Originally Posted by st3v3
(Post 7180034)
Pete-I don't have to prove anything to anybody and certainly not to a tool like you.
Now run along back under your bridge Troll. Because there is NONE! |
Originally Posted by pslewis
(Post 7180311)
You have NO IDEA whatsoever what the power increase is in BHP - why?
Because there is NONE! Thats all you need to know,Mr Troll |
Originally Posted by st3v3
(Post 7180401)
i have done a back to back test with my Green filter and there was an increase,small, but there was one-fact.
Thats all you need to know,Mr Troll G :D |
Originally Posted by rob2006
(Post 7180173)
Harvey on here did some tests on a dyno using 4 different panel filters
In the order of best to worst for producing power... HKS Green Pannel Sponge. O/E Subaru item. K+N pannel STi panel All filters were within 2bhp of each other. Harvey pointed out that although the HKS gave the most power it was the worst for partial filtration capable of passing quite large grains of sand, now that will kill your MAF and your engine.! I cant comment on an induction kit as the last time i seen one of those it was fitted to my cossie... that was a while back..lol Rob And i't booked in with Mocom tomorrow for new plugs and a re-map. I'll keep you posted:D |
Originally Posted by st3v3
(Post 7180401)
i have done a back to back test with my Green filter and there was an increase,small, but there was one-fact.
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When i bought my WRX it had a Greddy Airinx (old stlye) fitted.
acceleration was awesome and pickup was great. i went back to standard airbox with k and n,acceleration was more sluggish and pickup wasnt as good,have now refitted the Greddy and seems better. Its a big filter too, dry type also. when i removed the old airbox,the wire mesh part of the MAF was filthy,surprising since i had a new k and n in the air box :wonder: :wonder: Heres the Greddy,part of it anyway. Attachment 49735 |
Originally Posted by pslewis
(Post 7181342)
Why are you reluctant to put a figure on it? You have the DATA - please share it with us :thumb:
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USE AANNEL AS THE WORK BETTER , AND SAVES YOU MONEY IN THE LONG RUN
KA |
Originally Posted by karlosthejackel
(Post 7182958)
USE AANNEL AS THE WORK BETTER , AND SAVES YOU MONEY IN THE LONG RUN
KA |
Originally Posted by J_sca001
(Post 7181309)
Exellent! I have the HKS green panel sponge type fitted to my car.
And i't booked in with Mocom tomorrow for new plugs and a re-map. I'll keep you posted:D Harvey pointed out that although the HKS gave the most power it was the worst for partial filtration capable of passing quite large grains of sand, now that will kill your MAF and your engine.! |
Allow me to provide an abridged version, for those of us with short attention spans:
IT'S SH*TE ! Simon |
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well,i`ll let you know how good from new this greddy airinx is,this is it when it has done its job and time to replace........
*engine is ALOT cleaner/ polished up now* Attachment 49737 |
As reference has been made to some testing I did previously, please let me clarify.
Four pannel filters were tried. The "best" performer in terms of power on two separate days was the HKS Green pannel. Next O/E Subaru disposable. Next was the K+N followed by the STi (disposable) The difference was only 2bhp. Prodrive (Mike Wood) confirmed my results were roughly in line with their findings. The tests were done on a car with O/E ECU without any form of remapping which would not have been possible anyway and the chances of mapping making any difference for 2 bhp different air flow are extremely remote. At the same time I also found that removing the inner wing resonator on its own resulted in a decrease in power by, (from memory) 5 bhp. Tests were done one afternoon within 45 mins and as results were not as expected, repeated the following day with similar results. Subsequently I investigated the filtering abilities of each filter as best as I could. Clearly the HKS Green Pannel could pass quite large grains of sand. There was no appreciable difference between the other three although I think the STi is probably best at filtering down to a small micron particle size. On a car I am keeping, I would settle on a K+N as it is reusable and if the sales blurb is to be believed it has good service life. Otherwise I would use the O/E Subaru filter. When the engine was rebuilt on the test car, I know the turbo compressor wheel was unmarked. That turbo was removed over last week-end and the edges of the compressor blades are finely peened and nicked. I will try and post a photo. I had not changed the HKS Green pannel but obviously now wish that I had done. Another lesson learned. The car now has a replacement turbo and a K+N pannel on order from RCMS with a mapping session on the rollers with Steve Simpson this Friday. At a later stage I will try a bigger turbo but while below 350 bhp I will stick with the pannel and O/E induction air box (without a MAF Sensor on the Simtek ECU) I may try an experiment, pannel/cone, especially above 350 bhp. |
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