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dpb 26 June 2016 03:01 PM

Mail has been pro remain for a while I think.....

Turbohot 26 June 2016 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by warrenm2 (Post 11850924)
Back on topic please.



My God Turbohot. In any other context you would be condemning such a sweeping statement. Are all Indians thick? All women thick? Of course not. Please as per the subject of this topic, take a deep breath here.....

Easy, Warren. I think it's you who needs to take a deep breath. I'll start again to make you understand what I said, as you have commented on my comment. Read Martin's post #28 again that I commented on. Now please answer: Are all Brexiters waving their Union Flags around on Martin's face as some kind of victory symbol? If your answer is no, then you may understand that I was referring to the ones that are. Not ALL. Hope it's clear.

Other thing is, please don't take everything I say so personally. On other thread, my comment on Farage got your back up. Come on, man. I didn't call you a frog face, it was Farage I was referring to. So what's your problem? Farage is a public figure; a party leader in lime light. Public members will comment on him; negatively or positively. I don't think that's anything against you; personally. Hope you understand that, too.

Edited to add: This is the second time I've had to request you not to take my comments on others personally. First time, it was that pre-general election steam build up when you got all upset because I called either Farage or UKIP bad. I do hope that in future, you don't take personal offence of anything I say.

JTaylor 26 June 2016 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11851054)
On a car related note anyone know if dsg gearbox fluid change is a diy home job or dealer only.
I.e specialist tools required?

This is NSR - go back to where you came from.

ALi-B 26 June 2016 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11851054)
On a car related note anyone know if dsg gearbox fluid change is a diy home job or dealer only.
I.e specialist tools required?


I'll be as helpful as you are sometimes:

Park it over a drain.

Drain it

Refill with Comma 20w-50

:razz:



In seriousness. There are several ways.

Proper way...fill via pump or gravity hose through the drain plug underneath, then vent out excess oil as teh gearbox warms up to 40C...measured via a OBD tool (VAG-COM etc).

Or DIY-er's way where you can measure what you drain out and put back in the exact same amount and fill via the filter housing on the top of the gearbox. This assume the 'box has a) the correct amount of oil in and doesn't leak and b) you don't spill it.

Top-tip...warm up the oil on a radiator before filling. As it takes ages to pour when cold and ages to heat up with a cold engine/box. :thumb:

neil-h 26 June 2016 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by JTaylor (Post 11851069)
This is NSR - go back to where you came from.

And take your German car with you, we don't stand for any of that foreign crap here. ;)

fat-thomas 26 June 2016 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by ALi-B (Post 11851071)
I'll be as helpful as you are sometimes:

Park it over a drain.

Drain it

Refill with Comma 20w-50

:razz:



In seriousness. There are several ways.

Proper way...fill via pump or gravity hose through the drain plug underneath, then vent out excess oil as teh gearbox warms up to 40C...measured via a OBD tool (VAG-COM etc).

Or DIY-er's way where you can measure what you drain out and put back in the exact same amount and fill via the filter housing on the top of the gearbox. This assume the 'box has a) the correct amount of oil in and doesn't leak and b) you don't spill it.

Top-tip...warm up the oil on a radiator before filling. As it takes ages to pour when cold and ages to heat up with a cold engine/box. :thumb:

So would you recommend just sending it to the dealer given its not as simple as an oil change and the car is only 3 years old and I don't have ramp access or is it possible on a trolley jack

ALi-B 26 June 2016 03:24 PM

DIY way can be done at home. The Dealer way is better being done by a garage as the car needs to be level when it re-filled.


Unless its a 7speed dry-plate clutch model....you don't need to change the oil on them. :thumb:

fat-thomas 26 June 2016 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by ALi-B (Post 11851091)
DIY way can be done at home. The Dealer way is better being done by a garage as the car needs to be level when it re-filled.


Unless its a 7speed dry-plate clutch model....you don't need to change the oil on them. :thumb:

No its 6 speed wet clutch version.
I'll go dealer route as it's only 185 quid doesn't really look a diy job.
Thanks ..


As you were :D

tarmac terror 26 June 2016 03:55 PM

I am genuinely curious about a couple of points I would welcome accurate insight on them;

There is speculation that other EU member countries may now elect to leave the EU, to take that speculation to its extreme this may create circumstances which over time cause the EU to fall like a house of cards. Are we now better placed, having elected to leave, than being forced to leave as a consequence of collapse?

If the UK was an important entity within the EU, why does it appear there is so much anger from the heads of nations that remain? the adjectives being used on here, and by others in the UK who wanted to remain depict sadness and a sense of loss, the soundbites from those in the European Parliament, have not been words of sadness, they seem filled with anger and bitterness about the UK's decision to leave, and I question why?

I cant understand why other EU political figures are angry at the UK - does our exit jeopardise the position of their own country within the EU?

I cant quite understand the dynamics of the relationship, which to be perfectly honest, was not something I had any real focus on before speculation began about offering a referendum.

lozgti1 26 June 2016 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by JTaylor (Post 11850958)
Afternoon, Loz, I hope you're well, my friend. I go to church in a village called Ogmore Vale in the Valleys. I see the tragic consequences of the mines being closed and the affect it has had on subsequent generations. It's a poor, badly educated, booze infected, drug-addled village in beautiful surroundings. They're the lucky ones: they've been deemed not sufficiently destitute to receive EU funding. The towns and villages that have received funding are even worse off. One of the aims of EU funding in these places is to give residents back a sense of pride, ownership and empowerment; an idea that they're not forgotten; the notion that they can determine their own future. The decision they made to bite the hand that fed them was an emotional one, a reaction to the perceived injustice of the haves and the havenots and deserves to be forgiven. There but for the grace of God go I.

Hi James.Hope you are well:)

Tbh,flippant post.lol.Just pretty tired of it all.Even my own parents in their mid 70's bickering like you would not believe over their differing views.How did people get reduced to this?!

Odd times and anger is certainly not my thing (as you know!):D

lozgti1 26 June 2016 04:11 PM

And Neil.Chill ....:thumb: I am not the antichrist and WW1 and WW2 were a bit more testing than than this nonsense.lol

JTaylor 26 June 2016 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by lozgti1 (Post 11851120)
Hi James.Hope you are well:)

Tbh,flippant post.lol.Just pretty tired of it all.Even my own parents in their mid 70's bickering like you would not believe over their differing views.How did people get reduced to this?!

Odd times and anger is certainly not my thing (as you know!):D

Fair enough, Loz. I have church at six; can't wait. It'll be like a little haven away from all this with my brothers and sisters in Christ. God bless.

lozgti1 26 June 2016 04:16 PM

God bless too.Have a good evening.:)

And life goes on everyone.Lets all deal with it nicely:)

dpb 26 June 2016 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11851053)
No I love the impreza up until 2008 that's why I had several over the years.
The hatch I just hate .


Originally Posted by tarmac terror (Post 11851109)
I am genuinely curious about a couple of points I would welcome accurate insight on them;

There is speculation that other EU member countries may now elect to leave the EU, to take that speculation to its extreme this may create circumstances which over time cause the EU to fall like a house of cards. Are we now better placed, having elected to leave, than being forced to leave as a consequence of collapse?

If the UK was an important entity within the EU, why does it appear there is so much anger from the heads of nations that remain? the adjectives being used on here, and by others in the UK who wanted to remain depict sadness and a sense of loss, the soundbites from those in the European Parliament, have not been words of sadness, they seem filled with anger and bitterness about the UK's decision to leave, and I question why?

I cant understand why other EU political figures are angry at the UK - does our exit jeopardise the position of their own country within the EU?

I cant quite understand the dynamics of the relationship, which to be perfectly honest, was not something I had any real focus on before speculation began about offering a referendum.

There's got to be less cash in the overall pot , no ?

So othersv going haveb stump up more , even more punitive action for late payers. No more entries to union,

Still spains done ok , look all that housing they've got infrastructure cross Europe. Can't see that being torn down

alcazar 26 June 2016 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by JTaylor (Post 11850867)
Jeff, you've moaned constantly for years about almost everything. Fellow remainers and I are in mourning over a divorce that's of catastrophic and global consequence and we wish to express our sorrow, our regret and our concern at this event on the very same forum you use to whine about trivia. Reflect on your hypocrisy.

I don't feel I'm being hypocritical. I've taken enough stick about my serial moaning over the years, but in the end, we need to put away the nastiness and GET ON WITH IT!!!

alcazar 26 June 2016 06:31 PM


I'd like to point our we all know Alcazar is a moaning old fart. Its a given constant worthy of its own greek symbol. :lol1:
Hey...........:D

I'm unsure where this thirty year low is coming from, in 2005 or so, I got €1.01 per £1/ we referred to it as "Gordon's puny pound".

ALi-B 26 June 2016 06:54 PM

I forgot about the "Puny Pound" LOL.

But there you go...where has this 30 year low sound-bite come from? The same person that painted the Brexit bus?

Martin2005 26 June 2016 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by ALi-B (Post 11851222)
I forgot about the "Puny Pound" LOL.

But there you go...where has this 30 year low sound-bite come from? The same person that painted the Brexit bus?


The pound did fall to a 30 year low versus the dollar, why are you saying it didn't.


These guys know what they're talking about so you probably take it up with them ... http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8d8a100e-3...#axzz4CiGZtIWd

ALi-B 26 June 2016 07:59 PM

I can't...need to pay £2.65 to view it :lol1:

to reiterate from my ealier post:


Originally Posted by ALi-B (Post 11851050)
Again...another article with inaccuracies.

30year low, eh?

http://www.exchangerates.org.uk/GBP-...e-history.html

Today its €1.2319 to the £
On April 7th 2016 its €1.2358 to the £

So a low with just a 0.0039 difference....30years?

OK maybe the Dollar......

Today its $1.3681 to the £
On Feb 28th 2016 it was $1.3862 to the £

0.0181, ok a bit more

But come on...0.0181 difference from the last low only 4months ago is a world apart from a "30 year low"

So as Nick Chohen says, yes, There are liars. But, there is also sensationalist, Islamophobic, Iraqi war supporters who are paid to spout objectionable opinions by drawing from loose facts....need I say more?

The last low we had against the Dollar was in February this year: http://www.exchangerates.org.uk/GBP-...e-history.html

Additionally it recovered by 0.03 straight after it "crashed". Its only stagnant now due to the weekend.

ALi-B 26 June 2016 08:10 PM

Another source:

http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?fr...o=USD&view=10Y

That shows it also dropped to 1.3860 in 2009.

Obligatory Guardian link --->https://www.theguardian.com/business...ing-dollar-low


That's 0.0001 different to today!!

Martin2005 26 June 2016 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by ALi-B (Post 11851252)
Another source:

http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?fr...o=USD&view=10Y

That shows it also dropped to 1.3860 in 2009.

Obligatory Guardian link --->https://www.theguardian.com/business...ing-dollar-low


That's 0.0001 different to today!!


The pound dropped as low as $1.3224 on Thursday, which is a 30 year low - according to the FT anyway

ALi-B 26 June 2016 08:30 PM

The lowest on my latter XE.com link showed it as $1.34104 at 5:00am UTC but it bounced straight back up after 3 hours.

Someone made some money that day, I'm sure of it.

JTaylor 26 June 2016 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 11851208)
I don't feel I'm being hypocritical. I've taken enough stick about my serial moaning over the years, but in the end, we need to put away the nastiness and GET ON WITH IT!!!

You're right. Back from church after a tremendous sermon, missus has filled my stomach with garlic infused chicken and I have half an Old Speckled Hen at my side. Sorry for lashing-out, Jeff.

JTaylor 27 June 2016 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Munk (Post 11850852)


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hodgy0_2 27 June 2016 07:56 AM

JT, I wrote a quite long post last night on the irony of the Brexiteers now saying people need to work together

I can't be bothered to re-write it

But preumably "working together" is now good

JTaylor 27 June 2016 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by hodgy0_2 (Post 11851371)
JT, I wrote a quite long post last night on the irony of the Brexiteers now saying people need to work together

I can't be bothered to re-write it

But preumably "working together" is now good

It's power consolidation. The remainers need to decide whether they want to limp (probably half-heartedly) along to a new dystopia or whether they want to resist.

hodgy0_2 27 June 2016 08:19 AM

Yes, the term for it "Serengeti Strategy" we have been separated from the herd

Just heard a car crash interview from a postman in Newcastle - voted leave

But you could hear the fear in is voice, as the presenter pressed him on whether his workers rights would be protected outside the EU

Very sad - he was a decent man, but I fear led like a lamb to the slaughter

Paben 27 June 2016 08:19 AM

Come on you guys, it's time to shape up and get on with it now, this whining self pity is becoming extremely dreary. The UK will not only survive it will thrive having detached itself from the smothering effect of a failing EU. We have never had both feet in the EU camp anyway, and now that we have chosen to step out of it completely others will surely follow.

The fighting spirit of the British is never in doubt but it needs something like Brexit to bring this out. I voted to remain but I'm confident that 'out' we will do just fine. The hand wringers need to stop booing now and get behind the nation's decision.

alcazar 27 June 2016 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by JTaylor (Post 11851306)
You're right. Back from church after a tremendous sermon, missus has filled my stomach with garlic infused chicken and I have half an Old Speckled Hen at my side. Sorry for lashing-out, Jeff.

Thankyou. That puts you back where I thought you were;)

Seriously, if I post on too many drinks, I write stuff I regret the next day. That's why I don't post much after 7pm.:lol1::lol1: Maybe hunger does the sdame for you. My wife says I'm stroppy when my blood sugar level is low.

alcazar 27 June 2016 08:25 AM

As regards those now showing fear/regret.

It really is a normal human reaction, that of trying to second guess everything.

Have none of you ever been faced with a choice before? And when you made it, did none of you ever spend time agonising over whether it was the right one? I know I ha

Plus, when I moved jobs as a younger man, I was full of fear.

It's normal. If we didn't do it we'd not be intelligent humans.


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