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Rob Day 19 January 2011 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by Parrg341 (Post 9831398)
Raceland :thumb: I hope theyll do them cheaper if theres a few for order. Group buy thread!:norty:

The idea of the group buy was to get a list formulated on here, and then order say 5 sets or more at once, but 'Raceland' came back with £350 which around £70 cheaper than there current sale price with no restrictions on the number of minimum orders.


So if you want them now then its £350

OR

If you want to formulate a list on here, then Im sure we can work on the price. Phil seems very reasonable so Im sure a further discount is avilable if bulk ordered.

HTH
Rob

scooby1664 19 January 2011 10:43 PM

ok either way im after some mate, lets start a group buy!!!

Rob Day 19 January 2011 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by scooby1664 (Post 9831856)
could i possibly have promo code, my car is not rallied or raced + who sees the brand!
I love my value beans lol

will post pics fitted!

You have a Promo info PM http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/thumb.gif

Cheers,
Rob

scooby1664 19 January 2011 10:46 PM

Thanks for PM, i appriciate the time and effort you have put into finding this out for us mate!

Scoooby_doo & Shaggy 20 January 2011 03:36 AM

Coilovers
 

Originally Posted by UK300 PRODRIVE (Post 9831869)
You have a Promo info PM http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/thumb.gif

Cheers,
Rob

Hi Rob,

i think what pargg341 has stated with his road sti i dont think we can go far wrong, can you PM me the code as well please mate

i will go and fetch some i think direct if possible and get them fitted i could possibly have them on by friday lol

thanx for all your help and the discussion but same as you said if there crap we can always whack them on ebay and flog them fast at £200 ish

Andie

Japorter 20 January 2011 04:39 AM

I know of someone actually used them for few weeks... I could only recommend you all stay AWAY big time:.....

Scoooby_doo & Shaggy 20 January 2011 06:52 AM

what was the problem with him anychance getting intouch and finding out some info on the coils cause i am looking to purchase a set of coils in the next few days, money is not a problem and i have cash for apexi or tiens just would help me getting a cheaper set so i can do other mods as well

one guy on here has got a set currently running on a sti and said they are ok and cool worth every penny, did your mate have these fitted professionally ? and have them set up correctly, has the guy fitted himself and setup? what was the problems

i am intrigued to see what the answers are and why he removed them and the problems he had, you might save me some cash etc.. which i think i speak for everyone on here who is looking to buy a set of coils

Andie

Rob Day 20 January 2011 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Scoooby_doo & Shaggy (Post 9832097)
i think what pargg341 has stated with his road sti i dont think we can go far wrong, can you PM me the code as well please mate

You PM is full, let me know when you can receive messages :thumb:

Rob :)

Rob Day 20 January 2011 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by Japorter (Post 9832100)
I know of someone actually used them for few weeks... I could only recommend you all stay AWAY big time:.....

How many weeks did he use them for? 52, 104, 156? Sorry for being flippent, all im saying is if you have something consturctive to say then back it up with facts and ingredients. :thumb:

Scoooby_doo & Shaggy 20 January 2011 01:34 PM

pms
 

Originally Posted by UK300 PRODRIVE (Post 9832201)
You PM is full, let me know when you can receive messages :thumb:

Rob :)

it says my pm is empty, must be a problem with it will have to get administrators to have a butchers at it lol

if you want to send me promo code to my email address if thats ok

AndiePenny@googlemail.com

Andie

Japorter 20 January 2011 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by UK300 PRODRIVE (Post 9832208)
How many weeks did he use them for? 52, 104, 156? Sorry for being flippent, all im saying is if you have something consturctive to say then back it up with facts and ingredients. :thumb:

I will get in contact with him, see if I could get more info...:lol::thumb: will be back..

Rob Day 21 January 2011 02:20 AM


Originally Posted by Scoooby_doo & Shaggy (Post 9832541)
it says my pm is empty, must be a problem with it will have to get administrators to have a butchers at it lol

if you want to send me promo code to my email address if thats ok

AndiePenny@googlemail.com

Andie

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Scoooby_doo & Shaggy 21 January 2011 12:15 PM

very strange
 

Originally Posted by UK300 PRODRIVE (Post 9834000)
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email sent

i wonder why its doing that? i think i will have to get the administrator moderator to check that out

i have checked my PM and there is nothing in it, i have 2 saved messages in a possible 25, so should receive it????

I got your email anyway mate thanx for that have replied as well with a bit of usefull info

Andie

Japorter 21 January 2011 09:28 PM

I have got abit more info now.. and I think it isn't so problem-ish really could be for some. I have been told the main problem with raceland coilovers, its that they are quite bouncy, the lower the car goes the bouncier it gets, and it gets quite squeaky at the same time...

JonMc 21 January 2011 09:51 PM

Do you mean bouncy or just harsh - on the roads it will get worse the lower it is, and as the springs are compressed more by lowering it the shocks will be able to do less damping.

Parrg341 21 January 2011 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by JonMc (Post 9835477)
Do you mean bouncy or just harsh - on the roads it will get worse the lower it is, and as the springs are compressed more by lowering it the shocks will be able to do less damping.


I think thats where the problems are coming from, These have seperate height adjustment and spring preload.

The springs do come preloaded to a certain degree but the top nuts adjust up to tension/preload spring for stiffness. The hub carrier mounting adjusts to lower or raise ride height.

If someone has incorrectly fitted them they will not operate correct at all, if they have lowerd using top nuts like common coilovers the spring will have no tension and will be able to bounce about.

These need correct set up and are as stiff as you set them upto be.

Hope this helps a little. :thumb:

Rob Day 21 January 2011 10:59 PM

Ok so here is an update in general

I have only just got home from a very busy day (brew in hand, laptop open knee;))

There is a parcel at the door which I need to open but can wait until tommorow, however I contacted Phil (Raceland) whilst at work today and he supplied me with a tracking number, when I checked (I was not at home) it stated delivered..... 2 Days!!!

So here is my Tracking... happy days

Preston, United Kingdom 21/01/2011 15:53 Delivered
21/01/2011 5:30 Out for Delivery
21/01/2011 1:37 Arrival Scan
Tamworth, United Kingdom 20/01/2011 23:27 Departure Scan
20/01/2011 12:39 Arrival Scan
Barking, United Kingdom 20/01/2011 9:45 Departure Scan
20/01/2011 9:16 Arrival Scan
Brussels, Belgium 20/01/2011 2:07 Departure Scan
Brussels, Belgium 19/01/2011 21:38 Origin Scan
Belgium 19/01/2011 8:41 Order Processed: Ready for UPS

KickboxingCrazy 21 January 2011 11:05 PM

i had a set of these on a astra GSi turbo. they were alot less then 350, and even though they was stupidly hard, like bone shattering, they handled like a go kart!

Scoooby_doo & Shaggy 21 January 2011 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by Parrg341 (Post 9835571)
I think thats where the problems are coming from, These have seperate height adjustment and spring preload.

The springs do come preloaded to a certain degree but the top nuts adjust up to tension/preload spring for stiffness. The hub carrier mounting adjusts to lower or raise ride height.

If someone has incorrectly fitted them they will not operate correct at all, if they have lowerd using top nuts like common coilovers the spring will have no tension and will be able to bounce about.

These need correct set up and are as stiff as you set them upto be.

Hope this helps a little. :thumb:

as i said pre had they been put on by himself or professionally installed as the setup is everything we can lower higher make stiffer but the correct way is keeping the preload on the spring so the damper has the force back theoretically if you lower the lower coils without altering the it lengthens the spring hence more bouncy (damping) if you alter the top then all you should be doing is stiffening the ride as it will put more preload on the spring, every complete turn on the coils to lower i read somewhere its a 1/4 turn on the top mount to keep the preload

the perfect way of doing the coils is professionally so if i bought a set i would have them professionally setup and fitted, any problems with ride quality i would then just go back and say they are handling like what have ya and because you have paid to have them setup its up to them to get them correct no charge extra, alot of companies if you fit they dont want to touch

i have had everything professionally fitted to my scooby, i am a qualified mechanic to MOT standards and i have a AIAE BTEC and hons in motor industry, i work for a insurance company writing cars off and agreeing pre accident values, i am fully able to fit and set up the coils, but i choose not too not something i do everyday so leave it to the experts is my moto there are a few good places that will fit and setup scooby clinic is one of them

Rob Day 22 January 2011 07:58 PM

Arrived
 
Hi Guys,

They have arrived, however I still have no car to put them on as its in the garage being worked on, however here is a few pics:

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/y...d/P1010074.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/y...P1010073-1.jpg

Rob :thumb:

Rob Day 23 January 2011 03:24 PM

Update:

Well I have had a little more time this afternoon to take a better look at them, and the first impression is the workmanship is sxcellent.My car is still with Brian at CAMS (top bloke btw), so as soon as I get it back I wll crack on with fitting them. Here is a few more pics in the meantime.

Rob ;)

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/y...P/P1010004.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/y...P/P1010007.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/y...P/P1010005.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/y...P/P1010003.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/y...P/P1010008.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/y...P/P1010002.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/y...P/P1010001.jpg

jura11 23 January 2011 03:53 PM

Hi Rob looking spot on...
I'm looking forward to see on car and afterwards on feedback....


Jura

Rob Day 23 January 2011 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by jura11 (Post 9838458)
Hi Rob looking spot on...
I'm looking forward to see on car and afterwards on feedback....


Jura


Me too mate..... Im hoping to get my car back on Monday/Tuesday ish. I went on to see it and have a chat with Brian on Saturday, things are looking up as the compressions come back spot on:thumb: Oh and I just happen to have a zorst in the boot of the car when I turned up for him :D.

So the Completly Standard STI i recently bought, will soon be, fresh engine, Dare drift alloys with the old style Eagle F1's (the better F1's imo), full 3" decat, and these coilovers :lol1:. I still need a good 400bhp Turbo, but purse strings are tight at the moment :(.

Rob

PS I have replied to your PM.

jura11 23 January 2011 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by UK300 PRODRIVE (Post 9838534)
Me too mate..... Im hoping to get my car back on Monday/Tuesday ish. I went on to see it and have a chat with Brian on Saturday, things are looking up as the compressions come back spot on:thumb: Oh and I just happen to have a zorst in the boot of the car when I turned up for him :D.

So the Completly Standard STI i recently bought, will soon be, fresh engine, Dare drift alloys with the old style Eagle F1's (the better F1's imo), full 3" decat, and these coilovers :lol1:. I still need a good 400bhp Turbo, but purse strings are tight at the moment :(.

Rob

PS I have replied to your PM.



Really interesting,if w ill be OK,as promised Raceland,these coilovers will be killers at this price,because other markers of Coilovers are priced 2 times more.

And about your upgrades,exhaust will be probably most visible with Dare Drift alloys(i like these,similar we are want go,but at moment no way)
Turbo for 400bhp,you will need MD-321 or SC40-SC46,TD05-20G will make this power but with meth at least.


Jura

Rob Day 23 January 2011 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by jura11 (Post 9838596)
Really interesting,if w ill be OK,as promised Raceland,these coilovers will be killers at this price,because other markers of Coilovers are priced 2 times more.

And about your upgrades,exhaust will be probably most visible with Dare Drift alloys(i like these,similar we are want go,but at moment no way)
Turbo for 400bhp,you will need MD-321 or SC40-SC46,TD05-20G will make this power but with meth at least.


Jura

Hey,

400bhp or thereabouts tbh mate, as Dunx wisely said to me once, dont go chasing numbers, its how the car handles and feels that matters. Oh I have bought the Cusco H Brace of Eggy too, forgot to add to list, but havent had time to collect it with the long hours recently. So Whitelines will be the next job, then MD321 of some discription, but I need my finances sorting first lol. MD's seem to be the better power for money turbo's that usually have more scope than 400bhp, thus potential for the future :D. TBH I would be more than happy with a quick spooling 375bhp motor if I can source the right turbo without busting a gut or the bank.

Rob

jura11 23 January 2011 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by UK300 PRODRIVE (Post 9838835)
Hey,

400bhp or thereabouts tbh mate, as Dunx wisely said to me once, dont go chasing numbers, its how the car handles and feels that matters. Oh I have bought the Cusco H Brace of Eggy too, forgot to add to list, but havent had time to collect it with the long hours recently. So Whitelines will be the next job, then MD321 of some discription, but I need my finances sorting first lol. MD's seem to be the better power for money turbo's that usually have more scope than 400bhp, thus potential for the future :D. TBH I would be more than happy with a quick spooling 375bhp motor if I can source the right turbo without busting a gut or the bank.

Rob



Thant's exactly what i want say before,don't try catch ghost,sometimes is not worth.
Droplinks and other Whiteline stuff is great,but you can have look for CDF stuff,well priced as well.



Jura

jtonkins 23 January 2011 06:59 PM

great thread cant wait to see the out come as i will probally purchase a set soon too :thumb:

scoobyreedy 23 January 2011 07:25 PM

the proof will be when fitted and the life span of these do seem very cheap for a coilover but they may be great fairplay for trying them bud ,hope they are ok and live up to expectations

Rob Day 27 January 2011 07:31 PM

Update:

Nothing has currently changed, the coilovers are still in the original box, and my car is still in the garage being worked on.

So for those of you that are interested in the outcome, and the feedback from these will just have to wait im afraid. Just as you, I also is very much looking forward to getting these on and getting them tested... :)

Rob

Abbylad 27 January 2011 09:14 PM

Have read the thread and am sure I haven't missed this - there's no mention of kits to fit classics is there? Have emailed the ebay geezer to see if there's any chance


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