I paid for my own lessons and my first and every car since .. thinking back my lack of driving skill and the poor quality cars, I was very lucky, I'm saving as I go so I have the cash to help my kids buy a decent first motor, small engine but very safe.

They'll need a job to run it ..

Lieing down to drive like hes in some kinda pop video doesnt help,hes a fecking tool

oh god he doesnt do that does he... i see that alot these days and cant help thinking "what a spanner"

Ffs :mad:

You never let him play gta as a kid did you :confused:

*nips off out to buy mario world for my lad*

See it a lot nowadays. I passed my test ages 19 on Feb 11th 2011.

Paid for all my own lesson's and both parts of my test witch i passed first time luckily ( even after the DVLA done me out of £60 for the actual test due to double booking) Barstewards!!

Once i past i managed to pay the majority for a 2001 leon 1.4S:hjtwofing

Thought i was the boy. . Until on Feb 15th it needed its mot !! :cry::cry:

long story short £800 quid lighter and working my tit's off to being able to live for next 6 months. I took pride in my car. it got me to work 40 mile round trip, Meant i could drop a lass off from my work at night ( worked as a barman). :luvlove: at her house via a few detours !! Oooh err :thumb:

Yes it wasnt the best car in the world, slow as ****, cost me a fortune to run and insure etc. But because it gave me that freedom to work and socialize in different way's to when i wasn't driving, Most importantly, Rush my mum to hospital when we thought she was away to pass away from the side effect's of the cancer treatment drug's.. thankfully made a good recovery to this day.

Miss that car like hell. Would love to buy it back as a little runner . . Would make me happy.

Oh and for the OP: If your son wants to learn to drive or get a car properly, let him prove to you that he will work for it. As to be honest it doesn't get easier as you get older. encourage him with a fund sort of thing ( £50 a week into saving's and you will put in £40 or something)

Oh and never put them on your policys. From experiance, , get your own no claims built up and youll start to get more appreciative of the plus point's of safer driving

I remember as a kid catching two buses to my first job until I could afford a motorbike and then saved up for a car.

I got a course of 10 lessons for my 17th birthday and that was my lot, after that I had to pay for a few more as I failed first time through nerves and inexperience, then bought my first car a mini halves with my mum as she wanted me to give her lessons/ time in a car as she failed 5 times, also mostly through nerves as she was a better driver than me but just went to pieces on the test.:lol1:

Never crashed it and did all the stuff that 17yr old kids do to their cars, drove it till it wouldn't pass an mot which was about 3yrs and scrapped it and bought a 2.0l ford cortina with cash i'd saved and a £500 loan from bank of mum and dad and paid that back too, never crashed that either, then bought an Audi GT ran that for a few years but started getting company cars after that so just bought cars for fun and to do up and sell on as a hobby, made a few quid too.

Kids these days don't appreciate stuff as it's all handed to them.

I'll be taking the approach that my brother in law took with his two boys with my lad which is buy a knacker/ non runner/ no mot etc and help / teach them how to fix it up, both his lads are competent diy mechanics and still buy sheds and fix them up to this day.;)

Not all young lads are morons behind the wheel. I paid for my lads lessons ,test and pass plus when he was 17. When we looked into getting him on the road the insurance premium was just why more than i was prepared to pay. He understood and never moaned once. When he turned 20 we managed to put him as a named driver on his mums insurance. He doesn't get to drive often as he is at uni and cant have a car there. When he is home he drives and to be honest he drives like an old lady :lol1: When he first got behind the wheel he was very rusty as he passed his test 3 years before so he went out and bought himself some 'P' plates, which i thought was very responsible and considerate. He considers the use of his mums car a privilege, not a right and never takes it for granted.

Too many kids these days are handed everything on a plate :nono:

No offence intended here Buster, bought IMO you've brought this current situation entirely on yourself. If you had punished him properly after the first and second incidents, then the subsequent escalations would/could not have happened :thumb:

If that had been our lad, the first incident would have resulted in an almighty bollocking and financial restitution. The second, grounding, restitution and removal from the insurance, and probably also a decent punch to his w@nking arm :)

Sounds like a right laugh :lol1:

Coffee on keyboard! Brilliant!:D:D:D

I had learnt to OPERATE a car from a young age from living on farm and having a long drive. Then when I was 17 my parents said they'd pay for my lessons and that's when I learnt to DRIVE!

Took me 6 lessons before I passed my test and that was that! If I wanted a car I had to buy it myself. My dad insured me on his battered old Volvo 240 "farm car" but ONLY when he was away so that I had a form of transport to get to the farm and home to cover for him whilst he was away.
A few months later my gran bought an E reg Polo off my uncle for £250 (he TOTALLY ripped her off!!) for me and my 2 cousins to share (they were about to start learning).

As it happened one of them got given a ****box metro by some codger in their village and my other cousin was too scared to drive so I had sole use of the Polo.
This car was a total pile of w@nk and incredibly embarrassing! One day the windscreen wipers just gave up so I had to turn round and head back home with my arm out the window manually moving the wiper up and down!!! I had to pay my own insurance, fuel, repair bills etc!

This really inspired me to save up for my own car and RESPECT it!!!

Its called Respect ! Just because you have respect doesn't mean you cant have fun or be "a good laugh"! :Suspiciou

Well 2 days without driving is killing him...why do I feel guilty ? I may give in :(

Dont....

Or your a bigger tool than him..

He needs to learn,and giving into him isnt gonna do that..

This!

This is probably why you find yourself in the situation you currently are, I'm only going to guess you've been too soft with him?

Do you think he's learned his lesson in the two days he hasn't been behind the wheel? I would put money on the fact he's learned fcuk all TBH.

Get ready for more misery, mayhem and breakages 'when' you hand those keys over again. Your going to be your own worst enemy TBH

Wait for it
" you don't care "
http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3307d91c.jpg
" I hate you "

It'll polish out :)

Ok I am weak,even though I want to I cant stay angry at him...if he cant drive he will hang around here and do my head in....its the lesser of 2 evils...I now remember why I insured him in the 1st place.

You've not got to stay angry , you've just got to make a point
And two days ain't gonna achieve nothing

Sounds like your son is the man of the house and you're his bitch.

If i had done that when i was his age my dad would have kicked my arse!! Hence i didn't and he didn't have to ;)

+1

A bit of tough love needed.

This! This is what is wrong with parenting today.

What a shocking example to show your kids.

I wish my dad had given me a car to drive,then i ****ed it up and smashed it to bits without a care in the world and 48 hours later everything was ok again...

I would suggest your the tw@t,and your son is taking the piss out you,knowing that he can..

TBH, you're copping a lot of flack on here....... and rightly so. Unless this an ultimate trolling.
All you've done is made this problem yourself..... come on here to b1tch and complain about it...... and given in.

What would you like people to say? They understand? They'd do the same thing? Well, the responses you've got may give you that answer.

Tell you what, why not show your son this thread - not being nasty but if you haven't got the balls to admonish your son for what he's done to YOUR car, then perhaps a guilt trip of seeing how the public are reacting to your perceivably ineffective parenting might make him think about what he's done.

It's true: the internet can sort out your problems.

WTF?!

Ok ...He is on a 10pm curfew,he has been bollocked to death by myself and his mother and he is paying for repairs...I pay his wages so am going to take it weekly.....my big problem is I also employ him and need him driving so it makes it harder than just taking the car off him....Lets hope he learns from it...

Unfortunately for you'll need to see this one through just so he learns from it Buster, it'll be a harsh lesson for him but hopefully he will have a little more respect for other peoples property afterwards.

Learns from what?

At the end of the day after crashing your car numerous times and smashing your electronic gate up, he wasnt allowed to drive for 2 days?

Sorry mate, thats not really a punishment, but at the end of the day he's your kid.

Next time he crashes your car, go out an buy him a Porsche, that'll show him.