Havent even read the thread but the answer to your question is ...............

YES

I think you will find it is only the spare wheel cover that is cardboard (and there isn't a spare wheel anyway, just a can of expanding foam ;) ) IIRC.

Nate.

CSL is the next jump up from an STi PPP.

Oh and yes its quicker, def quicker than my 329bhp MY03 anyway.

Gary

CSL's are nice cars but they are better motors out there for the money you would spend on one.

IMO id rather have a R34 GTR

I'd have a CSL any day. None of the Japanese cars compare for style and class :)

Steve, they were developed for the Porsche Cup series, as an endurance race tyre. It was only the 19" version that was 'developed' for the CSL.

19"s where it's at ;)

just my peneth... The CSL has posted some awome lap times in many mag tests now, it really does cut the mustard when it comes to fast laps no doubt about it... in terms of outright pace then 100 in 10.8 isn't hanging around but the reall gem of the car is the handling its several seconds a lap faster than a std M3 so i'd say a true drivers car...!
M3 or sti
let me think DOH!
I love my Sti but the M3 CSL is the beter car... by some way!

just for comparison heres the figures...

Laps
MR340 lap 56.4
911 GT3 RS 54.2
Gallardo 55.7
Type 25 55.5
CSL 54.75


CSL 0-100 10.8
M3 12.12
Civic T R 16.02
Audi TT 16.5


Dazza

The enemy of all cars is weight and the R34 weighs approx 350Kg more than the CSL. A 'standard' R34 only has about 320bhp aswell. Factor in the additional transmission loss for AWD and I'd say it would have some trouble keeping up ;)

Not quite sure it weights in anywhere near the weight of a spec c ;)
Unless they have chopped 300kg off the standard car :p

Tony:D

Thats quite impressive, so how would my T25 with an extra 40hp do? ;) :D

There are only two cars I could would have and I could just about afford if I wanted to get rid of the T25. One is a Noble and the other is a CSL :D I enjoy driving a standard M3 so the CSL must be something else :D

Actually only ever seen one and the thing that I liked about it was the noise it made :norty:

An R34 is a lot more tunable than a csl though.
If you spent the same amout of money on both cars and im not talking £000's it soon becomes a different story

Taken from EVO mag:-

Subaru STi Type RA Spec C:- 1380kg

BMW M3 CSL:- 1385kg

BMW M3:- 1570kg

My Leightweight backbox took some weight off mine aswell, so we're talking the same figures. Unless Evo mag got the weight of the Spec C wrong? :confused:

Indeed R34 can go upto silly power.

Really depends if you want a car with BMW warrenty etc etc, or a crazy skyline.

I'd need to have both :norty:

1350kg for the 17inch spec c, 1320kg for the 16 inch, special editions "may" be slightly heavier, but not by much ;)

Tony:D

skylines are alright and very tuneable.

what about the loaded bmw m3 csl with the supercharger?!?

now that is rapid! rather have that than any skyline

Goes to show what evo mag knows! :Whatever_

I'll start ripping my rear seats out :norty:

Indeed, that is abit quick!

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