as in other thread, im change the scoob for a sommit with lower running costs.

so went to 2 ford dealerships over the weekend, after a load of spiel from the salesman about wayne rooney buying one and them being a fantastic car, neither of them could get me a focus st of any sort until september.

I find this totally ridiculous, spose its not the sales guys fault, but how can there not be enough being made, how many 1000's of standard new focus' are stood on forecourts around the country!

what i found even more amazing is the guy wouldnt even let me have a test drive unless i sorted my own insurance.

the best they both could do would take my details and ring me if they recieve any cancellations, but can not guarentee spec or colour. but i had to agree a price 1st and thre would be absolutely NO discounts.

so i need other alternative, golf gti maybe...

 

Oh god... not another... have a quick search...

 

Buy a volvo S40 T5, there are plenty of them around

 

Lower running costs with an ST? you must be having a laugh. Have a look on the forums like FFOC and see what mpg they are getting! low 20's.

dipster

 

better than 17mpg and insurance costs over 1k a year...

cant get one anyway, so im considering others cars now...

 

Just to rub salt in the wound, there seems to be loads on the road around here in every colour under the sun.

Mind you there is a ford foundry (sp?) nearby so everyone gets Ford privilege discount.

 

The depreciation alone would be staggering. Golf GTI would be closest in ability.

 

depreciation is always a major factor when purchase cars of course.

maybe it would make more financial sense finding a 12 month old golf gti anyway..

 

No maybe about it. If you can find one you like.

 

My local dealer can get one in about 8 weeks.

They also order stock, 3 per month so I have been told, so if you are lucky you can get one within 4 weeks. I think they order 2x ST2s in blue and 1x ST3 in black every month.

Dave Demetriou @ Polar Ford 01925 645920 was the person I spoke too.

 

I believe there is a long waiting list for Golf GTI's, according to my mate who works for the local VW dealership

 

I'm sure the S40 is a T4 and not T5, they only put the T5 in the 70 series, and maybe the 60?

 

Maybe you should go and double check [T5 tech spec]

 

what about a newish ford focus RS? Heard good things about them and seem to be holding their value fairly well.

 

i barely keep my cars 12 months, so i really want sommit thats in warranty and will still be in warranty when i sell...

my mate has a RS, reckons its a little skittish...

 

I heard that VW dealerships can only sell one GTi a month?! My m8 works there and he got very minimal discount but had to wait as someone had bought one that month so they couldn`t sell another....what a ball ache!!

Chris

 

Six month wait for a Ford Focus! They can whistle

I'm biast but why not just have a spin in a new Octavia vRS.Cheaper than a Golf GTI.For those who dive in on depreciation arguments,you might be surprised

 

If it's anything like when I tried to buy a Puma when first it came out there's no Ford privilege discount availble for the first six months or so.

 

the octavia does not really appeal to me to be honest...

alfa 147 gta anyone?

very rare, looks stunning, sounds immense, usual alfa issues i suppose...

gamble?

 

Wasn't that the one which Clarkson reviewed on top gear - I saw a rerun the other day. 250 bhp through the front wheels with only the electronics keeping it on the road by backing off the power.

Insane....he still loved it though !

 

Correct about the ST not being on Ford's Priviledge scheme. A mate when to get one and was told that due to high demand throughout the country, they have been taken off until all customer orders have calmed down. Which basically means they are selling a lot of them. Nice...

 

Strange as my mate just ordered a blue ST2 using his dads ford discount and had no problems.

Simon

 

Simon

Depends on the level of discount you were offered. I know I can get 10% on our scheme (agency) but I know someone who worked for Land Rover was told no chance through the internal leasing scheme they offer. So a basic discount scheme is fine but the leasing option for employees etc that is normally open to almost all their cars is not on this one. Am sure there are 2 different schemes, but the fact they have stopped ones shows the high demand. A

 

Yeah IIRC he got 15% off. Maybe he got in before they stopped it, who knows.

Simon.

 

Ive owned both the MK5 GTI and the 2.5 ST

The GTI was a disaster, and will be my last ever VW ..... It was never out of the gargae and VW customer car is no exsitant.

The dealer was p1ss poor as well (EURO CANTERBURY)

The ST was a great well put together car, infact it didnt feel like a focus, miles better than my old Focus RS

BUT **Warning** never got over 19mpg out of the ST and that wasnt driving it hard.

between the two cars i would put up with the fuel of the FORD, cos the GTI was utter cr4p and unreliable. My brother also has a GTI MK5 and is having the same problems with his car, 3,000 miles and its been to the dealer 6 times for problems that come back not fixed.

 

Cancel the order for the ST on that basis alone!!

Sounds like the salesman had you pegged as a test pilot and was trying to fob you off mate. This months Test Drive mag managed to negotiate significant discounts on two or three ST's over the phone with a waiting time of weeks, not months!

Ns04

 

he dint seem that way, perfectly nice bloke and he saw my car so i'd be suprised if he thought that.

i actually bought that mag this weekend, thats what convinced me to go and have a look...

 

Actually since I saw one in the flesh I'm quite taken by the new megan 225. Worth a look and being renault sport it should drive well too.

Dave

 

6 months waiting list for new Golf GTI's up here, and about 4 yrs worth of orders for new R32's as well!

 

I went to order an st3 today, Don't listen to them when they tell you theres no discounts been offered £1200 off list.
Not going to bother now with the st having to wait till october to get one, Going to go and put a deposit on a new civic type r for december.