Originally Posted by tony de wonderful (Post 10055960)

He's saying the BBC should report the pro-Palestinian narrative, it's quite clear he is biased, just he shamefully veils this behind 'contextualization' and pseudo-scientific 'research'.

Originally Posted by tony de wonderful (Post 10054378)

You should right a poem about their 'concern' for the Pallies, read it like a School Girl in assembly.:rolleyes:

The pro-Palestinian side couldn't give a toss about the Pallies. The Arabs keep them locked up in refugee camps after all this time and deny them citizenship and rights etc. I'm talking Jordan, Syrian etc.

Gadaffi kicked them out of Libya and told them to walk home a few years ago.

Rich Arab states could have resettled them years ago just doesn't suit them to have the problem solved. Their elites use the Israelis to focus their populations anger and frustration on...to divert the blame from their own failings.

The Islamists exploit the conflict for their own political ends, and the euro left exploit the conflict to give themselves some relevance.

Believe me, the last thing they do is 'care' about the Pallies. It's just a pose.

Originally Posted by JTaylor (Post 10054117)

Hamas appropriating 'The Elders' or the imagined response of Netanyahu?

Originally Posted by AsifScoob (Post 10056141)

Ooohhh you're so nasty!!

Going by your own logic, what has the fate of the Palestinians got to do with other Arab nations? Why should they take the slack for your murdering, Zionist friends and let them off the hook?

Tell the European, Zionist, land stealing, scumbags to feck off back to their own country.

You surely approve of this anti mass immigration stategy?

Originally Posted by tony de wonderful (Post 10054308)

Looks like you have run out of argument.

Originally Posted by tony de wonderful (Post 10056148)

The Arab states went to war on the Pallies behalf in 1948 and lost them their share of the partition.

They caused half the problem...the exodus etc.

Originally Posted by AsifScoob (Post 10056150)

The irony of course is that if you ever tried to go to Israel, they would never let you in, because you have been to places like Libya, or have you??:wonder:

Originally Posted by tony de wonderful (Post 10056162)

It's the other way around. Muslims countries might not let you in if you have an Israel stamp.

Anyway I have two passports.:lol1:

Originally Posted by AsifScoob (Post 10056461)

No, it's both ways. Trust you turn it into an anti Muslim comment. :Whatever_

Originally Posted by tony de wonderful (Post 10056484)

No it's not.

Originally Posted by AsifScoob (Post 10056143)

Whatever Hamas says is cool with me. ;)

Originally Posted by AsifScoob (Post 10056461)

No, it's both ways. Trust you turn it into an anti Muslim comment. :Whatever_

So, you lie to your Israeli bretheren? Says it all really. :Whatever_

Anyway, stop lying about your travels, you have never left your council estate in Cheetham Hill.:lol1:

Originally Posted by JTaylor (Post 10056692)

Why the wink? Can't commit? :)

Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 10056708)

Cheetham Hill?.... more like Sedgeley Park ;) :D :D

Originally Posted by AsifScoob (Post 10058433)

Sorry to say this James, it's so that you realise that I am joking.

I wouldn't want you to quote that to me in say, another anti Muslim thread/Anti Israeli thread in future: accusing me of wanting to kill Jews or something.

I hope that's ok?

Originally Posted by JTaylor (Post 10058508)

So you don't support Hamas, then? :)

Originally Posted by AsifScoob (Post 10058435)

I felt CH to be more appropriate, as it is an area with a quite a Pakistani population, so I am told, and of course home to the World Famous Embassy Club.:D

Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 10059112)

LOL, ah I get you ;) Just Sedgeley Park has one or two kosher shops ;)

Originally Posted by AsifScoob (Post 10059102)

Yes I do. I don't necessarily support everything that they do, but they are the legitimate voice of Gaza.

If I lived there, I would vote for them.

Instead of rejecting them from day one, the Israelis, who brought about the existence of Hamas, should have dealt with them better.

Who knows? They might have got Hamas to voluntarily drop their failure to recognise Israel and perhaps saved a few lives on both sides.

Do you unequivocally support Israel? :)

Originally Posted by JTaylor (Post 10059135)

Yes. If one cares about this any equivication's already desolved. That doesn't mean I don't struggle with the ethical and moral challenges, but owing to my beliefs any other position would be uncogent, hypocritical and dishonest. Do I have compassion and sympathy and understanding for the people (not the militants) known as Palestinians? Absolutely.

Did you read the League of Nations document? :)

Originally Posted by JTaylor (Post 10059135)

Yes. If one cares about this any equivication's already desolved. That doesn't mean I don't struggle with the ethical and moral challenges, but owing to my beliefs any other position would be uncogent, hypocritical and dishonest. Do I have compassion and sympathy and understanding for the people (not the militants) known as Palestinians? Absolutely.

Did you read the League of Nations document? :)

Originally Posted by AsifScoob (Post 10059102)

Yes I do. I don't necessarily support everything that they do, but they are the legitimate voice of Gaza.

If I lived there, I would vote for them.

Instead of rejecting them from day one, the Israelis, who brought about the existence of Hamas, should have dealt with them better.

Who knows? They might have got Hamas to voluntarily drop their failure to recognise Israel and perhaps saved a few lives on both sides.

Do you unequivocally support Israel? :)

Originally Posted by tony de wonderful (Post 10059224)

Should the Pallies take responsibility for anything?

Originally Posted by AsifScoob (Post 10059242)

I'll tell you what Tone, I'll answer some of your questions, if you answer some of mine. Fair?

And don't say you have. Your ducking and diving is quite tiresome and shows a complete lack of debate (like that was news to me!)

Originally Posted by tony de wonderful (Post 10059278)

I'm not ducking anything except that other thread about my ethnicity which I won't dignify with an answer.

I've already outlined a response to your 'bet'.