yeah, you'd think they'd put another several billion into controlling speeding instead wouldn't you, pmsl

Worst comes to the worst and it becomes a nightmare downloading stuff, me and my mates will just chip in a couple of quid each, buy the dvd we wanted to see, then take it home and just run of 6 or 7 copies off the pc, and dish them out, same effect only marginally more expensive!:thumb:

Dont let them win!

yep, thats what'll happen, and they'll have even less control over it

worst come to the worst, I will just not pay for overpriced rubbish and let them choke on their own greed :D

Oh hold on, I already have done this :lol1: Freeview is great, with patience all is yours :D

:lol1:

Just imagine how much potential revenue would be lost by the ISP's if they had to ban all 6 million downloaders

Even on a modest tenner a month for internet access that the ISP's would no longer get by banning all the illegal downloaders thats one hell of a lot of money they stand to lose

And that would be real money, not the ficticious amount the movie industry say they lose

Exactly! When you download stuff through file sharing its often sh*te quality anyway after you burn it onto disc. Much better to just go out and buy a CD. Its good if you want to hear for e.g what a few songs sound like before you go and buy an album. :thumb:

Alan

First port of call will be tracking those that PAY for illegal material. Credit/bank accounts make easy targets!

That credit card number combined with an IP address is pretty damming evidence (certainly a vital key for tracking, catching and convicting alot of Paedos).

Must admit, this legislation is a bit daft: It's already illegal anyway, so whats the point of new laws?

It always seems the music and film (and computer software) industry wants to have their cake AND eat it. They seem to think that every single prirate copy = one lost sale. When its simply not the case. For me and alot of people, they simply wouldn't buy it anyway.

For example, I wouldn't buy that "Robyn" album as it seemed very iffy, but I d/l'd it see what it was like, and I'm very much glad I didn't buy it (which I wouldn't have done anyway). The music has lost nothing from this, as it ended up in my recycle bin. But potentially, it could gain if I did like it - as stuff I really do like, I tend to buy (once its been reolgated to the bargain bucket ;) ).

Another: AutoCAD; Yes I had it whilst I was a student; there is no way on earth I could afford it, therfore my only option was the :norty: one. After I graduated, I had absolytely no need for it. So again Autodesk didn't lose out, the only people who lost out was Shell, as it saved me the petrol of going to Uni everyday and night to do everything on the lab. computers.

Dont know where you get your stuff from, but my mate gets 320k mp3's and his burned dvd's look fine on a 1080 tv.

Hmm I'm maybe just not downloading from the right place. Cant say I download films though.

Alan

Your mate had better expect a knock on his door soon then ;)

Been watching Heroes Series 2 in HD lately, now if BBC offered this on Freeview and in HD without dodgy compression then there would really be no need for me to download it! I can't see how me downloading TV series should be classed as illegal, if I couldnt get it, I would just wait till its on TV in the UK... or just mask my IP and log onto the ABC site and watch it there.

Surely this would be difficult amd extremely expensive for isp's to police?

Yes, hence a lot of ISP's probably saying they won't agree to the paper without funding from the government. If an ISP has to disconnect 50% of their userbase as they have downloaded a couple of MP3's, won't many ISPs go out of business??? :wonder:

If this goes through, we can say goodbye to any data protection rights we have as ISPs monitor everything we do. Another step towards big brother britain really.

The thing that really gets my goat are the do-goody brigade who will tell you that:

'Downloading is stealing'

Whilst pressing the record button on their VCR to get a copy of 'that film thats on tonight' etc.

Hypocritical Muppets.

Bring back LP's

I wonder if there is a market opportunity for a satellite broadband service that is hosted outside of the UK? :D

Because what they are doing is not illegal, simple as!

Television companies pay fees to be able to broadcast films, and you are allowed to watch (and record for your private use) those films. There is provision in the UK for that.

However, if you download a flim, someone has already broken the law by circumventing copy protection, and then by distributing it without express permission of whoever owns the copyright, or distribution rights etc.

You then break the law by receiving (downloading) what is effectively stolen goods, and probably breaking a few copyright laws to boot.

If you are using P2P software, and then people leech off you, you are breaking more laws etc. etc.

So, they are not being hypocritical at all.

They had a guy on the radio yesterday, a copyright lawyer or something, and even he said it was unenforceable.

They can put legislation in, but they can't technically make it work, so carry on downloading!

Geezer

yeah

but I thought you were supposed to delete it one it was viewed

not keep it