after all problems i had with the scooby i decided to get shut of it and start again with another jap car, so on saturday i set off to epsom (surrey) from leeds (230 mile trip) and pick up this baby and all i can say is wow anyway i will stop talking now and show some pics












not the biggest spec but nice subtle mods
286bhp
blitz nur spec system
auzzie downpipe
hks ssq
various TRD bits
ect...

what you think?
cheers

 

My wife tried to race a Celica when she owned a Mazda MX3 ... she got thrashed & it turned out to be a GT4 Carlos Sainz thingymabob

TX.

 

they are quick cars mate but people underestimate them, i didnt think this would be as quick as my 284bhp scoob but this would destroy it, its an animal just pulls and pulls and its so smooth you dont even realize how fast it is. people say because they are heavy there no good but its a load of bull, mine is planted to the floor and just pulls like a train through every gear as you can probably tell im in love lol

 

Nice

Always came of worst in road tests against Sierra Cosworths and Integrales, due to their supposed excess weight, it always appeared to me that road testers of the time didn't 'get' them.

But from what I remember of the one I drove (a Carlos Sainz), it had a supremely well sorted chassis and covered ground astonishingly quickly*

* for the time

 

How would a 286bhp GT4 destroy a 284bhp Scoob?
Nice looking tool btw

 

Loverly example and nice sublte kit.

I've had a few GT4's including early Carlos Sainz and later ST205. All very nice, but most notable difference was the build quality. They are really well screwed together cars and doors close with a thud. Great compromise between jap and german.

But downside of all the build quality was the weight. They are heavy.Still handle and break, but they are heavy compared to a scoob, and in stock form non of the varients I had felt very quick. Quick enough, but really nothing special.

But a dawes on the carloz Sainz helped no end, and the ST205 was helped with a Apexi, Stage 2 turbo, forged engine, and running close to 400bhp. Was then a pretty nippy, but ended up cracking a block which was an end to my Celica days.

Great cars, and always turns my head when I see one on the road. Scoobs are just everywhere now, but rarely get to a see a GT4...

Enjoy, great cars.

 

Same engine as the MR2 Turbo is it not?
I had one of the those and it was on par with any classic scoob sti that I had.
Great engine, but it certainly won't destroy a scoob fella. May be in your head!

 

Nice, looks like its in good nick

 

And the MR2 turbo is allot lighter, and only 2wd tranmission losses.. Also nice cars.

 

looks very nice mate,

doesnt look like a particularly heavy car.

whats it over a stock uk classic say?

ive always liked the look of these cars, but personally wont stray from the scoobies, not for a while anyway lol

 

very nice pal,always liked the gt4,good luck with it

 

around 140kg bud celica is 1440kg and im sure the classics are 1300 (someone will correct me no doubt)


a classic scoob with a 5 speed box are only geared to a max 140 no more am i right? the celica will do 152 (on a private track obviously)

 

IIRC UK 5 speed will do 177 if there was enough power under the lid

 

Cracking cars and that one of yours look a real nice one...

 

So of the two are the same power and the HT4 weighs well over the average passenger weight if not a full grown man and a teenager how the hell does it spank your old impreza ?

Nice looking car though

 

Nice looking car but not quite nice enough to have me stray from the scooby fold IMO.

 

nice looking 4 mate i do miss my old one, mine was runing just over 300 and did have the edge on my scoob but not by very much.
but as said above i personly think they are a nicer place to be sat and better built than the scoob was.
glad your happy with it.
my old one

 

FPMSL my old 450hp classic maxed out at a true 159mph.

TX.

 

I did say IIRC - what is the answer?

 

do like these

 

That looks really sweet, i love em, wish i would have got one years ago, look better than a type r and i bet with that power it's not too shabby either.

How much did you pay, pm if you don't want to say, i'm after something else to put the mrs in, whats it like on fuel and what are the common faults to look out for, and do they need mapping.

I could be in for a month of sundays if i buy her one of those

 

I was only 8mph out

Clicky

Remap your car and raise the rev limit to 7350 and i'm right on the money

 

Until a corner came a lomg in the wet

 

Oh yes, bloody terrifying!

Wheelspin in 4th!

 

We've just had one in our workshop, it's immense! I am finding myself tempted

 

Lovely looking car-always get my attention when I see one.
How long before your back in a scoob though!

 

good one is gonna be 4-4500 can get them cheaper but like a scoob you gets what you pays for.
fuel well better than a scoob lol lol was getting around 28 ish bit more on a run but less if "playing".
fig 8's on the front suspension are a common part and expencive but not alot else apart from rot in bottom of doors.
map will allways help but with decat, full system inc downpipe and ebc set at 1.1 bar mine was runing just over 300 (255 standerd).
i did have high/low boost setting so i just used the 1.1 bar for playing i ran it like that for over 2yrs and tbh it never ever let me down or missed a beat.
one of the few cars i have owned that apart from serviceing never cost me a penny in breakdowns.
just to add they are deceptively fast as the twin entry system on the turbo means is a smooth power delivery so they don't feel fast when coming on boost untill you look at the speedo.
look about hard enough and you can find the proper wrc version got anti lag and a few other extras fitted as standerd ok its disconected but its all there a few wires and away you go.

 

very nice mate, i had one a year ago mine was running around 290bhp, it was faster but i feel my classic wagon handles a lot better than the gt4 did never felt confident in it, also its costly when the suspension goes wrong

 

sorry not been on here in a while just seen the recent posts

ditchmyster as b road blaster says its just fig 8s and banana arms, also rear diff mount and thats about it as most have said they are a cracking motor and i would recomend one to anyone.

thank you everyone for the nice comments, heres some better pics after a good clean.

 

Years ago i had just the 2.0 GT and that was a nice car-always liked the gt-4 and that one looks stunning.