I nearly murdered a friends Westie when it attacked my little lad, luckily it just got his jacket, it had bitten me when I picked it up trying to stop it getting reversed over by a car, little cnut it is, seems ok now but is very aggressive around food and they baby it, luckily its small enough not to be a major problem.

i could probably get rid of the tray, but like most things its become a habit. i don't think they would go on the floor if it was removed but due to their tiny size i probably would not know they had had an accident.

i have been into loads of breeders houses where they have chiuhuahas and they stink. ive seen males just cocking their legs up a clothes airer full of washing and having a crap where ever they want to. usually the owners excuse this by saying that the poos are too small to worry about etc.

if i have a litter tray in the house and its used on the odd occasion then i am happy :thumb:

I think some of you are being a bit harsh on Sara. Wind yer necks in.

Jacko - if a dog went for my little boy, it would be dead very quickly.

who, the dog or your boy?



its ok, some people have different ways of looking after dogs, others are just t055ers

i would rather have a dog that is half the size of a cat using a tray once in a while than having a cat that uses it all the time :D

cats litter trays stink :mad:

I dont mean to be personal at all, it just seems to be that you post about the things in life that wind me up!

I have no time for people who treat little ratty dogs as kids, and give them the full run of the house, then wonder why the dog is a little psycho who sh1ts everywhere!

Like i said its nothing personal, i think we are at different ends of the spectrum, thats all ( and if you cant take a bit of stick, dont post on the internet, espescially NSR!):thumb:

Can we be friends now, ill walk your dog:)

there is such a simple answer....don't look at the threads i post, or put me on ignore.
i resent your thinly veiled digs at me. why don't you tell me how you feel by pm'ing me, why do it when you have an audience? that looks to me like you are attention seeking one.

i wouldn't say that we are at different ends of the spectrum just that you have an axe to grind for some reason.

and what makes you think that i treat my dogs like children? :cuckoo:

i would never let my kids sh1t in a litter tray :mad:


yes, you can take my dogs for a walk but let me first undo the dog whisperer training :thumb:


and my dogs dont sh1t everywhere, just outside and in a litter tray :thumb:

Sara - do you and GC8 have some history?!

I meant the dog of course.

We are even super careful with our lab (never leave her in the same room along with our baby) even though she is probably the best trained, most placid and well behaved dog I have ever known.

i had to ask lol.

nope, we have no history :thumb:

i dont think you can trust any dog 100%. i wouldn't leave mine near a someones child as i know they can be snappy(not mine), its just not worth the risk.


a breeder that i know will not let her pups to go to homes with children under 8 years old

Well we chose a lab because they are so good with kids and she seems to be fine with him - but we still don't let her out of our sight when they are in the same room!

Only aggression she has ever shown is to a couple of dogs who have really pestered her constantly or been aggressive. Actually makes me quite pround when our docile lab sees off an aggro dog!

I think it's great to grow up with dogs - I have always been around them which is probably why I had no issue with them even after having a bit of unintended dog administered plastic surgery!

i cant say that i have heard of devil Labs lol. they would rather eat all day than be nasty :D

I have, used to walk one at a rescue centre. It had ripped its owners face off because he rubbed its ears which it had some issue with. He refused to have it destroyed though and sent it to the rehoming centre. Don't know if it was ever rehomed, I doubt it. Edit to add you get devil dogs in any breed, just a fact of nature sadly.

i think if someone rubbed my ears the wrong way i would be p1ssed off :p

i went to a re homing center before i got my first chi and couldn't believe how many dogs were there that could not be homed with kids.

i never let anyones kids near my dogs as i know they will torment them

Ours isn't allowed to eat anything but her own food - ever.

Hence being this shape:

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Very easy to let a lab get fat! In fact ours is quite fussy with food! It can actually get quite annoying as she often goes off her food and we have to change it!

They forgot to tell me this rather important fact about don't touch his ears until after i'd spent 15 minutes in his pen making a fuss of him and rubbing his ears :lol1: He obviously didn't have an issue with it that day :o

my dogs have to eat what they get. they have meat twice a day and dry complete food is down all day (could be the reason for too many poos)

i started off changing the food to please the dog but in the end i realised that if they were hungry then they would eat it.

i hate fussy dogs that can only be fed on one or two things, same with the kids, they eat what they are given....luckily i am a good cook :thumb:

anyway, now that Paris is a model she has to watch her diet :p

Sarah,

Please don't see this as me having a go.

You are extolling the virtues of the dog whisperer, however you are missing the boat on a few very basic points.

You wouldn't have had to "shhssst" the dog for being an agressive little ******* in the first place if you followed a few basic rules, one of which being to train them to crap outside at all times.

Another, and a fairly major one, is not to leave food down at all times (which as you have apparently now twigged is probably why they crap both too much and at irregular times)

Feeding twice a day is good. If you feed them at regular times they will crap at regular times which will negate the need for a litter tray/new slippers.

Its pretty clear that they are boss and not you. Which is probably the exact problem encountered by all the other Chuihahah owners you know whose dogs piss and crap everywhere and are no doubt unruly little gits.

Irrespective of what appearances may tell you, even leaving aside the issue of agression, the happiest and most emotionally balanced dogs know exactly where their place is in the human household (unless that place is at the top) Its an issue that comes up in practically every episode of the dog whisperer.

maybe i should have explained, the dog that was hanging off trousers is not one i had from a puppy, she was 9 months old when i got her so her problems were already there. also, she was not aggressive as she didn't bite the person, she acted as if she didn't want that person to go. if they bend down to stroke her she would gladly roll onto her back for a belly rub.

also she came from a flat where she had never been socialised, she had never been out and was terrified to go to a stranger. now she goes down the woods at the weekend, off the lead and loves it. she squeals(excitement) like a pig when she wants to get to another dog so there are still some issues there to be sorted out but other than that she is a great dog. so as you can see i have not caused her, now gone aggression for want of a better word.

leaving dry food down is not a problem. if i am eating something that the dogs want and i dont give it they will go and eat a few biscuits of their own. i am more than happy with that. if my dogs were over weight then i would consider removing some food.
it is not very often i get a poo in the litter tray and certainly not on a regular basis just to clarify

neither dogs are allowed in the upstairs bedrooms and sleep in a crate during the day.

i have tried really hard not to pamper my dogs as i think a dog should be treated as a dog, but like most people you do tend to spoil them occasionally.

Sara,

Nothing wrong with spoiling occasionally :)

Don't take my word for it on the feeding. Read the books, do the reasearch. Listen to what the dogwhispere has to say :thumb:

i know you are right about the feeding but it is not a problem for me, apart from the odd dump in my slipper i can live with it :p

Cesar's technique is more management than training. He shows ways to deal with a situation that the public like to watch and can be relatively entertaining.

There's far more to handling a difficult dog than simply management though. Dog owners should actually train their dogs skills that enhance the dog and the owners life making management a formality.

This clip makes for interesting viewing. :D
Walkies

I rate Cesear very highly.



I've also found a lot of his techniques work for women as well :lol1: :Suspiciou

Just because a dog that has been trained for the Police doesn't mean it can't be a loving pet. These dogs aren't mental like people think. A hard confident dog is what it takes, hence the selection process to find a suitable candidate.

That often means they are very level headed and not outright aggressive. The proper training makes them appear aggressive but it is controlled aggression. Sometimes, as in your Sister's case a dogs drives are so high that if the handler takes his/her eye of the ball for a second it can lose direction.

Dog handlers do prefer to keep a dog separate from 'outright' family life to maintain the dogs professionalism and focus. Once retired though, they make superb pets but for the more experienced home.

I have a fully trained dog here right now and you'd never know he was the slightest bit aggressive until I ask him to be. I'd however never let him off the lead as his prey drive is such he eats small furry things and I wouldn't trust he might slip my notice and somebody would lose their small dog.

wow, just watched the video :eek:

the dog only attacked him because he kicked it in the side :nono:


Cesar looked very scared and out of his depth for a bit, i was waiting for the dog to rip his chest open.

wish i could have seen the whole thing with the dog. its amazing how he can get that relaxed state after just a few minutes. :thumb:

must be hard having a working dog and also a family as the rules have to be set in stone, i do love Gs's though, especially black ones, lesleys is a beauty :thumb:

i will try to keep my pooches away from a pet of yours :D


my two dogs are perfect for my life style as i can transport them anywhere, restuarants tend to be less obliging but i am working on it :p

Is that just police or military police as well? I was under the impression military police dogs were never rehomed as pets? That was based on something I was told a very long time ago so things could well have changed.

Off the lead for any dog apart from designated parks/areas is something I hate anyway. Its all about risk and I'm not prepared to consider any risk where other children/adults/dogs are.

A trained dog will always maintain a decent a level of training in retirement as you say and will obey its handler/owner like its always done.

Interesting you spotted the kick that set the dog off and it was only the choice of collar that saved Cesar from tiring out first. Had a member of the public 'choked out' a dog like he had to I'm sure they'd be answering charges now. :)

i did find it difficult to watch at first as the dog was choking. in 'my world' the dog was attacked by Cesar and so had a right to defend itself, but at the same time the dog didn't know when to call it quits.

i think if Cesar had known the dog would react the way it did then he would have used a 'pole leash' so the dog could not have got within 2 feet of him. its not worth trying to be a hero imho. luckily for him he managed to pull it off without too much harm to himself.

i cant believe that the dog could ever be trusted with anyone though :nono:

Not sure what the policy is on Military dogs here.

That is why the training is so important and not just Cesar's management of a particular sensationalised TV moment.

That dog needs real time spending on him and I for one would like to see if Cesar carried out such training.