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Funkii Munkii 24 June 2008 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by j4ckos mate (Post 7961382)
its probably for the best if he gos cos he will get absolutled slated at every away game now.

And home games I would imagine, once is forgiveable, twice isn't

fatherpierre 24 June 2008 10:24 PM

Great player, but if he wants to help keep up Man Utd's rep as Real's feeder club then there's little that can be done.

Madrid or Salford:D? I know where I'd want to be.

There'll be a nice profit in it anyway.

DJ Dunk 25 June 2008 09:01 AM

NSFW!

YouTube - Ronaldo Leaves Utd :lol1:

G-STAR 25 June 2008 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by DJ Dunk (Post 7963207)

Doesn't quite beat: YouTube - Chelsea humour :luxhello:

richie001 25 June 2008 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by G-STAR (Post 7963428)
Doesn't quite beat: YouTube - Chelsea humour :luxhello:

Completely 5hit not funny :hjtwofing

Funkii Munkii 25 June 2008 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by G-STAR (Post 7963428)
Doesn't quite beat: YouTube - Chelsea humour :luxhello:

Very clever more apt as well :lol1:

DaveBeck 25 June 2008 01:59 PM

YouTube - Hitler Match Analysis - Arsenal vs Tottenham Hotspurs

makes me chuckle

STi wanna Subaru 27 June 2008 10:56 AM

Quite a good article on the Ronaldo saga from a Real viewpoint.


[Ronaldo The Wrong Move For Real?
Posted 26/06/08 13:54

Disgruntled Manchester United fans want it. Felipe Scolari wants it. Bored newspaper readers want it. His mum wants it. Darn near everyone wants Cristiano Ronaldo to be the latest Galactico hooked into the Real Madrid marketing machine.

Everyone, except Real Madrid fans, it seems.

Whilst the posing Portuguese pouter is being pictured standing around on yachts thanks to his country's rather sheepish exit from Euro 2008, Real Madrid are reportedly putting together the final touches to a whopping 85million Euro bid to bring the Champions League winner to the Bernabeu this summer with one Marca writer predicting the unveiling of the latest addition to their collection to be July 7.

Even if Sir Alex hurled himself in front of Ronaldo's departing taxi, suffragette style, the Old Trafford old timer would simply find himself squished and squashed, such is the ludicrous amount of money being slapped on the table for the want-away winger.

"If Real Madrid want to sign a player, then he is signed. They always manage it," shrugged Zidane this week. And he's a man who knows a thing or two about the lure of filthy lucre.

In less cynical Spain - although not in Messi-mad Cataluyna, mind - Cristiano Ronaldo is generally considered to be the best player in the world thanks to his remarkable goalscoring record and the fact that his bi- game bottling prowess is less publicised.

For this reason one would have thought that Real Madrid fans would be daisy-sniffing and dreamy at the thought of their new hair-gelled hero tearing opposition defenders a new one over the next few years.

But they're not. In fact, it's genuinely hard to find a supporter who doesn't think that the club's continuous craving for Cristiano is rather unhealthy.

When Ramón Calderón won the club's legally-dubious dog's dinner of a presidential election two years ago the candidate promised Kaká, Cesc Fabregas and Arjen Robben. The president only brought one of these to the Spanish capital. And he turned out to have just one functioning leg.

In bringing Cristiano Ronaldo to the Bernabeu, Calderón thinks that he will finally be loved and adored by the fans - something all club presidents constantly crave.

Currently, the Real Madrid big cheese is viewed as the George Bush of La Primera - the bumbling idiot-puppet of more powerful darker forces.

Aside from the need for Calderón's ego to be given a good rub, there is a clear on-the-pitch purpose for Ronaldo's possible arrival in the Spanish capital - the desperate need for the club to become a global footballing force again.

"What's important to us is to win the Champions League and he can help us to achieve that," confessed Bernd Schuster at the end of the season as he reflected on four years of second-round failure for Real Madrid in Europe.

Ronaldo would be expected to slot into the left midfield berth, a position currently shared between Robinho - a party-loving pest who has one good game in three, and Arjen Robben - a brilliant footballer on his day but as fragile as a brittle-boned snowflake.

The midfielder will also be filling a David Beckham-shaped gap off the field too. Since the England international headed to Los Angeles, the club's annual income from marketing has dropped from 124 million euros to 111 million.

Although most football fans like to hold their nose and claim the moral high ground over such matters, the dirty business of shirt sales and sponsorship deals is important to all clubs from Morecambe to Milan.

Real Madrid currently have a squad containing world-class players such as Iker Casillas and Wesley Sneijder, but none come close to having the profile of Cristiano Ronaldo.

But this strikes a stake into the heart of why the move for the Manchester United player is seen with less than enthusiastic eyes by most Madrid fans, who still have traumatic memories of the messy ending of Florentino Perez' Galactico era.

With back-to-back league titles in the bag, the current Real Madrid squad can only get better, but only if there are no major structural changes to upset a fairly harmonious bunch of players warned AS' Juanma Trueba at the end of May.

'Madrid is betting heavily on Cristiano and it's a risk to their image,' wrote Trueba in an on-line discussion with readers. 'It's a great threat to the ecosystem that Madrid have created with their mix of veterans and young players.'

During the recent, ten-week-long league title celebrations, Raúl reportedly asked Calderón not to break up the current squad - a giddy group of footballers that sees the club captain at his happiest in years. And a happy Raúl is a scoring Raul.

The arrival of Ronaldo and his wage structure-busting salary demands would a major threat to the harmony that Bernd Schuster has managed to bring to his squad, as well as kick off a round of distracting contract renegotiations from Raúl and Casillas - the side's top earners - to bring them to parity with the new boy.

A move for Cristiano Ronaldo would be a significant investment for a club whose debts grew last year and who are using a loan from Banco Santander to pay for the transfer, according to Marca. Despite this external funding, the arrival of just one big name means that several others would have to depart. "If he comes then we'll have to let one or two players go. They will be the victims," advised Bernd Schuster.

Unlike the likes of Roman Abramovich or the Glazers - who can spend their money how they damn well please - Ramón Calderón will be splashing cash that does not belong to him.

If the move goes Pete Tong, the club president can simply walk away - or be booted out - leaving the club with a financial mess for his replacement to clear up.

And this is another major concern to fans who would rather see modesty and sound financial management as the tactic for fighting their way back to football's top table.

"90 million euros is just too much," warned former player Manuel Sanchís.

What's more, 90 million is an awful lot of money to spend on a player that the club doesn't really need.

'If Schuster is not capable of getting past the last sixteen of the Champions League having spent 100 million euros, perhaps the problem is not the cheque book,' mused Roberto Palomer in Marca.

Real Madrid have yet to fill the right midfield position left by Beckham, a player that Schuster said would have played a key role last season had he stayed.

But most of all, the side needs another quality striker as a back-up and long-term replacement to Ruud Van Nistelrooy, as it was the absence of the injured Dutch striker and his ridiculously good goalscoring record that really cost Real Madrid a decent Champions League run last season.

Supporters in the city are currently calling for the signing of David Villa, but it is hard to see how a move for both the Valencia striker and Ronaldo could be funded without putting an unbearable strain on the club's finances or a devastating garage sale of Sneijder, Ramos and Robinho.

Having promised modesty and a return to the ethics of team spirit in his campaign of two years ago, Ramón Calderón is instead looking to turn the clock back to a Galactico era, best forgotten, by pursuing a signing that is not especially needed or especially desired.

With back-to back-league titles, a level of consistency and the emergence of Pepe, Sneijder, Gonzalo Higuaín and Fernando Gago, a more softly, softly approach is starting to bear fruit for the current Spanish champions.

For Real Madrid fans, the arrival of the world's best player could be a major step back for the club, despite how absurd that may sound.

Funkii Munkii 27 June 2008 01:05 PM

Interesting, thanks for sharing.

So much for his statement in 2-3 days, he's a piss taking little sh1t, with no respect.

DJ Dunk 27 June 2008 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii (Post 7968206)
piss taking little sh1t, with no respect.

Thats it, I'm convinced he's going nowhere. Sounds like he's made for Utd :smug: :p ;)

ash1 28 June 2008 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru (Post 7959586)
Keane was on his way down when he left. Cantona was superb for United and a top player but not in Ronaldos league. He was also nearering the end of his career. Ronaldo has probably yet to peak!

Ronaldo is one of those special talents that come along only a few times a generation. To then have that talent at your club is even rarer so who knows how long it would be before United get to see a talent as good again? He's the best since Best and the stats prove it.

you sound you're gonna top yerself. i think tommy smith would have sorted this little sh1t out with a good old fashion tackle.

I'd like him to stay at Manure and play in the reserves like the Jock says.

Craigo86 28 June 2008 09:44 PM

I'm starting to get bored of this whole Ronaldo thing now, Its as though he is loving everyone talking and guessing about him - he doesn't seem to care about the fans, the club, fergie or his teammates. Paul Ince got it spot on when he said he had spoiled Man U's season Man U won the Prem and the C/L they should still be celebrating not worrying about their best player leaving the club. Ah well i'm not guna bother posting in this thread anymore coz im sick of talking about the little runt.

pete higham 28 June 2008 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by Craigo86 (Post 7971124)
I'm starting to get bored of this whole Ronaldo thing now, Its as though he is loving everyone talking and guessing about him - he doesn't seem to care about the fans, the club, fergie or his teammates. Paul Ince got it spot on when he said he had spoiled Man U's season Man U won the Prem and the C/L they should still be celebrating not worrying about their best player leaving the club. Ah well i'm not guna bother posting in this thread anymore coz im sick of talking about the little runt.


that is bang on!! :brickwall :brickwall :brickwall

he should have put this to bed a long time ago :mad: if he does goes anywhere before the start of next season it will be a step down tho FACT :thumb:

STi wanna Subaru 29 June 2008 01:25 AM


Originally Posted by Craigo86 (Post 7971124)
I'm starting to get bored of this whole Ronaldo thing now, Its as though he is loving everyone talking and guessing about him - he doesn't seem to care about the fans, the club, fergie or his teammates. Paul Ince got it spot on when he said he had spoiled Man U's season Man U won the Prem and the C/L they should still be celebrating not worrying about their best player leaving the club. Ah well i'm not guna bother posting in this thread anymore coz im sick of talking about the little runt.

It's not spoil it one bit for me... still loving it here :thumb: Even better that JT was the one who threw it away for Chelski :lol1:

STi wanna Subaru 29 June 2008 01:27 AM


Originally Posted by ash1 (Post 7970977)
you sound you're gonna top yerself. i think tommy smith would have sorted this little sh1t out with a good old fashion tackle.

I'd like him to stay at Manure and play in the reserves like the Jock says.

Not at all. Just enjoy seeing champions at United.
:thumb:

Tony MY03WRX 29 June 2008 07:20 AM

YouTube - Ronaldo Leaves Utd

spireite 29 June 2008 06:43 PM

Good riddance ,im an FA member and been to the last 6 years home internationals .do you manx remember the buck tooth cnut gettting rooney booked , foriegn players are ruining the premiership .
if i wanted to watch bambi id go to the cinema .
just out of interset how many of you so called manx fans live in the manchester area ,and how many of you are from essex .:wonder: thought so go buy yourself a new shackletons :lol1:

pete higham 29 June 2008 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by spireite (Post 7972512)
Good riddance ,im an FA member and been to the last 6 years home internationals .do you manx remember the buck tooth cnut gettting rooney booked , foriegn players are ruining the premiership .
if i wanted to watch bambi id go to the cinema .
just out of interset how many of you so called manx fans live in the manchester area ,and how many of you are from essex .:wonder: thought so go buy yourself a new shackletons :lol1:


manx :Suspiciou :lol1:

buck tooth?? are you getting the 2 ronaldos mixed up :wonder: i remember him getting him sent off!! the last thing we do is turn on our own player tho, i can understand how that may gaul other supporters but you dont turn on your own :nono:

and no i dont live in the manchester area :thumb: im from salford :luxhello: :luxhello: :luxhello:

spireite 29 June 2008 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by pete higham (Post 7972538)
manx :Suspiciou :lol1:

buck tooth?? are you getting the 2 ronaldos mixed up :wonder: i remember him getting him sent off!! the last thing we do is turn on our own player tho, i can understand how that may gaul other supporters but you dont turn on your own :nono:

and no i dont live in the manchester area :thumb: im from salford :luxhello: :luxhello: :luxhello:

at least your not an essex manx then :) oh and i forgot he got his teeth fixed:thumb: the brace wearing puff :) but still loooks like he'll stab you in the back :lol1:

STi wanna Subaru 29 June 2008 10:02 PM

What an intelligent chap spireite is

spireite 29 June 2008 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru (Post 7973019)
What an intelligent chap spireite is

yep :notworthy

pauld37 30 June 2008 05:50 AM

:lol1:

Funkii Munkii 30 June 2008 07:49 AM

I was thinking British Bulldog tattoo and fully paid up member of the BNP :wonder: :freak3:

Tarkers11 03 July 2008 12:57 PM

Ronaldo is a prick. All he does is dive about anyway. I support Boro and he cons us every season!! And remember the world cup with his club team mate. Knob!! Good riddance, break a leg!! Really!!

STi wanna Subaru 03 July 2008 02:06 PM

Another Mensa member joins the fold :cool:

l1verp00l 03 July 2008 02:25 PM

be ashame to c him leave the PL but i think he will

King Eric 03 July 2008 02:52 PM

His agent and his aides will be telling him that he is at risk of never actually making that dream a reality. The risk that Ronaldo has a season not as good as this years is high, even a fall in goals would be enough to take the spotlight off him and turn Madrid to look at the next best thing. They go after the talent 'at' the time everytime.

So Ronaldo has to face the chance that if he does not do it now he could easily ruin his chances of playing for Madrid-I honestly do not think he is fussed about winning more with United. For him he now believes he has done all that is probably possible to win in his club career, its unlikely he will be a world cup winner with his country so now its time for him to bask in lots more money while he can get it (despite what is thought United have a fairly strict and tight wage structure compared to some other clubs-Ferguson touched this season that some average players in the PL are on more money that most of his squad who lets face it could be starting 11 in most sides)

He is no doubt exciting to watch but again we should not lose (this is for the united fans) sight of the fact that the club is bigger than him and always will be. I personally think Ronaldo believes he is bigger than the club and that Real Madrid would feel priviledged to have him aboard.

As a United fan of many years I only wish that he had someone like Paul Scholes outlook and was a Mancunian. These bloody foreign players always fancy moving abroad. Its the one thing they all say 'One day I'd like to play in spain/Italy' etc

I am not overly concerned about losing him however should he stay there is no doubt that a few thousand United fans will give him some serious grief about the way he has not said what he is doing.

Turbo2 03 July 2008 04:57 PM

Let's hope he just turns into another Jose Antonio Reyes at Real Madrid! Anyone still remember him? Didn't think so!!!

DaveBeck 03 July 2008 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo2 (Post 7981416)
Let's hope he just turns into another Jose Antonio Reyes at Real Madrid! Anyone still remember him? Didn't think so!!!

I remember sick note. getting caught by the spainsh radio show posing as real madrid president. asking if he wanted to move. little ****

STi wanna Subaru 03 July 2008 08:23 PM

Difference is Ronaldo has done it in the Prem ;) He can also take a kick as well.... mind he's not faced G Nev though :D


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