*Choices Again* C4S / TT / CSL
08 August 2005, 01:45 PM
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*Choices Again* C4S / TT / CSL
Well went to Porche centre today had a look round the cars.
Have got it down to three choices.
Any opinions would be good. Bit of background... I enjoy driving on track however I'm not the greatest driver in the world, and I normally drive round safely, because of my age I can't afford to have another accident so I don't tend to give it my all on track. I love driving around Europe, and love German roads. I like noise, don't mind uncomfy seats and don't car about mpg. I also like to drive Europe in winter time, which means 4wd would be a bonus as I've been in snow before in an M3 and it was aweful! In the scoob is was fine, even on summer tyres.
So, my choices.
Option 1
911 TT
Coupe, 2002, on a 52 plate. Tiptronic. 33,000 miles, black with grey leather. All the toys, FSH, 1 owner. Drove it, lovely place to be, however the noise isn't there. It's like being in an M3 but with crazy amounts of power.
Option 2
911 C4S
Coupe, 2004, on a 04 plate. Tiptronic. 18,000 miles, blue with black leather. Sports Exhausts, all the toys, not sure about the colour but noise is lovely. But, is it enough power?
Option 3
M3 CSL
Keep the CSL? it's currently at 9.200 miles, over 10,000 some people shy away. Lovely noise, lovely power.
I spend more time on motorways than I do on track, so gut feeling is to go for the TT, but it really is a tricky one. C4S is newer, nicer cabin feel, lovely sound. But then I'd probably just want a TT!
Any advice gratefully received. Option 4 is to my a fiesta, but life is too short!
Have got it down to three choices.
Any opinions would be good. Bit of background... I enjoy driving on track however I'm not the greatest driver in the world, and I normally drive round safely, because of my age I can't afford to have another accident so I don't tend to give it my all on track. I love driving around Europe, and love German roads. I like noise, don't mind uncomfy seats and don't car about mpg. I also like to drive Europe in winter time, which means 4wd would be a bonus as I've been in snow before in an M3 and it was aweful! In the scoob is was fine, even on summer tyres.
So, my choices.
Option 1
911 TT
Coupe, 2002, on a 52 plate. Tiptronic. 33,000 miles, black with grey leather. All the toys, FSH, 1 owner. Drove it, lovely place to be, however the noise isn't there. It's like being in an M3 but with crazy amounts of power.
Option 2
911 C4S
Coupe, 2004, on a 04 plate. Tiptronic. 18,000 miles, blue with black leather. Sports Exhausts, all the toys, not sure about the colour but noise is lovely. But, is it enough power?
Option 3
M3 CSL
Keep the CSL? it's currently at 9.200 miles, over 10,000 some people shy away. Lovely noise, lovely power.
I spend more time on motorways than I do on track, so gut feeling is to go for the TT, but it really is a tricky one. C4S is newer, nicer cabin feel, lovely sound. But then I'd probably just want a TT!
Any advice gratefully received. Option 4 is to my a fiesta, but life is too short!
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Well luckily I came into a few quid with property prices, I love cars and just get itchy.
Cman knows how I feel
For track use I'd keep the CSL, but ironically I'd probably be faster in a 205 purely because of the fact I'm so damn worried about spanking the CSL
Cman knows how I feel
For track use I'd keep the CSL, but ironically I'd probably be faster in a 205 purely because of the fact I'm so damn worried about spanking the CSL
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Dont get the c4s, the new boxster s is faster and the old boxster is not far off!
For me it would have to be the 996 turbo.
I have had my Porsche 986 for a year and out of all the Porsches I have driven the 996 turbo is the only one I would swap for the 986 at the moment.
edit cos I cant count..
For me it would have to be the 996 turbo.
I have had my Porsche 986 for a year and out of all the Porsches I have driven the 996 turbo is the only one I would swap for the 986 at the moment.
edit cos I cant count..
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08 August 2005, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam M
I keep seeing the word tiptronic!
how can you even consider it?
how can you even consider it?
I'm getting old now 
Just want to listen to classical and smoke a pipe
It wasn't to bad really, but SMG is much much better. But for motorway not really a problem. I'm not a track day god like you guys
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I spoke to Posche, they are willing to put on a differant back box on the turbo if I went for it, not sure how much differance that would make 
Keeping CSL is the wise man's choice though...
Keeping CSL is the wise man's choice though...
08 August 2005, 02:22 PM
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911 turbo just doesn't make the beautiful noises that the N/A does, shame. Keep the CSL, get some 'sensible' tyres for winter, and stick a block of wood under the accelerator, voila! Traction control in winter!
Cman (i preferred the drive of my C4S to my 987'S', though the boxster was excellent the C4S was excellenter )
Cman (i preferred the drive of my C4S to my 987'S', though the boxster was excellent the C4S was excellenter
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Originally Posted by Nevetas
I spoke to Posche, they are willing to put on a differant back box on the turbo if I went for it, not sure how much differance that would make
Keeping CSL is the wise man's choice though...
Keeping CSL is the wise man's choice though...
08 August 2005, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Old_Fart
911 turbo just doesn't make the beautiful noises that the N/A does, shame. Keep the CSL, get some 'sensible' tyres for winter, and stick a block of wood under the accelerator, voila! Traction control in winter!
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Tiptronic is the way to go if you do a lot of in-town driving, but out on the open road you'll probably miss the manual. I used to change from 6th to 4th in my manual when the motorway traffic opened up, now I find 5th is a much better choice and it doesn't feel like I'm thrashing it at all. You may find that you'll start changing down using the tip buttons when approaching roundabouts and junctions, it means you'll feel a little more involved - and you'll save the brakes!
The manual is also very easy to drive around town, first gear will take you to 40mph, but when moving off you'd swear it was geared much lower.
The manual is also very easy to drive around town, first gear will take you to 40mph, but when moving off you'd swear it was geared much lower.
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Originally Posted by billythekid
Dont get the c4s, the new boxster s is faster and the old boxster is not far off!
For me it would have to be the 997 turbo.
I have had my Porsche 986 for a year and out of all the Porsches I have driven the 997 turbo is the only one I would swap for the 986 at the moment.
For me it would have to be the 997 turbo.
I have had my Porsche 986 for a year and out of all the Porsches I have driven the 997 turbo is the only one I would swap for the 986 at the moment.
p.s. do not buy a boxster...they are totally gay!
08 August 2005, 03:39 PM
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A mate of mine has got a C4 (not sure if it is the S or not) and after being in your CSL I would personally keep the BMW.
Although the turbo may be a different story!
What a lovely position to be in, being able to have the choice of such great cars!
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Oops, yes I hate the numbers - 996 not 997. The 997 is not due till next year,,
So the Boxster is gay is it..... I used to think the same thing but once I had a drive in it I decided to get one. I keep a Caterham SLR in the garage for my hetrosexual driving.
So the Boxster is gay is it..... I used to think the same thing but once I had a drive in it I decided to get one. I keep a Caterham SLR in the garage for my hetrosexual driving.
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Oh dear Oh dear Oh dear.
Called the dealer back to say probably going to keep the CSL, and he got insperation and started hitting me with new numbers!! Shocking!
Looks like I now own a 911 TT
Taking it to Germany next week, so full report when I get back.
Cheers for the advice guys, I'm a sucker for numbers
Called the dealer back to say probably going to keep the CSL, and he got insperation and started hitting me with new numbers!! Shocking!
Looks like I now own a 911 TT
Taking it to Germany next week, so full report when I get back.
Cheers for the advice guys, I'm a sucker for numbers
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Originally Posted by SirFozzalot
A mate of mine has got a C4 (not sure if it is the S or not) and after being in your CSL I would personally keep the BMW.
Although the turbo may be a different story!
What a lovely position to be in, being able to have the choice of such great cars!
However job done, I'm now a 911TT Owner!
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Originally Posted by Nevetas
Oh dear Oh dear Oh dear.
Called the dealer back to say probably going to keep the CSL, and he got insperation and started hitting me with new numbers!! Shocking!
Looks like I now own a 911 TT
Taking it to Germany next week, so full report when I get back.
Cheers for the advice guys, I'm a sucker for numbers
Called the dealer back to say probably going to keep the CSL, and he got insperation and started hitting me with new numbers!! Shocking!
Looks like I now own a 911 TT
Taking it to Germany next week, so full report when I get back.
Cheers for the advice guys, I'm a sucker for numbers
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lol indeed, he came back with some rather tasty figures, and I could just feel the purchase being made, so slapped down the old mastercard!
You only live once and all that, thats what I keep telling myself anyway!
You only live once and all that, thats what I keep telling myself anyway!
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Congratulations! I suppose it would be rude to ask how much?
You'll love it - can sit at 120 all day long with lots more to go. Something you wouldn't want to do in your old STi
You'll love it - can sit at 120 all day long with lots more to go. Something you wouldn't want to do in your old STi
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Originally Posted by billythekid
Oops, yes I hate the numbers - 996 not 997. The 997 is not due till next year,,
So the Boxster is gay is it..... I used to think the same thing but once I had a drive in it I decided to get one. I keep a Caterham SLR in the garage for my hetrosexual driving.
So the Boxster is gay is it..... I used to think the same thing but once I had a drive in it I decided to get one. I keep a Caterham SLR in the garage for my hetrosexual driving.
