5 years ago I stayed in Rui Bellevue which is right next door to where the main attack took place and my parents were holidaying in Tunisia just 2 weeks ago. Their hotel was a 30 minute beach walk along the coast from the attack. The Tunisians are very nice people (much more than Egypt that's for sure) and hopefully they won't get tarnished.

Beats me why anyone holidays in North Africa now. All manner of hell is right next door to anywhere you go - easy cross border access for complete nutters and their weapons.

Surely you get the same kind of holiday anywhere in coastal Mediterranean Europe.

Myself and my family are heading back to Turkey in September, my wife is now in two minds whether she wants to go which is a fair comment seeing as the Tunisian attack could be just the start of IS spreading its wings with heavily populated holiday destinations a target no matter where it is.

This really isn't a situation I want to put my family into.

Agree with you there, Id stay away from these countries, The locals couldn't care less about you apart from your money, and now IS are spreading there hatred to young North Africans who think that its OK to murder the people who have kept there sh1t hole countries running and kept there people in work, when the tourists stop going and the hotels get boarded up and there is no work, lets see how good life is under IS if that's what they want.:hjtwofing

Plenty of warm European countries to visit.

A terrible tragedy for sure.
People around the world up in arms, and rightly so.
Only a grain of salt in comparison to the many hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians killed maimed and injured during our (UK/US) invasion of Iraq on false pretences. Not many batted an eyelid at this, still not one person culpable for one of the biggest mass genacides of our generation.
Who are the real terrorists here???
Fcuking amazes me!!

the guy deserves a bravery award in my eyes..its easy to run away and save your own life but to sit and take a bullet and risk the likely chance of being killed and never seeing your partner and children again takes real bravery. without being in the situation its hard to say what any of us would do but I like to think that I would do my upmost to protect and save the lives of my loved ones and if that ment chancing my life for them then ide do that.

its a true sad event which I hope never happens again but in all likeliness it will, wether it be abroad or in the uk nowhere is now a 'safe' place to be its that simple. pilots are crashing planes, people are being beheaded, random stabbings, lone gunmen are in holiday resorts.. its no longer a case of isolated incidents anymore its becoming weekly events all over the world.

Go hug some trees you f***ing mong. People like you make my blood boil. :mad:

You wouldn,t get me going to anywhere in North Africa too unstable in my opinion, plus I don't do planes ......

What an intelligent response. Nothing more than aggressive sheep with a bad attitude. If you read my post of course I agree with the majority, a terrible event that does indeed sadden me.
All I suggested was our governments are as bad as if not worse than the terrorists themselves.
Now do yourself a favour and stop acting like an aggressive thug behind your keyboard 200 miles away, it doesn't work and only makes you look like fairy.
Thanks for your concern though cupcake:thumb:

Out of interest do you have any idea how many innocent men women and children were killed in the invasion and aftermath?

50,000, 100,000, half a million, or maybe you simply "don't give a fvck"

Maybe you think that they probably deserved it?

Tbh I totally agree with your pragmatic view on this but only because I'm not there. I think pragmatism would probably exit without visiting the gift shop if I was there in the moment. I don't think you should have to justify yourself too much either, you've not been deliberately insincere. It's just way easier to see things differently from the safety of your own home.

I was of this thinking a few years back. The not-yet Wife and I were going to Elope over in Kenya. Started doing research, planning it out and Somalian incursions begun and that was that. I'd genuinely love to go out there at some point but my spidey senses say not for the time being.

There's a difference between caught up and aimed at.

Yes, my wife and I went to Kenya a few years ago - not sure I would go now

The world seems to be getting a less safe place

Did we go in to help? Yes
Did we go in to kill innocent people? No

I do give a fuck, I'd love the world to be a happy loving place, but it never will be. But when we have a major incident where tourists(from any country, not just the British) get gunned down and killed when this war on terror has nothing to do with them and you having do gooders bringing up how many we killed in past wars/invasion, it annoys me.

but unless you try and understand the reasons/rational the drives these maniacs you are never going to stop the carnage

this guy may well blame the UK for its part in the killing of 50, 100, 500 hundred thousand innocent men women and children and the bombing of a country / region to the stone age

whether we think we came to "help" or not is pretty irrelevant imo

President Bush in his many barmy childlike utterances on the whole "war on terror" said something once in a speech, that was so stupid it almost defied belief

it was commented on at the time - but not enough imo, as the thought process behind it was so dangerous

he basically said that the US was a force for good (so far so good) but then went on to deny the right of anybody to take a different view, to do so was to automatically call them an enemy and a potential terrorist

he actually believed that people had no right to have any other view - that is the mindset of someone with such limited intellectual capacity that having them in any position of authority / responsibility was always going to end in tears

luckily compared to Iraq we got off quite lightly

might look into a holiday in iraq since the usa/uk have gone in there and sorted it

i read somewhere that its the month of ramadan just now and that there is terrorist badness planned more so during this time

Karma!!!:hjtwofing
http://metro.co.uk/2015/07/08/45-isi...-food-5286501/

Karma indeed!

Go to Greece, it's about to become really cheap!

A lot of truths in this post let's face it if it was a leader of a country outside of Europe or the USA the likes of Tony Blair would of been put on trial at the Haig charged with war crimes. Fact! What he and Bush did in our name was a disgrace and now the world is paying for it. Don't worry Tony Blair still earns millions of pounds a year going around the world preaching peace! What a joke. Then his wife is also making millions defending terrorists human rights! Again a joke considering it was Tony Blairs government who bought in the human right act so even when we know their wrong en's we still can't fook them off to where they come from. Again a joke. Tony Blair should face the music for what he's done but that will never happen. Yes you guessed it another joke!!!!:nono:

Could you point me to the stories where UK/US troops stormed beaches and started killing people having a sunbathe? Cheers

I think the point he is making is that if the allies had not stirred up the hornets nest invading countries under false pretences the world would be a calmer place. What we all have to remember here is what would we do if the boot was on the other foot. It's all wrong what's going on but my fear is what amount of loss of life and disruption will happen until it stops. Scary times I'm afraid. I worry for my children, I have 6 children ages 27 down to 4 what world are they going to be living when they are my age(48) how will this ever get resolved?:(

He's suggesting our military/politicians are more the terrorists than a bloke with a machine gun killing sunbathers on a beach.

If he really believes this is true, he is free to leave this terrorism-entrenched nation.

This attack has very little to do with UK/US military intervention. The victims were not limited to UK citizens, it just so happened that the majority affected were from the UK. The same terrorists killed tourists from Japan, Italy, Columbia, Australia, France, Poland and Spain in March of this year in the Tunisian capital. The terrorists were jihadists, that is all unbelievers are targets.

Sura 9:5

Thanks for that.