Originally Posted by Matteeboy (Post 11575051)

An R8 is a lot quicker than the other two.

So your car apparently has the same bhp as my car yet appears to be 911 turbo quick. Okaaaay...

Originally Posted by john banks (Post 11575259)

I did say without launching it. Were you expecting 4.5 to 60 in a hardly featherweight 2.0 with a turbo big enough to do 320 HP without launching?

Consider that even a standard GTR will accelerate by about 10mph during a 0-60 in the 0.5 seconds that it takes a good Subaru driver to change gear.

Having tuned many 320 BHP Subarus, there is not a hope in hell for the Subaru, sorry.

Originally Posted by john banks (Post 11575259)

I did say without launching it. Were you expecting 4.5 to 60 in a hardly featherweight 2.0 with a turbo big enough to do 320 HP without launching?

Consider that even a standard GTR will accelerate by about 10mph during a 0-60 in the 0.5 seconds that it takes a good Subaru driver to change gear.

Having tuned many 320 BHP Subarus, there is not a hope in hell for the Subaru, sorry.

Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11575261)

Every wrx owner bangs on about owning some sort of hypercar slayer,its called proper car envy as the reality is they know their car is slow and crap.

Jesus he hasn't even got a proper wrx its an estate!

Originally Posted by Littleted (Post 11575249)

Not sure don't think hes said pricing yet, Involved new turbo and remap,
Note stock HP, very rare u get a factory A45 running MB quoted 360, there more often 375 upwards , MSLs GLA45 came from factory running 395BHP

Modifications:

Upgraded Turbo

ECU remap (torque is limited to 555Nm)

STOCK INTAKE AND STOCK EXHAUST !!!




- 98 RON / 93 AKI fuel

- ECE / EWG corrected engine results on SuperFlow dyno, same car, same dyno, same fuel

- WHP is the measured / not corrected value




STOCK: 328 AWHP / 374 hp at crank / 442 Nm engine torque

STAGE 1: 361 AWHP / 414 hp at crank / 514 Nm engine torque

STAGE 2: 393 AWHP / 460 hp at crank / 540 Nm engine torque


Link to Graphs

http://www.aclassclub.co.uk/forum/th...057_page2.html

Originally Posted by WRXrowdy (Post 11575302)

Ah, thought you meant without launch control.

Originally Posted by john banks (Post 11575328)

I did mean without launch control and it seems the Subaru owner is talking about punching it in 2nd gear. How did he know what gear the GTR was in and how much throttle he used anyway?

Originally Posted by john banks (Post 11575328)

I did mean without launch control and it seems the Subaru owner is talking about punching it in 2nd gear. How did he know what gear the GTR was in and how much throttle he used anyway?

Originally Posted by WRXrowdy (Post 11575339)

The figure banded about by people regarding WRX PPP is 4.8 seconds to sixty.
I get that bigger turbo = more lag, but the STI has bigger turbo and isn't that about the same with PPP fitted, with an extra gear change thrown in to the mix. So yes regarding a 320 brake WRX, I do believe 4.5 isn't in the realms of fantasy.

Originally Posted by john banks (Post 11575342)

Why are we talking about launched 0-60 times when the discussion is around a rolling start?

Do you think I'm wet behind the ears about Subarus or something?

Originally Posted by john banks (Post 11575181)

0-60 in 5 in a real 320 HP WRX without a launch is probably decent. This is 0.55g. GTR with a stage 1 map pulls similar g through 1st and 2nd at about a third throttle - ie not trying. I do it just driving out a junction normally every day I drive it. He wasn't trying.

Originally Posted by john banks (Post 11575352)

Can we talk about the rather more interesting A45 AMG rather than old sheds now please?

Originally Posted by Boyakasha (Post 11575363)

Hear hear, let's not feed the troll anymore

Originally Posted by WRXrowdy (Post 11575408)

Whoa hold on there bud. Banksy came out with a comment, to which I offered a differing opinion. He then said do I think it would do 4.5 to 60? Note the question mark, which I took to mean that it was a question! To which I gave my answer to, then was told by the person that asked the question why we were discussing it! :wonder:
And then get accused of troll posting! . . . . Really!

Originally Posted by scoobyJim2 (Post 11575269)

I don't know what car/power you have but unless you have been up against the same cars as me,in the same scenario,you don't know if you'd beat or stay with them.maybe you would too

Originally Posted by Matteeboy (Post 11575416)

M135i, 320bhp, 340lbs-ft.

A 545i is slower than an S5. And S5 is slower than an R8.

I've only had a proper "run" with a V8 Vantage and we were totally matched fairly tight, rural road). I'm pretty certain I'd match or beat an S5 but not a well driven R8.

Originally Posted by ditchmyster (Post 11575393)

Well just to add some balance from an old WRX shed owner, mine has PPP and I'm under no illusions about it's performance, my old 04 mapped WRX (paul Blamere who said he was amazed by it) was however one of those cars that defies all the stats, I was behind an M3 in Germany when we both gunned it expecting to be left yet at circa 160mph on my clock I was flashing him to move out of the way, this car would go off the clock at will, never taken my current one above about 130mph it's my daily and I don't want to break it, when I've finished my £3k 650bhp capable forged build I'll be posting my findings.;)

Originally Posted by ditchmyster (Post 11575393)

Well just to add some balance from an old WRX shed owner, mine has PPP and I'm under no illusions about it's performance, my old 04 mapped WRX (paul Blamere who said he was amazed by it) was however one of those cars that defies all the stats, I was behind an M3 in Germany when we both gunned it expecting to be left yet at circa 160mph on my clock I was flashing him to move out of the way, this car would go off the clock at will, never taken my current one above about 130mph it's my daily and I don't want to break it, when I've finished my £3k 650bhp capable forged build I'll be posting my findings.;)

Originally Posted by scoobyJim2 (Post 11575445)

I've pushed an e46 m3 in my 95wrx unmapped wagon uphill. I was on his bumper at 100mph but couldn't over take because it was two way traffic

Originally Posted by john banks (Post 11575458)

My E46 M3 was easily overtaken by a 340HP MY00 UK turbo once it could hang onto a tall gear, but the M3 had the edge at lower speeds off a roundabout even though it was RWD and he was flatshifting the Subaru.

Originally Posted by Boyakasha (Post 11575455)

Please stop posting, we're really not interested.

Back on topic please, this is an A45 thread so unles you've slayed one of these please get back over to the mycaristhebestestandfasterthanyour thread :)

Originally Posted by Boyakasha (Post 11575460)

John stop encouraging him :P

Originally Posted by Boyakasha (Post 11575455)

Please stop posting, we're really not interested.

Back on topic please, this is an A45 thread so unles you've slayed one of these please get back over to the mycaristhebestestandfasterthanyour thread :)

Originally Posted by john banks (Post 11575458)

My E46 M3 was easily overtaken by a 340HP MY00 UK turbo once it could hang onto a tall gear, but the M3 had the edge at lower speeds off a roundabout even though it was RWD and he was flatshifting the Subaru.

Originally Posted by WRXrowdy (Post 11575471)

That's what started him off.

Doubt you would achieve 175 jimbob, I've had 150 on the speedo (own private runway of course) and from memory pretty sure that was at 6000rpm. It was still pulling and felt like it had another 10 mile per hour left in it but at those speeds the speedo is going to way over read, so my guess is your speedo reading of 160 at 6000rpm was waaaay off.
Or your just on crack :D

P.s at that speedo reading there was no drama, misses rowdy was even applying some lippy in the passenger seat.

P.p.s sorry buyakasha ;)