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hodgy0_2 04 July 2016 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by gary77 (Post 11855060)
I just tried to find out how many eu regulations there are in the uk .
I didnt find out . But i did stumble across thishttp://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/685...UK-post-Brexit

This could be the kind of regulation i thinkbyou mean hodgy.

As i read the content of that link my blood started to boil and i remember why i voted out .
If we dont get a capable leader in this country i will seriously consider emigrating .

It did cross my mind also the the eu wants to destroy our great nation .
Im very happy scotland didnt vote yes to independance . The uk has to stand together now

great you read the content - now can you tell me specifically what regulations it is regarding ports, that worries you so much

gary77 04 July 2016 09:12 PM

Yes so if we agree to that everythimg will be fine with europe and we'll be able to trade with the rest of the world as we and said world please.

gary77 04 July 2016 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by hodgy0_2 (Post 11855077)
great you read the content - now can you tell me specifically what regulations it is regarding ports, that worries you so much

Do i have to re write it in my own words much like a school assignment .

I'll sum it up in as short a way possible. Uk ports are mostly private.other eu ports in the eu are state owned. And with the new regulation the eu ports will get funding and ours will have to change

hodgy0_2 04 July 2016 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by gary77 (Post 11855080)
Yes so if we agree to that everythimg will be fine with europe and we'll be able to trade with the rest of the world as we and said world please.

no, everything won't be fine

we are undoubtedly in a worse place for the immediate and mid term


anyway - back to the content of that Express article, what are these new port regulations

edit - I will have to read the article again then!!

gary77 04 July 2016 09:21 PM

Look up. Im very stupid so i cant complete my assignment satisfactorally .

Of coarse the content could all be lies .idk. but basically our ports will be screwed .thats what it said. I would appreciate your take on the article in question

hodgy0_2 04 July 2016 09:25 PM

well that's why I asked you

I have read it - it contains a lot of words but says nothing

it seems simply designed to "push buttons" of anti EU people

I will have to read it again

gary77 04 July 2016 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by hodgy0_2 (Post 11855084)
no, everything won't be fine

we are undoubtedly in a worse place for the immediate and mid term


anyway - back to the content of that Express article, what are these new port regulations

edit - I will have to read the article again then!!

I accepted things would be worse in the immediate and mid term .im fine with that.
Do you have any further comment on the problem of who we will trade with or is your only concern the free movement and regulations wed have to agree to.

gary77 04 July 2016 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by hodgy0_2 (Post 11855090)
well that's why I asked you

I have read it - it contains a lot of words but says nothing

it seems simply designed to "push buttons" of anti EU people

I will have to read it again

Why didnt you just say that .

I agree with you . Maybe it is all bull****

hodgy0_2 04 July 2016 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by gary77 (Post 11855094)
Why didnt you just say that .
*

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt

look I have read it again, i have looked into the Ports Services Regulations

http://www.ashfords.co.uk/eu-port-se...moves-forward/

http://ukmajorports.org.uk/eu/ (industry body website)

it simply a sensationalist article designed to push buttons and "enrage"

We sold off our ports service, (presumably getting cash for it in the process) in the EU most are state funded

these "rules" favour state funded ports (the article never actually says what they are!!!!)

but our privatised ports (part owned by Goldman Sachs) are making a song and dance about it - quelle surprise

it simply sound like a technical argument that neither you or I are capable of understanding tbh

but then the Express know this - that's why they print sh1t like this

gary77 04 July 2016 09:46 PM

Its the port services regulation that may or may not kill our ports . Im sure our great leader will sort it all out . Whoever that might be

Edited to say . I Just read your post above

gary77 04 July 2016 09:48 PM

Thank **** for that. I was ready for war

Petem95 04 July 2016 10:03 PM

I see Charlotte Church is speaking out for the Remain voters on Twitter. In response to Farage saying he wants his life back, she comes out with


I want my f**king European Union back you piece of sh*t!!!!!
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/po...nigel-11564132

Seems all the Liberals and Remain voters are loving her comment..

Based on the above article and well chosen 'non biased' pictures 'Wales Online' is a left leaning publication...

Martin2005 04 July 2016 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by Petem95 (Post 11855115)
I see Charlotte Church is speaking out for the Remain voters on Twitter. In response to Farage saying he wants his life back, she comes out with



http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/po...nigel-11564132

Seems all the Liberals and Remain voters are loving her comment..

Based on the above article and well chosen 'non biased' pictures 'Wales Online' is a left leaning publication...

The only thing liberal is your use of the word 'all' :)

markjmd 04 July 2016 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by neil-h (Post 11855062)
Yes El Commandante, I am most pleased to be your honourable and humble servant from today until the day you see it fit to end my service.

Good man :thumb:

alcazar 05 July 2016 08:38 AM

Ports regulations:

As I understand it, the new regs will require ALL EU ports to put the contracts for port services, (pilots, tugs, dredging, mooring, repairs cleaning etc) out to tender.

This is fine for those in Europe since they are mostly huge and state owned. Ours in the UK are much smaller and privately owned. Our ports do their own services.

IF we were not to put it out to tender, those ports would not be allowed to operate. IF we put it out to tender, we MUST accept the lowest bid, which will be from the huge companies servicing continental ports, with the result that hundreds of UK workers would again be out of work, and the ports no longer in control of their own servicing, meaning the smaller ports might have to wait for repairs, dredging etc.

This is as I have heard it from both a local Humber pilot and a terminal manager at Immingham.

trails 05 July 2016 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 11855000)
Dolittle I think - the pixies I mean , got it downstairs :)


That's the puppy :)

JTaylor 05 July 2016 09:26 AM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mK3iSglbZUM

dpb 05 July 2016 09:50 AM

+ Here comes your man :thumb:

trails 05 July 2016 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 11855206)
Ports regulations:

As I understand it, the new regs will require ALL EU ports to put the contracts for port services, (pilots, tugs, dredging, mooring, repairs cleaning etc) out to tender.

This is fine for those in Europe since they are mostly huge and state owned. Ours in the UK are much smaller and privately owned. Our ports do their own services.

IF we were not to put it out to tender, those ports would not be allowed to operate. IF we put it out to tender, we MUST accept the lowest bid, which will be from the huge companies servicing continental ports, with the result that hundreds of UK workers would again be out of work, and the ports no longer in control of their own servicing, meaning the smaller ports might have to wait for repairs, dredging etc.

This is as I have heard it from both a local Humber pilot and a terminal manager at Immingham.


So our ports are in private hands but they must accept the lowest tender. Smells like BS to me.

dpb 05 July 2016 10:39 AM

Well the port here Newhaven is owned by the French with eu funding , and they use several local companies for everything afaik

They also run the ferry / tender out the ferry service ( ld lines presently)

alcazar 05 July 2016 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by trails (Post 11855232)
So our ports are in private hands but they must accept the lowest tender. Smells like BS to me.

Not gonna argue with you, you seem to know more about it than those that work there.:Whatever_

neil-h 05 July 2016 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 11855206)
Ports regulations:

As I understand it, the new regs will require ALL EU ports to put the contracts for port services, (pilots, tugs, dredging, mooring, repairs cleaning etc) out to tender.

This is fine for those in Europe since they are mostly huge and state owned. Ours in the UK are much smaller and privately owned. Our ports do their own services.

IF we were not to put it out to tender, those ports would not be allowed to operate. IF we put it out to tender, we MUST accept the lowest bid, which will be from the huge companies servicing continental ports, with the result that hundreds of UK workers would again be out of work, and the ports no longer in control of their own servicing, meaning the smaller ports might have to wait for repairs, dredging etc.

This is as I have heard it from both a local Humber pilot and a terminal manager at Immingham.

And this kids is one of my biggest bug bears with the public sector, there's almost always a compromise between cost and quality. Yet the public sector will always lean towards saving a few quid over a better quality product/service. :brickwall

hodgy0_2 05 July 2016 12:43 PM

for anyone that is interested in the Brexit plan

full details here

http://thebrexitplan.com/

dpb 05 July 2016 12:55 PM

:D :(







The mastermind is so confident, he's already gone home

JTaylor 05 July 2016 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by hodgy0_2 (Post 11855281)
for anyone that is interested in the Brexit plan

full details here

http://thebrexitplan.com/

:lol1:

trails 05 July 2016 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by neil-h (Post 11855272)
And this kids is one of my biggest bug bears with the public sector, there's almost always a compromise between cost and quality. Yet the public sector will always lean towards saving a few quid over a better quality product/service. :brickwall


But it said the ports are privately owned...so this has naff all to do with the public sector. :brickwall

hodgy0_2 05 July 2016 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 11855282)
:D :(


The mastermind is so confident, he's already gone home


Originally Posted by JTaylor (Post 11855287)
:lol1:

you shouldn't laugh at your own posts - but :lol1: too

trails 05 July 2016 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 11855249)
Not gonna argue with you, you seem to know more about it than those that work there.:Whatever_


Lordy you really believe a privately owned company HAS to accept the lowest tender...they may want to accept the lowest tender because they are a commercial entity and only there to make money maybe?!


Perchance do your buddies who supplied you with this information have a vested interest in moaning about potential job losses? ;)

trails 05 July 2016 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by hodgy0_2 (Post 11855281)
for anyone that is interested in the Brexit plan

full details here

http://thebrexitplan.com/


It's the way it moves as well...kinda wish they had added some sort of Boris\Farage noise to it :lol1:

dpb 05 July 2016 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by gary77 (Post 11855012)
Africa
Botswana
Cameroon
Ghana
Kenya
Lesotho
Malawi
Mauritius
Mozambique
Namibia
Nigeria
Rwanda
Seychelles
Sierra Leone
South Africa
Swaziland
Uganda
United Republic of Tanzania
Zambia
Asia
Bangladesh
Brunei Darussalam
India
Malaysia
Maldives
Pakistan
Singapore
Sri Lanka
Caribbean and Americas
Antigua and Barbuda
Bahamas, The
Barbados
Belize
Canada
Dominica
Grenada
Guyana
Jamaica
Saint Lucia
St Kitts and Nevis
St Vincent and The Grenadines
Trinidad and Tobago
Europe
Cyprus
Malta
United Kingdom
Pacific
Australia
Fiji
Kiribati
Nauru
New Zealand
Papua New Guinea
Samoa
Solomon Islands
Tonga
Tuvalu
Vanuatu

But yes australia new zealand and canada seem to me to be the most useful

But i dont think its an accurate comment to say we have lost trade with the european economic area. Im sure there will be trade negotiated . I cant imagine its in anybodies interest to not allow it .

Also.
The eu is crumbling away .they will be as worried for their future as anyone .

And if it all turns to **** i fancy moving to hawaii and claiming asylum.
Infact ill keep my lielow for the trip over


Were apparently doing deals with ex-commonwealth as well - right now chatham house

http://www.newsdzezimbabwe.co.uk/201...as-mugabe.html



His cio bodyguards taking pics of the protesters ....


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