OP - who told you this happened? The woman you work with?

Is this him?

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:lol1: Yea


Anyway i'm watching indiana jones....

Or one making threats, would imagine waking up with a bloke on top of you is quite alarming.

Does sound really iffy but women need to avoid putting them in dodgy situations and blokes need to avoid putting themselves in a position where they can be accused as some women have shown they arent above making stuff up, like some blokes aren't above taking what they want.

I know a girl and guy who were in this situation. She woke up to find him slipping her one. Not sure if she carried on when woken, but the feds were all over it.
She dropped the case in the end as some seedy sh1t came out about her, and it didnt reflect well on the 'case'. Still, that seedy stuff should make no difference, he raped her and was extremely fortunate to come out the other side.

I was right in the middle as I knew them both, and she was always knocking on my door giving me write ups to give to the lad, on the definition of rape from the feds etc.


The lad in question is dead now, so I can tell the story. The girl has never surfaced since, God knows what she is up to now but for a while she was selling her body.

Anyhow any guy who tries it on that way with a girl,waiting until she is asleep p1ssed up in bed,is a low life,regardless if she let him carry on with it or not..

:thumb: totally agree.

How do they know he was walking about naked if they were asleep?

...and how don't they know he 'did' them both????!!!! How do you know?

The house as I've read it belongs to either both/one of the women.

If this guy has admitted to the OP that he started to give her one while she was asleep then that is rape simple as.

PMSL! :lol1:

I think if the OP is that concerned about this woman, or both women then he needs to talk to them and get things clear about what happened.

Now I can't simply say that this is rape, sure he jumped aboard while she was 'asleep' they may have already had sex once, and he thought it was fair game. We don't know the facts, abd I doubt the girls have a clear view of the night, and I doubt the would tell everything to the OP.
Of course some people think that's not right, but if she allowed him to continue and was happy to do so, then it's just sex.

BUT, if he simply barged in on her and pounced on her, and continued regardless of her state of mind or maybe lack of ability to communicate, then it is a little more worrying.

I think that this girl needs to talk to someone in private who she cdn get some unbiased advice from to help her figure out what she needs to do.

Sorry, I am liberal minded, but if the story reads that he was doing her when she was asleep then it is rape, and this would be confirmed by any half decent solicitor. Rape doesnt need to be all forced and horrific to be rape, the fact she is asleep and not in a 'position' to say yes or no suggests the rape was carried out.

Read again, he's said the bloke invited himself back to their house.

To be honest, drunk or not, they were really stupid inviting(allowing) a stranger back to their house, especially as you say they didn't even want to be left with hin when you went home. That said, it doesn't give him the right to do what he 'supposedly' did, if they weren't up for it.

I think you need to hear their version of events, and if this was more than drunken foolishness, then they need to take a trip to the police station.

It's difficult, as you simply don't know exactly what went on regardless of either version you are given.

You do not need to educate me on sexual abuse or assault thanks.

But I do know that it's not that bad to be woken up to a man prepared to take to to the heights of passion. She admitted she allowed him to continue.

We all need to stay open minded here, they had ALL had a drink, so we do not know what else had happened before this.

You had a drinky :D

Thinking of it from my point of view, if a man had come into my room asleep, and attempted to have sex with me, I would know about it a fair bit before he entered me.
I can't see her allowing him to get that far into the act (penetration) before she woke up.

If that is the case, she either was raped, and she is too scared to admit it even to herself, or she is fully aware of the situation.

I am just about to enjoy a bottle of Bud, why do you ask?

The I phone typo correction at it's best?! Lol!

WTF?? :cuckoo:

She was passing notes to you to give to him?

She dropped the case because his defence obviously found out something dodgy about her? So that must be she's either the local bike, or she cried wolf once before.

He's now dead?

This whole thread sound a bit iffy to me. :Suspiciou

Try Budweiser Budvar. Far better than that American P!ss.

I'll be sinking a few of these tonight myself.

I'm with you there.

not everyone is a light sleeper. I am a very light sleeper and the slightest irregular sound will wake me from sleep, unless I've had a lot to drink and stayed up late in which case I am more likely to stay asleep.

An ex girlfriend of mine was completely the opposite and once I lived in a flat in an old manor house which had one of those old bell fire alarms - one night it was set off, was just above the bed albeit on the other side of the plaster wall. It was ****ing loud and I instantly woke up with my heart pounding at the sudden loud sound. She was still lying next to me fast asleep (no drink at all) :eek:

I could have entered her and left many deposits don't think she would have woken up (no I never did that, not into necrophilia!)

Why? She was a bike, which weakened her case, but she was raped. Just because you are a slag, doesnt mean you forfeit the right not to be raped.

He died about 4 years ago when he was hit by a car, got himself up and was then hit by another car. Not related to the rest of the story.

[QUOTE=Hysteria1983;9793328]I am just about to enjoy a bottle of Bud,:norty:

Dont be so precious, I wasnt trying to educate you. Having seen this played out before, I for once have good gen to bring toi the table. There are so many variables in all sexual assault cases, the one constant is rape and its definition.

To be honest I normally drink Brahma or Miller, but this was all that was left.
I haven't drank much over Christmas, so I am happy to sink a few of anything.

Thanks for the heads up though, can't say I have noticed that on the shelf.

Try Okocim for a hangover to remember!

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Sounds like a good night was had by all. :D

There's something fishy about the story though... the sleeping bit, that can't be true?

I dont know. A guy I worked with down at the Falklands was such a heavy sleeper, someone set off the fire alarm, which had a siren in every room. He locked his door for a sleep and slept right through the din. We had to kick the door in to check he was alive!

I wouldnt have tried to enter him even for scientific reasons!

I totally agree with you.

And as a small few people on here know I have been on the receiving end of an uneanted advance and I knew from the second he touched me that it was not wanted.
I didn't allow him to do what he did and then decide afterwards I wasn't happy with it.

If this girl was concious enough to know what this man was attempting to do and allowed him to continue it isn't rape.

It still isn't acceptable though.

I'm just hoping that the OP gets to know more about what has happened, as I would hate for this to fizzle out as what may seem to be nothing but a load of crap.

Im sorry to hear that.

I would also, through morbid curiosity, like to know the facts, we are all just speculating at the mo.