Is the miltek really so much lighter?

I've tried a jdm Sti with the Litchfield twin scroll turbo making over 400 bhp and I was pretty impresses by it. I'm not convinced it can match the standard setup for spool and throttle response though. On a challenging give & take road you may well be quicker with the standard tubby.

Indeed undersell is an option, but adds weight... Mine is waxoyled instead. After 6 years there's stil no sign of rust underneath. The arches have been undersealed though.

Yeah it was pretty epic - left at 8 and drove right through the night!

Met two other guys on the Chunnel who had been over to the uk to buy cars and bring them over to the continent. You just don't get cool metal like that over on the mainland.

So it's claimed by Miltek suppliers, but that is probably the Catless and not the Sports Cat version.;)

i have a Spec C Ltd, 1370kg with A/C and a few electrics. I've had it on a weigh bridge and came in at 1340kg with very little fuel, AST coilovers and Miltek. Car also has a very light weight battery

Always amazed to see how much attention and replies a simple Spec C thread gets within a few days. :D

I used to be amazed by it too, but now that I own one I can see what all the fuss is about!

So the catted miltek will probably be at least 15kg lighter. The standard exhaust is unbelievably heavy!

You're right.... I have NEVER looked back since moving from a SPEC C to a JDM STI! :lol1:

Was that with the spare wheel & jack removed?

Was the intercooler spray bottle full?

ah yes, but you had a blob Spec C didn't you?

The hawk seems to be a bit better suited for daily use - climate control, decent interior etc.

No doubt the JDM sti is a hell of a car as well.

You were just getting old Shaun and needed some creature comforts :lol1:

Tony:D

Still the car of choice for the discerning scooby owner, some of us have been there many years ago though :smug:

TX.

Popcorn moment ;) hawk spec c vs hawk jdm sti - not a lot in it.

TX.

That's all well and good, but the JDM cars are harder to insure.

Its a myth ;) no problems if you go with a speciallist, its only if your bog standard direct line type company doesnt understand what the car is, that is when you have issues.

Tony:)

MadUsa1,
First of all you have a great car. I love JDM's, I love STI's and I love the SPEC C.

However :D ......

IMO my old SPEC C (version I mean) was what a SPEC C should of been about, a proper track focused car without all the electric crap, air-con etc etc that came on the later cars, to make it more "comfortable" PAH!!!

IMO there really is no need to buy a Hawkeye SPEC C over a Hawkeye (JDM) STI. They are too similar and imo don't warrant any inflated prices (if this is the case on a like for like basis). In fact I would go as far as saying that if you had a JDM STI Blobeye MY05 (with widetrack), the situation would be the same against a Hawkeye SPEC C.

When you start modifying these cars, this is when things start to become less about whether it's a SPEC C or lowly STI. ;)

Take mine for example..... it will be quicker on the road and track than yours at the moment, regardless of whether yours has the "SPEC C" sticker on the back. I know that sounds obvious, but I'm just trying to highlight that having a SPEC C is more about emotional stuff, rather than how great a car it is compared to others.

I suppose I'm like a smoker who has given up and we all know there is nothing worse than that! lol

Enjoy your car mate.... it appears to be a cracker! :)

Tony,
How old are you again Tony? ;)

Having read your "starting again..." thread from start to finish I don't doubt that!

I'm going to try to stick to your mantra that "370 bhp is the optimum power output for a JDM STI". Let's see how I get on with that...

Like you, I spend a lot of time on the track so I'm quite pleased about the engine oil cooler, transmission oil cooler, revised radiator and water pump, roller bearing turbo, anti-surge fuel pump, roof scoop, rear strut brace, stiffer chassis and 12L IC spray.

I know you could easily add all of these things aftermarket, but it would cost you a few bob and it's part of the reason I think the Spec C will always command a small premium over the JDM STI.

i love it, looks great. about the jdm hawk vs spec c arguement.
i thought the idea of the spec c was it was more of a track than road car and the fitted oil coolers and revised pumps and stiffened up the chassis to make it more reliable and faster on the track out of the box.
it was more about handling than outright straightline speed.
having driven a spec c and newage stis, the spec c feels more planted and faster through the turns, straightline speed wise it felt very similar but id have the spec c anyday.

Perhaps that's if you're mainland based

Just try getting a sensible quote in N.Ireland :cry:

Did I say 370bhp is the "optimum" power output? :o :D

Unfortunately I hardly spend any time on track nowadays (I used to though). In fact the last competition event I did was in March 2011. :( I must get my arse into gear, either that or get my coat! :cry:

If your main use will be track, then the Spec C is better suited out of the box for sure. :)

Yeah I'm sure you wrote that somewhere.

I wanted to ask actually: how much of that lovely lag-free throttle response did you lose when moving to a larger turbo?

Cracking thread :)

Welcome to the Spec C club bud !
(Although proper spec C's dont have electric windows lol :))

Awsome car mint

Gorgeous car man!!!!

Great review too makes for good reading!

I used to have a red one form litchfields and am tempted to get another, keep looking at the One juggers has, The Spec RA but the paint job is putting me off.

Mac

Which one does juggers have?

Matt black (painted) spec c type ra!

TX.

Spare wheel and jack removed. I/C tank mostly empty ... i think??
It was a competition between myself and my brother who had a classic wagan with no A/C . His came in at 1240!! but he cheated and removed his seats as well :lol1:

As long as you keep it away from salt, it can look like this. ;)
https://www.scoobynet.com/members-ga...-years-on.html

MadUSA1
You've bought yourself a lovely example of a Type 20 there. :thumb:

Thanks for the comments guys. The previous owner took extremely good care of it.

Yours is certainly one of the best colours imo..... maybe I'm biased though! lol

http://www.shaunfennings.plus.com/hawkeye/hawkeye2.jpg

I am not convinced the Spec C is a stiffer chassis than a JDM STi, if anything it's likely to be less stiff as i believe it has some chassis sections with less material in them to reduce weight.

My Widetrack MY05 JDM STi weighs 1444Kg with 1/4 tank of fuel and everything on board.

Had mine just over 3 years now and put 34K miles on it, best Subaru i have owned as an allrounder.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...8072011552.jpg