 June 2018 04:26 PM

"Most groups agree that any intentional use is likely to mean that a person is over the limit for at least a period of 10 hours, in the case of saliva roadside testing"

As long as i can bake myself to sleep early enough to be safe in the morning ;)

As with Alcohol it metabolises differently so could be longer or shorter,

The problem is that you can buy off the shelf kits to check your safe to drive after drink.

AFAIK there is no such product for Cannabis users. (If so please link) :)

SmurfyBhoy 25 June 2018 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 12015486)
i would forgive you............1 less dead-head in the world is always a good thing

Think of a world without the folk who smoked weed in it,

From some of the great musicians, actors even scientific minds,

I reckon there are plenty of stoners out there who will and have achieved far more than you or i ever could.

Fastest man alive loves da doobies

SmurfyBhoy 25 June 2018 04:32 PM

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...-gates-w477669

From Bob Dylan to Bill Gates,

Shame on you stereotyping people.

the shreksta 25 June 2018 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy (Post 12015491)

da doobies

sorry buddy i dont speak teletubbies


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