It seems unlikely that Steiner kids will ever go to Secondary Comp!!! Otherwise you are correct!

Its my understanding that they stay in Steiner schools until 14. From there its either into another private school or thrown to the oiks in the local comp.

Guy I work with, his kids go to the local steiner and AFAIK will go to the same comp as mine but at 14 and not 12. Had to pick them up once (middle of flaming nowhere) and although its very expensive all the parents had that hippie look to them.

I think to get your children into Steiner you are not allowed to own a car, although membership of a car club sharing a Prius is acceptable.

You must grow and make all your own food and only eat what is in season (bark in the winter, nettles and dandelions in the summer).

You must wear one of those stupid pointy hats with ear flaps made out of goat hair and dyed jolly colours.

If you are a woman you will wear a fully length floaty skirt or dress. You will not shave your armpits and deodorant is banned.

If you are a man you are probably already emasculated so it is irrelevant!

You moan that you miss sausage rolls and cheese cake, tut when someone brings in food from home that may have looked twice at a cow, stink the office out with quorn based Bolagnese and complain bitterly that the polly tunnel you ordered hasn't arrived.

Oh, and completely out of character, you often buy the Daily Star and bin in it before you set off home.

You also probably get into a spot of bother when you get home to discover one of your workmates has lifted the Daily Star out of the bin, folded onto a page with some bird with her boobs out and slip it back into the briefcase when you weren't looking.

*All completely true. :D

Reference my earlier thread about the point of some university courses, this is another point that bugs me, teaching religion in schools, stop it, its not fact, its not real and its not like there arent other versions of it being taught to other kids, religion is one for the respective communities, not wasting educators time on, maybe an hour to explain the various types but not writing endless essays and bollocks about it.

Teach them how to balance a bank account, fix a bike tyre, write a letter, anything useful, not mumbo jumbo, its just f*cking stories, at least history lessons have some basis in fact, RE is just a waste of time, how come there all these kids turned out with poor life skills, dire reading skills and not able to look after themselves, probably because they were learning about the frigging Israelites and sodding Moses, that come in hand when they are skint and on the dole, a good tale about a burning bush at an interview, any burning bush stories my lads learn should be about a hillarious Brandy/Cigar incident in a Lap Dancing Bar.

Taking the extremist attitude of some people who have "religion" away, religion tends to be no more than a moral guide. I think your run of the mill school has to have some sort of religious elements as a means to give the children a moral guide.

If parents want there children to be brought up with the "you go to hell, you go to hell and you die!!!" way of thinking then the child probably goes to a faith school already.

For the rest of us normal folk, religion in schools is a good way of introducing values to a child by way of stories. Some of it can be confusing - Your teacher tells you about adam and eve but when you go home your dad is watching the chap from D-Ream on the subject of the Big Bang.

I think religion just confuses issues of morality, additional abstract concepts and stuff that is hard to explain if questioned to explain what is basically "dont be a cnut" to a child.

What an absolute load of tosh. Competition begins at the first breath and it is little wonder this country breeds so many wet lettuce today.

It is quite shocking to see that these pinko PC Plonkers are teaching this sort of rubbish. They are terrified in case a child gets "disappointed" if not winning at sport etc. They just cannot see that is all part of life and something that you have to get used to, and to try that much harder next time. We will wind up with a bunch of children who cannot deal with adversity and expect everything to be presented to them on a plate.

What a grey useless and boring life they try to build for us all.

They want a strong person to give them a very heavy kicking up the "arris" until they begin to see the light!

Les :(

I'd go with this; allegory is key to a child's development. As soon as a child begin's to ask questions one can assume that they are intellectually mature enough to begin to comprehend often harsh reality. I think. Or would an abscence of magic in childhood make adolescence less painful? Hmmm. :Suspiciou

And commit to one of the most succesful education systems on the planet.

It doesn't really, it depends on the facts and the fact is the marjority of people in UK/NI are Christian.

That maybe so Jamz, however how many people go to church ?.I've never seen a graph chart on that before, probably too embarrased to mention they do.

Considering this place
http://www.ship-of-fools.com/mystery...hitewell_1.jpg

http://www.ship-of-fools.com/mystery...hitewell_2.jpg

I'd say quite a few and having been before it was very much packed. Also considering the 7 Churchs(i'm near sure there is a chapel or two also) in my local town, i'd say quite a few still go to Church/Chapel.

Have you noticed the extremist attutudes of many atheists towards those who choose to be religious?

Most of the religious just keep it to themselves and get on with life. They rarely are seen to attack Atheists anyway!

Les

Modern parents:lol1:


Their kids are ALWAYS bully victims, watch about a boy for an idea!

Firstly, the rules for living which can be found in Christianity (and most other religions) are good rules to live by, never mind whether you believe in God or Jesus Christ, I think that bit is for the individual to determine for themselves. Live by the rules and you will be a good human being.

As far as competitive sports not being allowed in many schools that just sh!t or winning or losing doesnt matter. When will these people realise that LIFE is competitive. So let the kids see winning and losing first hand. Not just a huge shock when they are thrown in to a dog eat dog world after school. They should be well prepared.

I can understand why it is a good idea to tell kids that it is good to play sport regardless of how well you do at it. There are lots of things I am c r a p at when compared to others, but I continue with them as I enjoy them. What I don't agree with is the concept being pedalled at school sports days where the winner of an event gets a medal, as do all the others who took part.

I will be telling my kids that it is ok to finish in second place or further down the field, as long as when you set out your aim was to finish first, and you gave of your best to try to win.

Ufortunately, until attitudes like yours are consigned to the history books, English teams are going to continue to slide down all the world rankings :(

Perhaps you misunderstand me. I did not say competition should not be encouraged, of course it should, but to force a win-at-all-costs mentality in young kids is not proven to work at all (just look at the England team!), and will also probably turn them into a**holes (again, same example ;) )

How the fcuk do you work that out? :confused:

My thoughts exactly :wonder:

The England team as it stands ARE a prime example of exactly the opposite to what you say though and clearly support what I say. :wonder:

Thank you, I thought I was going doolally and had to read it several times in case I'd read it wrong. I stopped short at turning my monitor upside down. :D

Or relocate to australia :lol1:

So you consider the current generation of England players to be successful and nice people?

Compare them to the Spanish - with far less spent on them too yet they are far more successful, partly in down to a completely different training approach and attitude, focused more on enjoyment than winning.

It is clearly National Galah Day. :D

Blame the headteacher!

My daughter is in year 1 (5-6 year olds) and although RE is taught, it is taught as a belief system, rather than the truth.

So my daughter is aware of the "stories" about God, and that her grandmother believes this, where as my wife and I don't. I have also taught her that my mother is a Taoist, but again a belief system for some people.

When we looked round the school before my daughter joined, they showed us the sports facilities they shared with the junior school, so I asked the headteacher about competitiveness in sports, where she said it was encouraged, as the children need to learn there are times they will win, and times they will lose. :notworthy

I consider the current generation of English football team players as largely a huge embarrassment. They don't show an ounce of genuine competitiveness unless play is going their way with very little effort.

As for nice people I couldn't say. However, I doubt they'd last 2 minutes in my company once I'd told them they were a bunch of overpaid nancy boys.

The Spanish are more possibly more hungry, simple. No professional is at the top of their game for enjoyment over winning no matter what some daft survey will say in a climate where public positive reinforcement of winning is frowned upon.

Yes of course, by the time they get to the professional rungs of sport, it really is all about winning. What I'm referring to are the formative years (of, in this case, a footballer).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...s-nothing.html

Obviously I have chosen an article that fits my point of view, but he makes some interesting points, so too do the comments at the bottom.