Have contact bbbigman... cheers

I am a scientist;)

I'll agree to disagree, I'm a chemist not a bio-chemist and as such my replies have been based on my A level Biology which I sat 16 years ago....

Although I'm positive that my overall summation is correct, I certainly wont deny that there may well be certain scientific truths in what you are saying. BB'ing nutrition is a huge and interesting field with publication being released all the time which challenge the status quo.

fair comment:thumb:

Does anyone have any weight to sell in the NW area ?? Iron if possible ?

I have enough, but I;d like to not have to change every time I do a different exercise

I'll put my £1 in, I have been body building for 9 years, prior to that doing martial arts for 4 years so I have a little experience.

Firstly are you with a gym, if so what kind of gym is it (i.e does it have machines only or a free weight gym area)?

How tall are you and how much do you currently weigh?

With the above info I could make you a simple and effective plan that will get you results.

varboy appreciate what you put into words i could not, studied proteins ages ago and am no scientist, but scientifically it does store as fat.
serious bodybuilders have no protein deficit or none to speak of due a pre planned diet and amount of training, protein intake is carefully calculated.

beginners tend to overtrain using there protein intake, and with experience start to calculate its usage/ so fat does not show.

at least this has got me repening totora (anatomy and physiology) have not opened it for ages.