RenaultSport Clio 197 released
28 February 2006, 04:13 PM
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RenaultSport Clio 197 released
http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/roadcars/clio197/
197bhp and not ps, which could get confusing, seen as though the others are rated in ps!
Performance a bit disappointing, especially when you compare to the 172 Cup and even the 182.
197bhp and not ps, which could get confusing, seen as though the others are rated in ps!
Performance a bit disappointing, especially when you compare to the 172 Cup and even the 182.
28 February 2006, 04:38 PM
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Unless you look at the figs..... 
Bugeye wrx 157bhp per tonne
Blobeye Wrx 160bhp per tonne
Clio 197 161bhp per tonne
I think it looks pretty good (didn`t like the pics of the mk2 172 but liked it in the flesh/metal) with some nice touches like the vents and diffuser but I can`t see it being the fun point and squirt car like the 172/182....and I would imagine my Cup would hammer one.
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Bugeye wrx 157bhp per tonne
Blobeye Wrx 160bhp per tonne
Clio 197 161bhp per tonne
I think it looks pretty good (didn`t like the pics of the mk2 172 but liked it in the flesh/metal) with some nice touches like the vents and diffuser but I can`t see it being the fun point and squirt car like the 172/182....and I would imagine my Cup would hammer one.
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28 February 2006, 04:48 PM
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Ooops sorry forgot i meant a WRX PPP = 190.10 per ton
Not that old chestnut again
Seriously though my is it car manufacturers seem to make heavier cars - i'm sure they dont need to The Clio Cup is possibly the last of the truly great hot hatches - power to weight is where its at, did someone at Renault not look at those figures and say 'hold on a minute chaps, we've got a winning fornula here with this Power to weight malarkey - why change it'
FFS when will they learn
Not that old chestnut again
Seriously though my is it car manufacturers seem to make heavier cars - i'm sure they dont need to The Clio Cup is possibly the last of the truly great hot hatches - power to weight is where its at, did someone at Renault not look at those figures and say 'hold on a minute chaps, we've got a winning fornula here with this Power to weight malarkey - why change it'
FFS when will they learn
28 February 2006, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
Seriously though my is it car manufacturers seem to make heavier cars - i'm sure they dont need to The Clio Cup is possibly the last of the truly great hot hatches - power to weight is where its at, did someone at Renault not look at those figures and say 'hold on a minute chaps, we've got a winning fornula here with this Power to weight malarkey - why change it'
FFS when will they learn
FFS when will they learn
Smart comment above about knocking off the kilos for the Cup.
28 February 2006, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
Ooops sorry forgot i meant a WRX PPP = 190.10 per ton
Not that old chestnut again
Seriously though my is it car manufacturers seem to make heavier cars - i'm sure they dont need to The Clio Cup is possibly the last of the truly great hot hatches - power to weight is where its at, did someone at Renault not look at those figures and say 'hold on a minute chaps, we've got a winning fornula here with this Power to weight malarkey - why change it'
FFS when will they learn
Not that old chestnut again
Seriously though my is it car manufacturers seem to make heavier cars - i'm sure they dont need to The Clio Cup is possibly the last of the truly great hot hatches - power to weight is where its at, did someone at Renault not look at those figures and say 'hold on a minute chaps, we've got a winning fornula here with this Power to weight malarkey - why change it'
FFS when will they learn
Chris
28 February 2006, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by chris n`nic
Exactly m8...they have lost sight now and seem to be aiming for a different market....after they released the 172 Cup and they sold like hotcakes you`d have thought that they would do something similar (but there is time yet lol)
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Looking at the new version i'd say R.i.p. hot hatch
28 February 2006, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 16vmarc
197bhp and not ps, which could get confusing, seen as though the others are rated in ps!
Performance a bit disappointing, especially when you compare to the 172 Cup and even the 182.
28 February 2006, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
Ooops sorry forgot i meant a WRX PPP = 190.10 per ton
Not that old chestnut again
Seriously though my is it car manufacturers seem to make heavier cars - i'm sure they dont need to The Clio Cup is possibly the last of the truly great hot hatches - power to weight is where its at, did someone at Renault not look at those figures and say 'hold on a minute chaps, we've got a winning fornula here with this Power to weight malarkey - why change it'
FFS when will they learn
Not that old chestnut again
Seriously though my is it car manufacturers seem to make heavier cars - i'm sure they dont need to The Clio Cup is possibly the last of the truly great hot hatches - power to weight is where its at, did someone at Renault not look at those figures and say 'hold on a minute chaps, we've got a winning fornula here with this Power to weight malarkey - why change it'
FFS when will they learn
This car is quite a bit bigger too and every cars getting bigger but also faster than before.
Only driving enthusiats care that it weighs a extra 200kg.
Plus im sure whn they make a cup model and strip it out it will lose loads of weight.
28 February 2006, 06:17 PM
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Oh well thats mucked that car up then ........ Why oh why when you have a winning formula of a lightweight hot hatch which is cleaning up in the marketplace would you give it a small power hike yet a big fat amount of weight?........Probably be a good car, just not the great car it is now IMHO
28 February 2006, 06:33 PM
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of course they have made it so lardy so they can later release a cup model.
Still quoting 0-62 in 6.9, which I dont think is too bad. Looks alright IMO, will be good to see what they do for the Cup version.
Cheers,
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28 February 2006, 07:25 PM
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Jesus, will you listen to yourselves, its still a 1200 kilo car with 190 ish bhp, there are plenty of icons with less power to weight than that, it will still be a quick car, I am sure it will have improved in most areas compared to the old one, it was hardly going to get lighter was it.
How quick do you need a hot hatch to be to have fun ?
Golf GTI MK2 was 900 ish kilos and only had 112 bhp, still great fun though.
How quick do you need a hot hatch to be to have fun ?
Golf GTI MK2 was 900 ish kilos and only had 112 bhp, still great fun though.
28 February 2006, 08:35 PM
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I was waiting ages for the the new 2.0 16v Clio to come out, to get the wife one so I could use her existing car for the train station car park.
Unfortunately, my current train station car got nicked last month and I ended up getting a year old 182 with Cup bits.
Such is sods law
Did save me some money though
Unfortunately, my current train station car got nicked last month and I ended up getting a year old 182 with Cup bits.
Such is sods law
Did save me some money though
28 February 2006, 10:23 PM
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Comes with nice brakes though, 312mm at the front with 4 pot brembos and 300mm at the back, much better brakes than the new Focus ST and that weighs 100Kg more than the clio nd has more power!!
Do any other hatches of this size come with brembo 4 pots??
Cant think of any, think it was only the next car size up, e.g Focus RS and LCR
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Do any other hatches of this size come with brembo 4 pots??
Cant think of any, think it was only the next car size up, e.g Focus RS and LCR
Mark
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Of course m8....and Scoobys are only driven by burberry capped chavs! 
I`d like a Cup version to be in a different colour...white would do me!
Chris
I`d like a Cup version to be in a different colour...white would do me!
Chris