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pslewis 20 December 2005 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by Shaun
Look mate... I only own and run the site... I don't know how to spall as well!!! :D

I know, you should be proud that you have a pslewis .............. it's not every BBS that can boast one of them you know??

Have you ever thought how good pslewis is for business?? ;) :D

Pete

sparky d 20 December 2005 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by pslewis
I do NOT use a spellchecker!!

I use my education!!

Thats all!!

Pete :D


Well educate this :hjtwofing and chill out you old fossil :D

dpb 20 December 2005 10:48 PM

Are they biting well today Pete..?..:)

pslewis 20 December 2005 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by dpb
Are they biting well today Pete..?..:)

Lots and lots of newbies to blood ......................

My mummy said there would be days like this :D :D :D

Pete

Roojai 20 December 2005 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by pslewis
Engine Mapping???

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Biggest scam going that!!

You paid for Subaru to map your ECU - after they have spent £Millions on research and do the best job possible ............. then what do you do??

MUGS!!! :D

Only pay £700 for some Geek to do it all again!! :rolleyes:

Pete


Pete,

They also spent millions getting the engine right, including the length of the dipstick but you are prepared to use your own rules for that.

By your own logic, who are you to decide that keeping the oil level at absolute minimum is best for the engine when subaru recommend somewhere between the upper and lower limit.

By the way, I am not argueing about how much oil to put in your car, just that you are happy to follow your own rules for that and then dismiss everyone elses opinion on anything else.

pslewis 20 December 2005 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by Roojai
Pete,

They also spent millions getting the engine right, including the length of the dipstick but you are prepared to use your own rules for that.

By your own logic, who are you to decide that keeping the oil level at absolute minimum is best for the engine when subaru recommend somewhere between the upper and lower limit.

By the way, I am not argueing about how much oil to put in your car, just that you are happy to follow your own rules for that and then dismiss everyone elses opinion on anything else.

And your problem is ................ what exactly??

Oil on the low mark on the dipstick to prevent it getting where it shouldn't is accepted good advice ............. taking tour ECU outside of it's design envelope is NOT!!

Pete

capita 21 December 2005 12:40 AM


Originally Posted by pslewis
I still think that Subaru delivers the best all round package of longevity (15 years+ and 150,000miles of trouble free motoring)

Decent mpg figures (I return 35mpg easily)

Reliablility (mile upon mile of solid performance)

Pissing about with the package compromises reliability (engines blown apart) economy (10mpg) .....................

Buy the car you WANT, not one you have to change! :rolleyes:

Pete

Pete, I have been warned that you are a wind up merchant, but you talk quite literally cow pooh!

The car from Subaru as it stands is set up to cope with the worst 95 octane fuel available, from speaking to my mate a Prodrive he said th std eng will run 92 albeit the crank sensor will retard something Chronic. There is an allowance built in for people that do not perform the service interval at the correct time and a certain allowance for others whom do not allow proper warm up before full throttle.

A remap and supporting mods (All DOT, MOT compliant) will allow the Air/fuel to be tuned to 97/98 octane (advanced ignition) and for certain stringent noise levels at government set rpm to be by passed. If a std car with no mods is remapped for even 95 octane this willgenerally improve the efficiency of the engine hence freeing up either more MPG or power, whichever you choose to use.

We have a UK car running just under 300 bhp and similar torque it does 33 MPG when driven selectively and certainly is not feathered, when driven enthusiastically returns approx 24 MPG. Mapping is a product of refining the system, the std sys can run in any country at most ambients, if you know you dont need to run at an ambient of 45 degrees why have a tune that reflects this?

By the way my father is a Chartered Mechanical Engineer (Retired 76 yrs old) whom spen 44 yrs designing engines and setting them up from scratch so i have a fair inside knowledge before you preach to me.

I am unsure why even at this great time of year you come on SN looking to upset people you should be happy to be in the same ownership club.

If you want economy and power go buy an Alpina D10!

Happy Christmas to all inc Pete

Regards

Rob

capita 21 December 2005 12:49 AM


Originally Posted by capita
Pete, I have been warned that you are a wind up merchant, but you talk quite literally cow pooh!

The car from Subaru as it stands is set up to cope with the worst 95 octane fuel available, from speaking to my mate a Prodrive he said th std eng will run 92 albeit the crank sensor will retard something Chronic. There is an allowance built in for people that do not perform the service interval at the correct time and a certain allowance for others whom do not allow proper warm up before full throttle.

A remap and supporting mods (All DOT, MOT compliant) will allow the Air/fuel to be tuned to 97/98 octane (advanced ignition) and for certain stringent noise levels at government set rpm to be by passed. If a std car with no mods is remapped for even 95 octane this willgenerally improve the efficiency of the engine hence freeing up either more MPG or power, whichever you choose to use.

We have a UK car running just under 300 bhp and similar torque it does 33 MPG when driven selectively and certainly is not feathered, when driven enthusiastically returns approx 24 MPG. Mapping is a product of refining the system, the std sys can run in any country at most ambients, if you know you dont need to run at an ambient of 45 degrees why have a tune that reflects this?

By the way my father is a Chartered Mechanical Engineer (Retired 76 yrs old) whom spen 44 yrs designing engines and setting them up from scratch so i have a fair inside knowledge before you preach to me.

I am unsure why even at this great time of year you come on SN looking to upset people you should be happy to be in the same ownership club.

If you want economy and power go buy an Alpina D10!

Happy Christmas to all inc Pete

Regards

Rob

PS Which one are you lol?

PETER S LEWIS 3 Removed as it was not perhaps in the best taste

Merry Christmas

Rob

Dream Weaver 21 December 2005 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by pslewis
Engine Mapping???

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Biggest scam going that!!

You paid for Subaru to map your ECU - after they have spent £Millions on research and do the best job possible ............. then what do you do??

MUGS!!! :D

Only pay £700 for some Geek to do it all again!! :rolleyes:

Pete

All depends whether you have a mappable ECU ;)

I do, and you'd love it - I can map it for economy if required ;) (in the 205, not in a Scoob btw)

Peanuts 21 December 2005 11:20 AM

Capita, :)

Lewis, God is spelt with a capital G.

capita 21 December 2005 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Peanuts
Capita, your a prick for posting that

Public info 192.com . People on here are happy to be personal.
Prick- possibly

dpb 21 December 2005 11:39 AM

Do reckon Pete would leave any possibilty of being contacted on this bbs or any other with the kind of 'abuse' he meters out......:lol1:

Sport160 21 December 2005 12:58 PM

LOL.....what a great thread

Peanuts 21 December 2005 01:18 PM

Capita,
that was a very quick quote as well, got in before I corrected my own grammar ;)

capita 21 December 2005 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by Peanuts
Capita,
that was a very quick quote as well, got in before I corrected my own grammar ;)

LOL Peanuts, thanks.

Best Wishes to ALL on here, even you Uncle Pete:lol:

Roojai 21 December 2005 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by pslewis
And your problem is ................ what exactly??

Oil on the low mark on the dipstick to prevent it getting where it shouldn't is accepted good advice ............. taking tour ECU outside of it's design envelope is NOT!!

Pete

Whos says one is accepted good advice and the other is not? Thats opinion. Where do you draw the line. Is disconnecting the crank sensor to crank the engine after an oil change 'accepted good advice' (just an example please don't go through all of that again!).

With your dipstick protocol, you have obviously listened to advice, tried it and found it to be beneficial (or at least not damaging) and decided to adopt it as best practice. That is what others have done on here with other things (eg knocklinks, remaps etc etc).

Once you start following unproven advice there is no longer any definate right or wrong and you have only your own experience to go by. The problem is: you shoot down all the advice and experience of others without an open mind or ever experiencing it for yourself.

Thats is what we call being a closed minded old man afraid of change. You've got your hymn book out one second, then put it away the next minute to back your own opinion up. The only reason I don't feel sorry for you is that I know you love winding people up and you just get pleasure out of all of this, even when you know you are wrong.

Blue94WRX300 21 December 2005 01:40 PM

Must say I have been in stitches reading this... a very good thread indeed. Somewhat off the initial subject question but hey!!

I think Pete has a very very small point in that out of the box, the scooby is a very very good package... BUT at the end of the day it is still designed for the mass market, as has been mentioned.

Any large car manufacturer has to put in room for manoever, so that Mr Twit can put 95RON in there, expect the power and the MPG all to be good. So that leaves massive room for development and improvement as you move into the higher end of tuning expectations.

Let's face it even Porsche are now producing cars that fit into a market space, with their Cayman S... That's not engineered to it's full potential and costs a fookin' arm, a leg and a left bollock!!

Very good thread though... :lol1:

K.

davedipster 21 December 2005 04:35 PM

Don't rolling roads use random number generators to get the final HP figures?

As a tuning aid to check fueling etc then ok, and checking gains/losses on the same day ok. But other than that they are pointless.

dipster

Flatcapdriver 21 December 2005 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by pslewis
taking tour ECU outside of it's design envelope is NOT!!
Pete

Pete. A minor point but that should be 'your', not 'tour' ECU out of it's design envelop is 'not'!

It would seem your education isn't quite up to it. Otherwise, carry on.

:thumb:

pslewis 21 December 2005 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by Flatcapdriver
Pete. A minor point but that should be 'your', not 'tour' ECU out of it's design envelop is 'not'!

It would seem your education isn't quite up to it. Otherwise, carry on.

:thumb:

Someone in the home swapped the T and Y keys around while I was emptying my bag ...................... if I find out who iy was :mad:

Pete :D

cookstar 21 December 2005 07:53 PM

What amazes me is how many people bite at pslewis :lol1:

He gets them every time. Carry on :thumb:


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