Originally Posted by B9GLY
(Post 6544937)
Just buy an LSD for the new one if everyone wants one!!!!! they arnt really expensive!
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Originally Posted by Blueblaster
(Post 6544922)
This is just a question and I am not being all hollier than thou. How many people actually drive so fast on B-roads that they suffer traction problems in a CTR?
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LSD should only be in the region of 」500-800, or ABP do switchable traction control for it to!
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Originally Posted by B9GLY
(Post 6545098)
LSD should only be in the region of 」500-800, or ABP do switchable traction control for it to!
Wonder what Hondata are going to fetch for the new 'fly-by-wire' jobby? |
DONT DO IT
Dont do it the new civic ctr is a crock of SH」T, Ive worked for honda for 9 years and cant remember a worst put together piece of crap.
Its made from cheap plastics has loads of rattles and elecrtical probs. And a list of reworks as long as your arm, and thats only on the standard car. Personaly I'm dreading the launch of the ctr as ctr drivers tend to be a bit more pernickity than joe public so no doubt they'll be banging down my door with things like I've got a rattle from alover my car please fix it. |
Jenson Button test Drives NEW JDM Civic Type R in white
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Speedyscoob, the car hasn't been released yet - how could you have worked on one? :confused:
redH To others; as I said, im a massive Honda fan but this car doesnt seem to cut the mustard for me. Regarding the LSD, you might not miss it bacause you might not know you are missing it! They really work, and yes ok you can retrofit one but id expect one for over 」20k! Id take a DC5 over it anyday. Ok its not a UK car, but that has never put me off. MB |
Good video with Jensen - how come its got 4 doors?!
MB |
looks like a Civic Saloon rather than the hatchback. Didn't know they did a type-r version of that one. May be its for the JDM.
Saw autoexpress did a comparison between the Golf and new CTR. Didn't get to drive it but the shots of the interior looked good. I've decided I won't be parting with any of my cash for one. I just can't see it being better then an ST and I can get the ST3 alot cheaper than the CTR. Honda are nuts, they are totally going away from what Type-R stood for. Whatever happened to the "yeah and we even lightened the windscreen and got rid of soundproofing to save weight vibe?" I'd rather have a 0 - 60 of 5 and half seconds than a bloody Sat-Nav and a place to stick curling tongs :D I can't see it selling as well as the mark 2 because that few thousand quid more puts it into a bracket where the competition is serious. When they were 」16k it was just that bit cheaper than the competition. Be interested to see how they cock up the follow up to the S2000 and NSX too......What they need is a consortium of petrolheads to get them back on track. :thumb: |
got my name down for an extended test drive (day or two) in a couple of weeks when my honda dealer get the demo model.. think it will be a GT, but should be interesting to see how it compares to my 2004 CTR, personally not keen on the looks (from photos), but will wait to have a go in one before I make an opinion on it..
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haven't they shortened the gearing and final drive to compensate for the lower power to weight ratio thus making the figures the same as the old one?
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Hi Dark blue, I wasn't reffering to work I have done on the latest type r. Just all the rectification work I've carried out on the new civic in general in 3 and 5 door models. The type r is made by the same people in the same factory and the one I test drove at the factory wasn't ant diff in build quality.
In short i think there's going to be a lot of dissapointed people out there. |
Ah ok, ta.
MB |
Can't wait for these to come out. Then i will biy another old one! :D
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Originally Posted by speedyscoob
(Post 6550547)
Hi Dark blue, I wasn't reffering to work I have done on the latest type r. Just all the rectification work I've carried out on the new civic in general in 3 and 5 door models. The type r is made by the same people in the same factory and the one I test drove at the factory wasn't ant diff in build quality.
In short i think there's going to be a lot of dissapointed people out there. |
Blueblaster - Is yours the 2.2?
Was interested in a test drive. My Astra is 150bhp, 232lbs/ft - The Civic is a bit more. Is it pretty rapid? |
Yep I find it hard to believe for Honda, would doubt they would release anything with more than the usual couple of unavoidable (not a very Japanese statement that!) faults.
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
(Post 6551936)
Blueblaster - Is yours the 2.2?
Was interested in a test drive. My Astra is 150bhp, 232lbs/ft - The Civic is a bit more. Is it pretty rapid? Pan-European DVD Sat Nav with traffic alerts/re-reouting and info on hotels, petrol stations, restaurants, hospitals....and on and on Sensational stereo 18 inch alloys Dual zone climate control Multi function trip computer Cruise control Multi-function steering wheel Metalic paint Roof rack with ski carrier Electric heated folding mirrors Front fogs Quick clear windscreen Brilliant design ideas like the way the rear seats fold and the storage options. It is just one of those cars that has been really well thought out. Every time you drive it you think to yourself "isn't that a good idea" or "that works really well". The 2.2 doesn't give best the best economy in it's class, but I average 55mpg trundling about so that is just fine for me:thumb: Edited to say I also have little extras that the likes of BMW charge a fortune for like a spare wheel and a cargo net and quality mats etc. Incredible value |
Hi Blueblaster I dont manufacture the cars I have to keep them on the road after people buy them. I take it you have had your eps recall done? your boot also opens 1st time when you want it? and your fuel flap release works your rear shockys dont knock? and your windscreen doesnt creak? you dont go through gallons of oil cause your turbo works fine?
The point I was making was the fact that in the 9 years I've worked on hondas this is the worst for rectifaction work. |
Blue - Astra was similar (although not so well known for reliability but mine's been faultless).
Things like auto lights, lumbar adjust, proper computer, adustable lashing hooks, etc, etc, all standard. I do like the Civic though, and the diesel has the torque lacking in the CTR. |
Originally Posted by speedyscoob
(Post 6552167)
Hi Blueblaster I dont manufacture the cars I have to keep them on the road after people buy them. I take it you have had your eps recall done? your boot also opens 1st time when you want it? and your fuel flap release works your rear shockys dont knock? and your windscreen doesnt creak? you dont go through gallons of oil cause your turbo works fine?
The point I was making was the fact that in the 9 years I've worked on hondas this is the worst for rectifaction work. No EPS recall, boot fine, shocks fine, no creaks, no oil required in 6000 miles although I admit the remote filler cap did need adjusting. Maybe it was just the early cars that needed work? Actually, I also must admit that the boot sometimes doesn't shut quite right but it is only occasionally and will be sorted at the service. No need to put it in just for that - the catch just needs adjusting |
Originally Posted by Matteeboy
(Post 6552208)
Blue - Astra was similar (although not so well known for reliability but mine's been faultless).
Things like auto lights, lumbar adjust, proper computer, adustable lashing hooks, etc, etc, all standard. I do like the Civic though, and the diesel has the torque lacking in the CTR. |
I thought the S2000 had too many inherernt faults - wasnt impressed with that aspect of it.
Off topic, but the following are VERY common and often expensive. Some were fixed on later revisions. Corroded suspension bushes (extremely expensive) Corroding alloy wheels Siezing rear callipers Creaking rear hub nuts Torn roof by side windows Plastic rear screen cracks MAP sensor doesn't cope with heat soak and bounds down the road - hesitates etc Remote boot open works randomly MB |
Blueblaster, you mention how well thought out the new Civic is but doesn't that rear spoiler obscuring your vision get on your tits ?
Whoever signed that off, clearly didn't check the rear view mirror........... |
It is no worse than an Impreza/Evo/Accord Type-R/Cosworth rear wing. I would probably have ordered a rear windscreen wiper if it had been an option although it would have spoiled the clean lines.
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as for the new CTR power - everyone seems to be looking at peak power and also the power to weight ratio - The new engine has been tuned to deliver peak power lower in the rev range and over an extended period. So on paper people say its not as quick cos its only got the same power etc - however the new CTR engine is in a more useable state of tune and in regular day to day driving I would specultae that its is just as quick.
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The new Civic I went in had really bad rear view, so with a spoiler its going to be VVV bad. The dash is also quite long and you cant see the bonnet.
MB |
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